boojam Posted January 25, 2015 Share Posted January 25, 2015 I don't know why you keep bringing up this "innovation" concept as if for a battle scene to be good or realistic it needs to be done in a completely groundbreaking way that hasn't been done before. That's not true. Having scenes that make absolutely no logical sense is gonna hurt the quality of your product. And I don't know why you're talking about the Hobbit films but I think they are complete crap. As another poster said they are also full of nonsensical things and completely unrealistic battle scenes. I don't want anything nonsensical , doesn't have to be unrealistic to be imaginative. I like having my expectations undercut and to be surprised. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Bauer 24 Posted January 25, 2015 Share Posted January 25, 2015 I just wish they had made it 10 minutes longer so it could have ended with the chargeWhy? It was better as the episode 10 opener. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Carson Posted January 25, 2015 Share Posted January 25, 2015 Why? It was better as the episode 10 opener. Because the end of the battle in the book is that charge and it worked so well. You can't say it was better as the opener if you don't know how it would have been if it was at the end of 9. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Reckoner Posted January 25, 2015 Share Posted January 25, 2015 The Battle of Five Armies had waves of CGI crashing into waves of CGI...and that's when I started losing my focus and looking at my watch. The battles here had actual people fighting. That alone puts them above most of the battles you tend to see in big budget Hollywood fantasy/SF if we're talking stuff like The Avengers etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ruin Posted January 25, 2015 Share Posted January 25, 2015 Yeah, I would've enjoyed Stannis. Stannis! STANNIS! at the end of the episode. With that said, I had a great time watching this episode. Wasn't a real fan of Ollie and his storyline, and I thought it might've been better to not show who fired the arrow. That nod he gave to Jon was silly, and sorta ruined the moment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starks of Winter Posted January 25, 2015 Share Posted January 25, 2015 I thought it was perfect, might watch it again tonight :cool4: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hiram McDrogon Posted January 25, 2015 Share Posted January 25, 2015 Yeah, I would've enjoyed Stannis. Stannis! STANNIS! at the end of the episode. I think I've posted this before elsewhere on the forum, but watching the Castle Black episode was quite similar to the first time I saw The Two Towers - I didn't enjoy the first viewing because the climax that I expected wasn't there. No Stannis; no Shelob. And that made me angry and very disappointed! NERD RAGE!!!! HOW COULD THEY RUIN THE STORY THIS WAY?!?!?! NERD SMASH oh f*ck my hand hurts I'd better not do that again... Then I watched them again and thought, oh, actually, it makes a lot of sense to do it that way. OK. I like it now. If Stannis had come in at the end of Episode 9, the emphasis would have been on Stannis saving them at the last minute - but as it was, the emphasis was instead on the Night's Watch living to fight another day. I think that's the right emphasis. In both cases, I think I'd have enjoyed the first viewing far more if someone had "spoiled" the fact that the story didn't get as far as I was expecting. (Going the other way: I did know at what point The Hobbit II ended, and I'm glad I did, because if I hadn't, that ending would have had me leaving the theatre in a bad mood.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
storm.131 Posted January 26, 2015 Share Posted January 26, 2015 As someone who likes GOT for the characters and drama, I'm glad they confined the Castle Black battle to one episode. It makes it easy to avoid when I watch the season again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Ryon Stark Posted January 28, 2015 Share Posted January 28, 2015 I thought Watchers on the Wall was pretty much perfect. Grenn got the most badass moment in Season 5. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkSansa Posted January 28, 2015 Share Posted January 28, 2015 A bunch of tv show only people didnt seem to like it. One person who does online reviews even called it "terrible" and she is a khaleesi/daenerys/badass fan and is part of the sansa and samwell are stupid camp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Bauer 24 Posted January 28, 2015 Share Posted January 28, 2015 A bunch of tv show only people didnt seem to like it. One person who does online reviews even called it "terrible" and she is a khaleesi/daenerys/badass fan and is part of the sansa and samwell are stupid camp.Every single tv person i talked to thought it was brilliant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stannisismyking Posted January 31, 2015 Share Posted January 31, 2015 As someone who