Cavendish Posted March 6, 2015 Share Posted March 6, 2015 Hey, it's me again with a controversial title. Just so you know, I just worded the title to get people's attention. My real topic/queston is...Why do people think Sansa is weak? <----Bolded/Italized/Underlined for those of you who will still be confused. :) She never gave off the impression that she was weak to me, especially in ACOK: I just read her 2nd chapter (don't worry I won't be spoiled, I already knows what happens in the future). Anyways I wanted to say that it was said she talks neutral to Joffrey and gets a beating for it for no reason on the regular, and yet she is still very composed. What got me in the chapter was went she wanted to go to the Godswood. She reminded me just like Arya, sneaky and aware. She reads the letter and tries to look at it at different angles, and ends up bolting out of her tower once she realized a riot or something is starting. She even took a knife and ran passed Joffrey and was willing to kill herself or Dontos if he took another step. I didn't think Sansa would be anyone to take a knife and be willing to kill herself or another person. She notes that there's a "wildness" in the godswood that Lady would have liked. So can anyone tell me why people think she is weak? I mean when I was reading her second ACOK chapter, it was like I was reading a second Arya, the girl wanted to leave, she saw an opportunity, and she meant business. There was a "wildness" I've never experienced in her POV before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guess who's back Posted March 6, 2015 Share Posted March 6, 2015 I agree with the title. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minuteman Posted March 6, 2015 Share Posted March 6, 2015 Sorry, but Sansa is weak. Unlike her other siblings she isn't driving the events around herself at all but seems to be caught up in the current helpless to do anything. There may not be much that she can do but really she hasn't even tried. She may become a strong character, possibly even the strongest, but she is very weak at present. Allowing herself to hate Cersie is a positive step and perhaps she will grow to hopefully betray LF. Remember the line from Braveheart "Now you know what it means to hate. Now you are ready to be a king." I think GRRM may have this in mind for Sansa but she hasn't shown much to date. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Typer of Dorne Posted March 6, 2015 Share Posted March 6, 2015 I wouldn't describe Sansa as weak, she starts off naive, but quickly learns how to survive. Out right aggression would have gotten her killed and she knew it, my biggest concern is that Littlefinger will turn her into Cersie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bright Blue Eyes Posted March 6, 2015 Share Posted March 6, 2015 Oh boy/girl, hopefully Mladen doesn't skin you alive for that title. A piece of advice: Don't. It's bad form. As to the topic, because Sansa is interested in stereotypically female activities. Especially early Sansa. Of course girly girls are weak. /sarcasm off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cavendish Posted March 6, 2015 Author Share Posted March 6, 2015 Oh boy/girl, hopefully Mladen doesn't skin you alive for that title. A piece of advice: Don't. It's bad form. As to the topic, because Sansa is interested in stereotypically female activities. Especially early Sansa. Of course girly girls are weak. /sarcasm off. What do you mean by bad form? Like not allowed? If so this will be the last time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guess who's back Posted March 6, 2015 Share Posted March 6, 2015 What do you mean by bad form? Like not allowed? If so this will be the last time. It is perfectly fine to have it written like you have. Don't give in because of some irrational Sansa worshipers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Ned's Little Girl Posted March 6, 2015 Share Posted March 6, 2015 What's wrong with "Why do people think Sansa is weak?" as a title? The people who think so will tell you why (hopefully) and those who don't will do the same (hopefully). It's generally better to just say what you mean, at any rate. I don't think Sansa is weak, she shows immense internal fortitude to endure a very cruel captivity in Kings Landing. And I also don't think Arya is weak either, although I think she gets too much credit for being proactive or for "driving the events around herself". She has a lot of help along the way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Good Guy Garlan Posted March 6, 2015 Share Posted March 6, 2015 Of course she's weak! Remember when Joffrey forced her to see her dad's chopped head? And what does she do? Ask for how long she has to keep staring. Pfff, what a wuss.And then when Meryn Trant slaps the shit out of her she doesn't stand there just gaping like a brave person. No, she goes "You're no true knight, Ser Meryn". Can you believe that weakling?And when she doesn't freak out with the rest of the women at Maegor's Holdfast during Blackwater, and instead tries to calm them like an absolute coward?And how about that part when she turns into the punching bag of the Kingsguard and she still keeps on parroting her lies about loving Joffrey? Dear lord, so weakOh, and that bit when she has to make small talk with the people responsible of killing their brother and mother, with the murders still super fresh in her mind? Weak, weak, weak Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreign675 Posted March 6, 2015 Share Posted March 6, 2015 Hey, it's me again with a controversial title. Just so you know, I