Cas Stark Posted April 13, 2015 Share Posted April 13, 2015 Like the threat of Margery possibly casting her down? Yeah, I don't predict any showdown between Margery and Cersei this season. They'll get along just fine. We already had that, without the prophecy, and we would have that, in probably a majority of similar instances of older queen/younger queen without any prophecy. We already know Cersei hates Marg. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ran Posted April 13, 2015 Author Share Posted April 13, 2015 206 votes, 6.94 average, 7.02 with the top/bottom 5% cut out of the equation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhoenixfromAshes Posted April 13, 2015 Share Posted April 13, 2015 It was good. The opening scene is well done, young Cersei is perfect.The Wall scenes are the best. The dynamic between Stannis and Jon is enjoyable to watch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
juanml82 Posted April 13, 2015 Share Posted April 13, 2015 We already had that, without the prophecy, and we would have that, in probably a majority of similar instances of older queen/younger queen without any prophecy. We already know Cersei hates Marg. Yep. The prophecy gives her reasons to hate her Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fez Posted April 13, 2015 Share Posted April 13, 2015 7/10 Some good scenes, no great ones, and the whole episode was just too slow. I know that's par the course for season openers, so I'm not too disappointed, but it still felt a bit like stalling. I think the extended "previously on" covered enough ground that it would've been okay for this episode to move forward on storylines rather than sit back and take stock of where everything was post-ep10 of last year. And the thing is, the storylines that did have that forward movement, the Wall and Tyrion-Varys, I think were by far the best part of the episode. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kajmakk Posted April 13, 2015 Share Posted April 13, 2015 Yep. The prophecy gives her reasons to hate her Not only prophecy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kissdbyfire Posted April 13, 2015 Share Posted April 13, 2015 (edited) I gave it a 5. I had decided not to watch this season, but realised I was going to learn what had happened anyway, so I changed my mind. I thought it was ok, overall.Hate that apparently the whole Mance/Rattleshirt switcheroo is out, as it means a whole bunch of other stuff will be shoved out D&D's 'moon door'.And this.7 --If Littlefinger is taking Sansa to Winterfell (not directly stated, but one probable possibility)...then...all I can imagine--based on at least two actors' pearl-clutching near-spoiler gossipings to the media--is that we are headed to some Ramsey torture-porn on Sansa later in the later episodes. If that happens...it would be one of the cheapest, dumbest pieces of exploitation ever committed in American television. Do D + D think so little of Sansa's intelligence-survival instincts, that she would agree to an LF plan that would involve her married into the Bolton mafia...without any back-up? Seriously, who in the fuck--above a 30 IQ--would agree to that? This is already giving me nightmares. Sansa Poole?Edited out stuff from the leaked 2nd ep. Edited April 13, 2015 by kissdbyfire Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master and Commander Posted April 13, 2015 Share Posted April 13, 2015 A solid 2. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lovely Lyanna Posted April 13, 2015 Share Posted April 13, 2015 Probably the best season premiere since Winter Is Coming. Was prepared for a couple of changes that would have annoyed me otherwise, but I was able to roll with them and just enjoy. :agree: I gave the show a 7, but I did think that as far as season premieres go, it was really good. Most of the time on the season premieres, they just go around and say "Howdy" to everyone. This episode felt like they were actually moving some of the storylines, rather than just running around and visiting everyone so they can get some screen time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilusmagnus Posted April 13, 2015 Share Posted April 13, 2015 (edited) I don't get the point of the flashback in the show, with no Melara in the well, and no valonqar, it doesn't seem important enough of an event to color the rest of her life or merit inclusion in the show. It's pretty clear that they haven't shown everything they wanted to show from the flashback yet. We will see more. How many roads you think there are connecting important places in a vale? The terrain is constricted because of the mountains. Brienne went to the Vale to look for Sansa because her aunt lived there. Sansa went to the Vale because her aunt lived there. They are both traveling. You won't have more than one road joining the same castles and towns because there is no room for additional roads. So of course they are going to cross each other along the way, because they can not use different roads. THANK YOU. I've been explaining that for years. Well not for years technically but you get my point. Edited April 13, 2015 by Pilusmagnus Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balerion's Whiskers Posted April 13, 2015 Share Posted April 13, 2015 I gave it a 9...the show itself was worth an 8, but I was just so happy that the new season is here, I bumped it up a notch. The book is the book, the show is the show... and once you can get your head around that, it is easy to enjoy this alternate look into the world of Westeros/Essos. Things I liked Young Cersei...I hop we see her again...she was spot-onTyrion/Varys...they'll make for an interesting arc. Tyrion is drinking himself to Mereen, so we'll still feel his despair.The WallDany's grown up dragonsAnd I'm actually warming up to Darrio....