likes GOT for the characters and drama, I'm glad they confined the Castle Black battle to one episode. It makes it easy to avoid when I watch the season again. :lmao: I was really only looking forward to this episode for STANNIS and while I completely see their logic for not going there and letting the NW have their moment, I'll be forever annoyed and it's the only episode I never even bothered to download after watching. Blackwater was much more interesting for me but mainly because I was more invested in the characters involved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cz99 Posted January 31, 2015 Share Posted January 31, 2015 It was fantastic. Really like that if focused on all the other Night's Watch members and not Jon Snow himself. Also made me like Alliser Thorne. He was a boss. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trevelyan Posted January 31, 2015 Share Posted January 31, 2015 It was okay, I guess. I can't say I was blown away by it, but I was fairly entertained. Gotta say though, Ygritte's death did nothing for me. And out of all the "special, ninth episodes", this was the weakest one by far, in my opinion. The fact that they only have a limited budget on the show was very apparent during this episode. The battle felt "smaller" than it should have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Bauer 24 Posted January 31, 2015 Share Posted January 31, 2015 It was okay, I guess. I can't say I was blown away by it, but I was fairly entertained. Gotta say though, Ygritte's death did nothing for me. And out of all the "special, ninth episodes", this was the weakest one by far, in my opinion. The fact that they only have a limited budget on the show was very apparent during this episode. The battle felt "smaller" than it should have.Not sure if serious. They probably over spent if anything. The IMAX showing is breathtaking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trevelyan Posted January 31, 2015 Share Posted January 31, 2015 Not sure if serious. They probably over spent if anything. The IMAX showing is breathtaking. Have you read the books? How many mammoths were there? One or two? And how many giants? Two. It definitely felt smaller than it could have, if they had a bigger budget. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Bauer 24 Posted January 31, 2015 Share Posted January 31, 2015 Have you read the books? How many mammoths were there? One or two? And how many giants? Two. It definitely felt smaller than it could have, if they had a bigger budget.It's a TV show. You could say "if they had a bigger budget" for every show in existence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trevelyan Posted January 31, 2015 Share Posted January 31, 2015 It's a TV show. You could say "if they had a bigger budget" for every show in existence. Sure. But that doesn't mean that I'm not allowed to criticize or express my disappointment of this particular battle scene. It didn't quite live up to my expectations, but it certainly wasn't bad. It was just kinda "meh" - but only in my opinion of course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaenaOfMyr Posted February 2, 2015 Share Posted February 2, 2015 It was the second biggest mistake of the season (first being Tyrion-Tysha-Shae). They should have kept the 2 battles separate like in the book. The Craster's Keep storyline was put in to give Jon something to do mid-season, when they could have simply kept the first Wall battle in mid-season to fill that role (yeah, Bran would have not had something to do, but I figure they could have found something). It had the effect of giving us a very weak season for Ygritte, and pushed back Jon's storyline such that he wasn't able to finish his book 3 storyline like everyone else was. I don't complain much about the show, but this is one of them for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragon in the North Posted February 2, 2015 Share Posted February 2, 2015 It was the second biggest mistake of the season (first being Tyrion-Tysha-Shae). They should have kept the 2 battles separate like in the book. The Craster's Keep storyline was put in to give Jon something to do mid-season, when they could have simply kept the first Wall battle in mid-season to fill that role (yeah, Bran would have not had something to do, but I figure they could have found something). It had the effect of giving us a very weak season for Ygritte, and pushed back Jon's storyline such that he wasn't able to finish his book 3 storyline like everyone else was. I don't complain much about the show, but this is one of them for me. I felt like the battle made more strategic sense in the show. Having the wildings attack the Wall separately, as in the books, was pretty stupid. It would be much more efficient to attack the Wall simultaneously, dividing up the Night's Watch forces, and have them fight the battle on two fronts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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