Ran Posted April 20, 2015 Author Share Posted April 20, 2015 7 for me. This is S5 Introduction, part 2, in my mind, with the same issues that first episodes have. I like Meereen, it presented a good, clear narrative that built up the internal conflicts as the primary threat to Daenerys (obviating the need of expansive -- and expensive -- external threats). Dorne looks gorgeous, but giving Ellaria the Catelyn treatment makes me very sad. This episode should have given Dorne at least twice as much time (easily done by dropping the Tyrion-Varys scene which reiterated things we already knew; well-acted, yes, by two of the show's best actors, but still, it was unnecessary) and it should have been the Sand Snakes demanding revenge; Ellaria could show up later in some capacity. Also, Arya, that's another oddly padded out one, but obviously that's a structural issue -- having it done in one scene would have been weird. Stannis-Jon was good. The election was very, very compressed, but nothing I found too troublesome. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sj4iy Posted April 20, 2015 Share Posted April 20, 2015 Good Now I wont have to sit through her boring AFFC storyline and watch her spend an entire season searching for Sansa only to not even come close to finding her lol Agreed. She was the second worst thing about AFFC/ADWD...only Quentyn could top her story. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hear me bore Posted April 20, 2015 Share Posted April 20, 2015 Bear Islands knows only one king....This made the episode great. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
north of the wall Posted April 20, 2015 Share Posted April 20, 2015 I gave it an 8. Better than the 1st ep. I liked Braavos and Mereen (never thought I'd say that. lol) I wasn't keen on the intro to Dorne and am still not looking forward to where Sansa's arc is going. The wall is still going strong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mistress of Lemon Cakes Posted April 20, 2015 Share Posted April 20, 2015 Way better than the first episode. I gave it an 8. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ser Creighton Posted April 20, 2015 Share Posted April 20, 2015 Bear Islands knows only one king....This made the episode great.Stannis really plays his hand well with that letter, it's not as demanding as in the books. He was playing a card and knows what he wants. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tijgy Posted April 20, 2015 Share Posted April 20, 2015 To be fair and without nickping, I must give it a 7 because it is better than the first one. I loved the interaction between Bronn and Lollys. It was rather sweet (Stupid Bracken!).I thought it was strange first Arya was not admitted and then well after threatening some guys?Meereen was also good and finally Dany was not totally wooden in this entire episode. So yeahLyanna!!! She came in it while somebody in this forum said once to me I should not hope for it (but she is the Lady Mormont. So no sisters? :crying: ) Gives the episode 2 points extraSansa/Brienne and Jaime/Cersei were strange scenes.Pod was hilarious. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnowCastle Posted April 20, 2015 Share Posted April 20, 2015 8/10! I was disappointed last week and now I'm totally stoked again!Highlights:Jaqen!Drogon scene was awesome, Dany's vulnerability is good to see again.Jon interacting with Stannis and finally being elected. Kit is doing so well this season, we even saw a smile.The music. Season 4 was pretty meh, but this year the score is back to being epic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lyanna<3Rhaegar Posted April 20, 2015 Share Posted April 20, 2015 (edited) 8More exciting than last episodeThings I liked:Sansa being all regalDorne! The NW election (Especially Aemon casting the last vote) Jon & StannisKevan telling Cersei "You are the queen mother, nothing more."Shireen teaching Gilly to readDaario, he is really growing on meDany & DrogonBronn & Lollys :lol:The Slayer calling Janos out & Maester Aemon laughing at it :lmao:Things I didn't like:Dany killing the former slave :( tHoB&W Arya is my favorite & I love seeing Maisie on camera but the whole thing in Braavos was weirdPod & Brienne I was a fan of them in the books but I don't like them on screenEllaria demanding vengeance... Should have been the sand snakesJaime going to Dorne... Wait... What? Maybe this will pan out decent but for now I'm not digging it Edited April 20, 2015 by Lyanna<3Rhaegar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rrrrrrrreal High Sparrow Posted April 20, 2015 Share Posted April 20, 2015 6/10 but maybe that's harsh. Some things are just lame/confusing right now, like the Sansa/LF/Brienne and Pod. I think I'm going to like Jaqen as the KM. Tom Wlaschiha gives me the floaty hearts. I kinda wanted to give a 10/10 just for him (and Lyanna's note). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Smith Posted April 20, 2015 Share Posted April 20, 2015 (edited) 6. Rather disappointed. Bit of a slide after the first episode. Some strange creative and narrative choices. What I liked: - Tyrion and Varys banter. They didn't do much this episode, but it was still great to visit them. And they produced the best line of the episode: "Are we going to spend the whole trip talking about the futility of everything?" "You're, right, no point". - Someone finally telling Dany her father was a nutjob. - The execution and semi-riot in Mereen. They're doing a good job of showing how segregated and ungovernable the city is. - 'Jaqen's' reveal. I like that they specified that he is 'no-one', and as far as we know, might not even be the same Jaquen that she met at Harrenhal. - Lyanna Mormont. Really happy they included that. What I didn't like: - Doran. Very