Bluetiger Posted February 12, 2015 Share Posted February 12, 2015 Maybe he buried it on Dragonstone. I don't see Stannis profanating body of anyone ( and of course his kin) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Humble Maester Posted February 12, 2015 Share Posted February 12, 2015 Thanks. But I still wander about Stannis and Rhaella's corpse... As far as I know we have no idea. I would assume that she also was cremated and interred with rest of her family. I don't really see Stannis as the kind of man to spite a dead woman's body. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluetiger Posted February 12, 2015 Share Posted February 12, 2015 As far as I know we have no idea. I would assume that she also was cremated and interred with rest of her family. I don't really see Stannis as the kind of man to spite a dead woman's body. In show he and Selyse have their own children in jars... but it's just show. The book's Stannis would never do that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Humble Maester Posted February 12, 2015 Share Posted February 12, 2015 In show he and Selyse have their own children in jars... but it's just show. The book's Stannis would never do that. I think in-show that's mostly just Selyse being f*cked in the head. Don't think collecting fetuses would be Stannis' hobby even in that universe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhaenys_Targaryen Posted February 12, 2015 Author Share Posted February 12, 2015 Do we know what Robert has done with bodies of Rhaegar, Aerys, Rhaegar's children, Elia and what Stannis has done with Rhaella's ?As said by others, Rhaegar was cremated.I once asked Ran about Elia and the children, and he didn't knew. He didn't know if GRRM had thought of anything specific regarding that topic either.Cremation sounds logical, though.Same for Rhaella. She might have already been cremated before Stannis arrived, even. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wolves Posted February 12, 2015 Share Posted February 12, 2015 As said by others, Rhaegar was cremated.I once asked Ran about Elia and the children, and he didn't knew. He didn't know if GRRM had thought of anything specific regarding that topic either.Cremation sounds logical, though.Same for Rhaella. She might have already been cremated before Stannis arrived, even.Didn't Jon Arryn go to Dorne? Maybe he took Elia's body back and Aegon and Rhaenys was cremated also. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluetiger Posted February 12, 2015 Share Posted February 12, 2015 Didn't Jon Arryn go to Dorne? Maybe he took Elia's body back and Aegon and Rhaenys was cremated also. That's what I think happend. Here is thread for discussing it http://asoiaf.westeros.org/index.php/topic/124753-elia-martel/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhaenys_Targaryen Posted February 12, 2015 Author Share Posted February 12, 2015 Didn't Jon Arryn go to Dorne? Maybe he took Elia's body back and Aegon and Rhaenys was cremated also.He did, but all the books mention is that he took Lewyns body with him, nothing about Elia or the kids....He might have taken their ashes. Considering what happened to their bodies, I doubt Doran and Oberyn would have seen those Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
addicted to snow Posted February 13, 2015 Share Posted February 13, 2015 The comet did not appear on the night of Neds death, did it? I believe it was first seen immediately following Ned's Death... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon Weirgaryen Posted February 13, 2015 Share Posted February 13, 2015 Heh, fair enough. I'm not one of those people who questions everything we're told. I think it's clear he at least doesn't have his balls. Somebody would have noticed if he wasn't actually a eunuch. Who, when? I would likely have dropped that suspicion along with a few others if GRRM had not been asked that question over the decades, too. I think the answer was along the lines of: Only Varys knows. iirc Still startled by the notion that Varys might be a trained FM, he told us he was a mummer by trade, but so is Mercy. It had never ocurred to me. If this is a small question: are there any leads to Varys himself being a trained killer (on top of being a trained mummer and magician)? How did he become a master of whisperers?I mean, not in office, we know that, but how did he build up his reputation to be eligible for office?Somone out here know half a dozen of threads on the tracks of this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhaenys_Targaryen Posted February 13, 2015 Author Share Posted February 13, 2015 I believe it was first seen immediately following Ned's Death... We first see the comet when news of Neds death arrives in the north. By then, Ned has been dead for days. We don't know when exactly the comet appears... Only that it coincides with the birth of Dany's dragons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhaenys_Targaryen Posted February 13, 2015 Author Share Posted February 13, 2015 Still startled by the notion that Varys might be a trained FM, he told us he was a mummer by trade, but so is Mercy. It had never ocurred to me. If this is a small question: are there any leads to Varys himself being a trained killer (on top of being a trained mummer and magician)? Since when is Varys a trained magician? