Lost Melnibonean Posted January 31, 2015 Author Share Posted January 31, 2015 I appreciate that but I'm asking whether that might have happened to a specific group of Silent Sisters.I don't thinkbot can be ruled out bit in the absence of a specific hint I think we have to assume the George was conveying the wickedness of the Brave Companions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shuvuuia Posted February 1, 2015 Share Posted February 1, 2015 nothing significant, but i like this (unintentional?) call back: The victor was the red priest, Thoros of Myr<...> He had won melees before; the fire sword frightened the mounts of the other riders, and nothing frightened Thoros. (Thoros) “Then why show the world their face? Savage, snarling, twisted . . . is that who you would be, Lem?”(Lem) “The sight of it will make my foes afraid.”(Thoros) “The sight of it makes me afraid.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isobel Harper Posted February 1, 2015 Share Posted February 1, 2015 The Tullys would have Valyrian blood through House Qoherys. If Edmyn Tully and Qoherys Girl are the ancestors of the current Tullys, and their line hadn't ended. Tully could have potentially had additional Valyrian blood if Jaeherys II (grandfather of Daenerys) had married his betrothed, Celia Tully. He chose to reject this betrothal set up by his father in favor of marrying for love to Betha Blackwood his sister Shaena. Also, if Jaeherys had not broken this betrothal, Tully's allegiance during Robert's Rebellion could've been quite different. ETA: Oops! Wrong wife. ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhaenys_Targaryen Posted February 1, 2015 Share Posted February 1, 2015 Tully could have potentially had additional Valyrian blood if Jaeherys II (grandfather of Daenerys) had married his betrothed, Celia Tully. He chose to reject this betrothal set up by his father in favor of marrying for love to Betha Blackwood. Also, if Jaeherys had not broken this betrothal, Tully's allegiance during Robert's Rebellion could've been quite different.Betha Blackwood was Jaehaerys' mother ;) Jaehaerys married his sister, Shaera, for love.Correct on the rebellion thing, but at the same time, such a marriage isn't everything, as we've seen with House Baratheon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnowCastle Posted February 1, 2015 Share Posted February 1, 2015 i thought that a pale horse was a traditional sign of disease? like one of the four horsemen The phrase "Death rides a pale horse" comes from the book of Revelation and describes one of the four horseman of the Apocalypse. Interestingly the rider is supposed to signify conquest, not necessarily disease. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poppa Chase Posted February 1, 2015 Share Posted February 1, 2015 Tywin learned what allowing powerful rivals to live does to the realm from participating in the war of nine penny kings. Had the Blackfyres been exterminated they wouldn't have caused the realm so much chaos. Thus once he took over, he eliminated all opposition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ser Charles of Rosehaven Posted February 1, 2015 Share Posted February 1, 2015 "The queen had dressed him in some of the kings old clothes, it appeared. Scrubbed and Groomed, clas in green velvets and an ermine half-cape," Jon , ADWD. Those sound like Renly's clothes to me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonCon's Red Beard Posted February 2, 2015 Share Posted February 2, 2015 "Are you Joffrey's father?""You would never ask unless you knew the answer.""I want it from your own lips."He shrugged. "Joffrey is mine. As are the rest of Cersei's brood, I suppose." He supposes? :lol: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonCon's Red Beard Posted February 2, 2015 Share Posted February 2, 2015 to lazy to edit post above... just noticed that during the chapter when he's talking with Cat, he also starts to talk about Aerys. It's mostly due to the wine. Later, when he tells Brienne how/why he killed the King, he's not drunk but he's a bit feverish. It's like he has been DYING to tell someone, and for some reason, he has trusted only women into telling his darkest secret. He hasn't told Cersei, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roddy Darwin Posted February 2, 2015 Share Posted February 2, 2015 to lazy to edit post above... just noticed that during the chapter when he's talking with Cat, he also starts to talk about Aerys. It's mostly due to the wine. Later, when he tells Brienne how/why he killed the King, he's not drunk but he's a bit feverish. It's like he has been DYING to tell someone, and for some reason, he has trusted only women into telling his darkest secret. He hasn't told Cersei, though.That's one of the reasons I like the poor bastard so much. There's so much bitterness when he tells Brienne why he never told anybody too, like "do you really think self-righteous lord Stark would have even listened?"I would call it his brighest secret though. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonCon's Red Beard Posted February 2, 2015 Share Posted February 2, 2015 That's one of the reasons I like the poor bastard so much. There's so much bitterness when he tells Brienne why he never told anybody too, like "do you really think self-righteous lord Stark would have even listened?"I would call it his brighest secret though. :) Yep. I'm making a small Jaime re-read and it's amazing all the things that he does that contradict what he says aloud. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isobel Harper Posted February 2, 2015 Share Posted February 2, 2015 Tyrion's "name" in the beginning of ADwD is Yollo. "You only live, like, once." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roddy Darwin Posted February 2, 2015 Share Posted February 2, 2015 Tyrion's "name" in the beginning of ADwD is Yollo. "You only live, like, once."Hahaha :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lost Melnibonean Posted February 3, 2015 Author Share Posted February 3, 2015 I thought this was noteworthy given Bloodraven's association with white mist... Tormund turned back. "You know nothing. You killed a dead man, aye, I heard. Mance killed a hundred. A man can fight the dead, but when their masters come, when the white mists rise up how do you fight a mist, crow? Shadows with teeth air so cold it hurts to breathe, like a knife inside your chest you do not know, you cannot know can your sword cut cold?" Jon XII, Dance Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ser Leftwich Posted February 3, 2015 Share Posted February 3, 2015 Roose Bolton's name is a ruse, that he was going to trick Robb was staring at us the whole time. Ruse Bolton! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coldtoes Posted February 3, 2015 Share Posted February 3, 2015 Did anyone get that Maggy the Frog was actually a maegi before it was revealed by Qyburn? I sure didn't Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhaenys_Targaryen Posted February 3, 2015 Share Posted February 3, 2015 Did anyone get that Maggy the Frog was actually a maegi before it was revealed by Qyburn? I sure didn't Kevan Lannister stated it in Storm ;) Gawen is a good man, but his wife is Sybell Spicer. He should never have wed her. The Westerlings always did have more honor than sense. Lady Sybell’s grandfather was a trader in saffron and pepper, almost as lowborn as that smuggler Stannis keeps. And the grandmother was some woman he’d brought back from the east. A frightening old crone, supposed to be a priestess. Maegi, they called her. No one could pronounce her real name. Half of Lannisport used to go to her for cures and love potions and the like.” He shrugged. “She’s long dead, to be sure. And Jeyne seemed a sweet child, I’ll grant you, though I only saw her once. But with such doubtful blood...” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coldtoes Posted February 3, 2015 Share Posted February 3, 2015 Crap you're right I never made that connection before. I really need to read again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ser Leftwich Posted February 3, 2015 Share Posted February 3, 2015 No one else is named Barristan in the books. This guy has been the most famous knight in all the land for 40+ years and no one has named a son after him?!?!!!? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reynestorm Posted February 3, 2015 Share Posted February 3, 2015 Tywin, ironically, Tylost. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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