just worded the title to get people's attention. My real topic/queston is...Why do people think Sansa is weak? <----Bolded/Italized/Underlined for those of you who will still be confused. :) She never gave off the impression that she was weak to me, especially in ACOK: I just read her 2nd chapter (don't worry I won't be spoiled, I already knows what happens in the future). Anyways I wanted to say that it was said she talks neutral to Joffrey and gets a beating for it for no reason on the regular, and yet she is still very composed. What got me in the chapter was went she wanted to go to the Godswood. She reminded me just like Arya, sneaky and aware. She reads the letter and tries to look at it at different angles, and ends up bolting out of her tower once she realized a riot or something is starting. She even took a knife and ran passed Joffrey and was willing to kill herself or Dontos if he took another step. I didn't think Sansa would be anyone to take a knife and be willing to kill herself or another person. She notes that there's a "wildness" in the godswood that Lady would have liked. So can anyone tell me why people think she is weak? I mean when I was reading her second ACOK chapter, it was like I was reading a second Arya, the girl wanted to leave, she saw an opportunity, and she meant business. There was a "wildness" I've never experienced in her POV before. You've settled up a quite nasty honeypot trap, haven't you? IMHO, Sansa is the strongest of the litter. If I was in her difficult situation, that IMHO is psychologically very heavy, I would have already committed suicide a long time ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Posted March 6, 2015 Share Posted March 6, 2015 She isn't weak, she has a different kind of strength and I believe we will see it very clearly by the end of this neverending tale. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Ned's Little Girl Posted March 6, 2015 Share Posted March 6, 2015 Of course she's weak!Remember when Joffrey forced her to see her dad's chopped head? And what does she do? Ask for how long she has to keep staring. Pfff, what a wuss. And then that whole "I'm gonna push Joffrey off this wall so he'll splat and die even though I'll probably be killed myself too but whatever" monologue? Craven cowardice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Prince of Dorne Posted March 6, 2015 Share Posted March 6, 2015 She hasn't learned to use the power of the _____ yet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Posted March 6, 2015 Share Posted March 6, 2015 She hasn't learned to use the power of the _____ yet She will, but that will not be the only power she will learn to use. I think many people underestimate this girl and after all, that is what she is, flowered or no she's a child. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Good Guy Garlan Posted March 6, 2015 Share Posted March 6, 2015 And then that whole "I'm gonna push Joffrey off this wall so he'll splat and die even though I'll probably be killed myself too but whatever" monologue? Craven cowardice.Exactly, classic weakling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Posted March 6, 2015 Share Posted March 6, 2015 Of course she's weak!Remember when Joffrey forced her to see her dad's chopped head? And what does she do? Ask for how long she has to keep staring. Pfff, what a wuss.And then when Meryn Trant slaps the shit out of her she doesn't stand there just gaping like a brave person. No, she goes "You're no true knight, Ser Meryn". Can you believe that weakling?And when she doesn't freak out with the rest of the women at Maegor's Holdfast during Blackwater, and instead tries to calm them like an absolute coward?And how about that part when she turns into the punching bag of the Kingsguard and she still keeps on parroting her lies about loving Joffrey? Dear lord, so weakOh, and that bit when she has to make small talk with the people responsible of killing their brother and mother, with the murders still super fresh in her mind? Weak, weak, weakI like the way you write and agree 1000% She is a very strong person. I've said this before, her courtesies are her armor. She uses them very well. I would truly like to know how many of us posters would be able to look upon our father's dead head without freaking out? She was almost gang raped too and that would have sent many to a dark place they would not recover from quickly. Sansa's strength is more subtle than Arya's but it is still amazing. She is only a child of 13 and has endured an awful lot. I think her parents would be proud of her. She deserves the name of Stark. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelsey094 Posted March 6, 2015 Share Posted March 6, 2015 Sansa is a survivor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord of the Dreadfort Posted March 6, 2015 Share Posted March 6, 2015 I think she is a strong girl. She doesn't need to know how to fight to be strong, as many people think ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Errant Bard Posted March 6, 2015 Share Posted March 6, 2015 What does "weak" mean, in this context? I agree that Sansa probably has less muscle power than her older siblings, parents, and most likely even Arya, but beyond that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ferocious Veldt Roarer Posted March 6, 2015 Share Posted March 6, 2015 Hey, it's me again with a controversial title. Just so you know, I just worded the title to get people's attention. Wouldn't that be what they call "trolling"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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