(didn't think it was possible...don't like bookDarrio either) What I didn't like Pod and Brienne...looked like they just grabbed some footage from S4 and wove it inSweetrobin 'training'....(shudders)The whole thing felt rushed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie Lannister Posted April 13, 2015 Share Posted April 13, 2015 5/10. I don't usually enjoy the catch-up premiers and this didn't break tradition, but it was still peppered with a few cool scenes. The ending was pretty great even with its implications. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grayven Posted April 13, 2015 Share Posted April 13, 2015 6/10. It felt more like an episode 10 "clean-up the plot after all the excitement", which I suppose makes sense because of the way the last season ended without one. It seems like the maggi flashback will be revisited(hopefully) maybe during her walk scene? Maggi tells cersei she has 3 questions. Cersei only asked 2 in this episode before being snapped out of it. Lil Cersei asked three questions. I'm promised to the prince. When will we marry?But I will be queen?Will the king and I have children? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lovely Lyanna Posted April 13, 2015 Share Posted April 13, 2015 If I were an HBO boss, I'd scrap the show here and now or I'd fire the writers. LOL That would not be a good business decision and so it's a good thing for HBO investors that you are not running HBO. You do know that the show is their most successful series, even surpassing The Sopranos. Considering the large mess, that the showrunners have to work with, I think they do an excellent job of streamlining it and bringing it to the screen. I enjoy the show and I enjoy the books. You do understand that no one is forcing you to watch show? If they put everything that is in those overblown, unedited books into the show, it would be 1000 hours of just meandering drivel and that would not be much fun to watch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Modesty Lannister Posted April 13, 2015 Share Posted April 13, 2015 (edited) LOL That would not be a good business decision and so it's a good thing for HBO investors that you are not running HBO. You do know that the show is their most successful series, even surpassing The Sopranos. Considering the large mess, that the showrunners have to work with, I think they do an excellent job of streamlining it and bringing it to the screen. I enjoy the show and I enjoy the books. You do understand that no one is forcing you to watch show? If they put everything that is in those overblown, unedited books into the show, it would be 1000 hours of just meandering drivel and that would not be much fun to watch. Do me the curtesy of quoting my posts in full instead of taking a sentence out of context and commenting on a wrong context. Thank you. Edited April 13, 2015 by Modesty Lannister Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aerys Blackfyre Posted April 13, 2015 Share Posted April 13, 2015 things I liked: dark Sansa and LF Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liaraeyne Posted April 13, 2015 Share Posted April 13, 2015 6.5/10 Too much dialogue. Great acting, scenery and costumes. Overall a bit boring. My boyfriend, who was not read the books, absolutely loved it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lovely Lyanna Posted April 13, 2015 Share Posted April 13, 2015 3 And that 3 was solely gained by Ciaran Hinds as Mance Rayder. Everything else is a joke. Not a single arc resembles the books. Even dead Tywin does not smell. Dialogues are stupid (because they do not use what GRRM wrote and think they can write dialogues). Nudity is boring, pointless and takes too much screen time. Stereotypes have now passed the threshold of being offensive (Loras). I hope gay community rips them to shreds. They deserve it. They even managed to botch up Maggy the Frog scene with no valonqar and 3 children (what about that boy with black of hair in season 1. Continuity? Anyone?) If I were an HBO boss, I'd scrap the show here and now or I'd fire the writers. Your full quote does not help you any. I can just picture that HBO board meeting. I guess the commentary would be something like, "Off with the heads of those Game of Thrones writers and while you are at it, go ahead and cancel this show. I do not care that it is our most successful show. What do you think we are running around here? Some kind of business that is supposed to turn a profit? We are not about profit. If they are not going to put each and everyone of those insignificant side characters in, there is no point in having this show on at all." Hey, I have a great idea. If you do not like the show, do not watch it. I feel your pain. I really do. There have been books that I liked, that for whatever reason, I did not like the film adaptation. When that has been the case, I simply either turned off the TV midway or I do not watch the following films or episodes. I do hope that you understand that you have free will to turn off that TV. I always think hate watching is such a waste of time when you could be spending your time reading or watching something that you actually enjoy. 7 blessings my friend and fellow lover of ASOIAF. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vividox Posted April 13, 2015 Share Posted April 13, 2015 Thought it was a really good episode. Only part I wasn't a huge fan of was the Brienne and Pod stuff. Thought Sweetrobin's "sword fighting" was amazeballs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sj4iy Posted April 13, 2015 Share Posted April 13, 2015 Thought it was a really good episode. Only part I wasn't a huge fan of was the Brienne and Pod stuff. Thought Sweetrobin's "sword fighting" was amazeballs. That part was hilarious. My husband and I were laughing pretty hard at the "girl with palsy" comment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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