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FranklynFowler Posted February 13, 2015 Share Posted February 13, 2015 Just gone on a GRRM spending Hedge Knights, Sworn Sword and all that. Can anyone confirm if the Ice Dragon short story is set in Westeros, some sources say yes some say no. Really confused Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhaenys_Targaryen Posted February 13, 2015 Author Share Posted February 13, 2015 Just gone on a GRRM spending Hedge Knights, Sworn Sword and all that. Can anyone confirm if the Ice Dragon short story is set in Westeros, some sources say yes some say no. Really confusedIt isn't part of the asoiaf universe, as far as I am aware. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon Weirgaryen Posted February 13, 2015 Share Posted February 13, 2015 Since when is Varys a trained magician? Right, not magician, a true sorcerer is the word. Since Arya III: "You are more than a juggler, old friend. You are a true sorcerer. All I ask is that you work your magic awhile longer." They started down the hall in the direction Arya had come, past the room with the monsters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthernBastard11 Posted February 13, 2015 Share Posted February 13, 2015 Why was Howland Reed able to kill/stop Arthur Dayne if he got his ass kicked by 3 squires??- or was his antics at Harrenhal somewhat of a ploy to get close to the Starks?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon Weirgaryen Posted February 13, 2015 Share Posted February 13, 2015 Why was Howland Reed able to kill/stop Arthur Dayne if he got his ass kicked by 3 squires??- or was his antics at Harrenhal somewhat of a ploy to get close to the Starks?? It is a mystery. For once you should notice that between the first and second encounter, two years have passed. The second of which, so it seems, Howland may have spent fighting a whole war in Ned's company, so he might be a hardened battle fighter by now. But there is also a notable Lyanna-Howland connection. May there be more? See below... A few more or less crazy theories are about. Howland was able to distract Arthur with a trick of his crannogman trade. Thrown a frog at him, cast a fishing net over him and pulled, thrown a poison dart in his face, anything on that line. Howland may have used a word, truthful or triclsy, magical or not. Got something to have Arthur consider that to lose and die is the honourables thing he could do. Howland may have had a connection to Arthur's sister Ashara since Harrenhal, too. Some crazier theories walk about that they might even have been married in secrecy, making Howland and Arthur kin. Discarding the idea a simple note being brought to Arthur from Ashara by way of Howland might have swayed odds, if there was an A+H and Arthur knew of it. And maybe as simple as that, anything can happen in battle, it might just have been Arthur remembering the weakling of two years ago and underestimating him when fighting both Ned and Howland. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhaenys_Targaryen Posted February 13, 2015 Author Share Posted February 13, 2015 Right, not magician, a true sorcerer is the word. Since Arya III:I have never taken Illyrio to mean that literally. Especially because Varys compared it to juggling first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mychel_Redfort Posted February 13, 2015 Share Posted February 13, 2015 We first see the comet when news of Neds death arrives in the north. By then, Ned has been dead for days. We don't know when exactly the comet appears... Only that it coincides with the birth of Dany's dragons. You're right, chronologically we can't conclude with what's in the books if the comet came before or after Ned's death. But GRRM may have give us hints, or at least symbols, with the sequence of the chapters. The comet is first mentioned in the fourth paragraph of the chapter immediately after Ned's death. Similarly, Bran wakes up in the chapter immediately after Lady's death. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
addicted to snow Posted February 13, 2015 Share Posted February 13, 2015 Personally, I believe that Ned Stark's story & the Red Comet are forever bound together... If I am correct, then we will see the Red Comet return... Regarding Varys: I believe that he is likely the most powerful sorcerer in existence, outside of Ashai... I also think he is a Faceless Man... When Arya is pouring for all the leaders of the Faceless Men in Bravos, there is one chair that is empty (if I remember correctly). I believe that this chair belongs to Varys... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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