disappointed. He's too angry and petulant. He should be measuring every word and look physically in pain; they didn't even mention his gout. They have time to turn it around, but its not a good start. - Sansa's run-in with Brienne. Incredibly clumy. Littlefinger and Sansa are stopping by in a tavern, in plain sight??? I expect better. - Weird-ass intro to the House of Black and White. Kicking her out and then letting her in? What was the point of that at all?? - Kevan. We know he mistrusts Cersei, but the Unsullied don't, so the scene really lacked meaning. I don't know why they bothered bringing him back in. - I wish they'd given Jon time to ponder over Stannis's offer rather than straight up choosing to refuse. Edited April 20, 2015 by Mr Smith Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Florina Laufeyson Posted April 20, 2015 Share Posted April 20, 2015 (edited) Not really sure. I give it a 6/10 for now.I feel this. Im giving it a 6 right now. But i may change my vote when it really sinks in. There were things i really liked and things i want to die in a fire. So...i have the conflicts. Bear Islands knows only one king....This made the episode great. I squeed. Its been a while since i squeed. I loved that. It really did brighten things up. Edited April 20, 2015 by Florina Laufeyson Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poète Lauréat Posted April 20, 2015 Share Posted April 20, 2015 Worse than episode 1. Brienne scene was dumb. Wasted 15min screen time. 3/10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SummerGhostofNymeria Posted April 20, 2015 Share Posted April 20, 2015 Truth be told, sometimes it's hard to decide why I like or dislike certain parts of the show because of my likes/dislikes in the book. I think they're doing a decent job with the show given that this part of the story arc for everyone is supposed to be in a stage of rebuilding/continuing to build.However, I also know that the show is supposed to start deviating from the books a bit. That being said:-Dany still annoys me and her storyline in Meereen. I know, and understand why she's going through this, but it doesn't make it any less painful for me. BUT at least there was some dragon to make it better because in all this I'm rooting for the actual animal dragons.-Arya's storyline... Jaqen... Interesting.-Jon on the Wall, I generally enjoy seeing all of that unfolding so not bad.-It's nice to at least see Dorne.-Cersei is still... Well... The best part of all of that was the small council scene by far.-Hey! It's Bronn!It'll be interesting to see the show truly start becoming it's own entity. I wonder how much will change. Too early to tell, I have a feeling. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trebla Posted April 20, 2015 Share Posted April 20, 2015 What I didn't like: - Doran. Very disappointed. He's too angry and petulant. He should be measuring every word and look physically in pain; they didn't even mention his gout. They have time to turn it around, but its not a good start.As someone who has chronic pain every day, pain CAN make you angry and petulant. Another thing is that one can try not to look in constant pain but it's written all over one's face. He had dark circles under his eyes, a tell-tale sign of chronic pain because it's your body's way of telling your it is fatigued even if you had a full night's sleep. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tallTale Posted April 20, 2015 Share Posted April 20, 2015 Voted a 3. Thought it was just a mess. One of the worst episodes of the show yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wendel Shoemaker Posted April 20, 2015 Share Posted April 20, 2015 I laughed too many times throughout the episode due to silly logic and awkward writing, particularily the Cersai/Jaime scene and Ellaria. There were some strong moments like Kevan's scene, Tyrion, Jon + Stannis. Also kind of funny how he offered Jon the title of Stark only to immediately be shut down 5 seconds later. Should have mentioned it last episode, gave the audience some time to think on it, and then shut it down. Same with the election, but what can you do. I actually like what's happening in Mereen, it's nice that it's not relying on Danny to tell the story. But Danny continues to make bad decisions, though I suppose that's on par with the books. But what was with that hissing by the Meeren people at the end? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sun Posted April 20, 2015 Share Posted April 20, 2015 An 8. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ser Greenseer Posted April 20, 2015 Share Posted April 20, 2015 (edited) Things I liked:- Kevan Lannister was really cool- Shireen, Gilly and Sam - Doran was great- Jon and Stannis were great- I like the design of Braavos. The Titan was awesome.- Bronn and Lollys- Lyanna Mormont's letter- Not part of this episode but it was in the preview for next week. It has to do with Jon and a block. Things I didn't like:- Ellaria Sand being a bloodlusted murderess- Brienne meeting Sansa- Arya being left out of the House of Black and White for no reason- All Meereen scenes Overall it was a good episode but not the greatest. I give it a 7.249 out of 10. Edited April 20, 2015 by Ser Greenseer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trebla Posted April 20, 2015 Share Posted April 20, 2015 I actually like what's happening in Mereen, it's nice that it's not relying on Danny to tell the story. But Danny continues to make bad decisions, though I suppose that's on par with the books. But what was with that hissing by the Meeren people at the end?People actually used to hiss along with booing to voice displeasure. Google "boo hiss". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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