Title revealed: The Dance of Dragons (book spoilers)

[WheelofIceandFire]

Just wondering where you get runtimes from ?

http://www.hbo.com/#/schedule/detail/Game+of+Thrones+49:+The+Dance+of+Dragons/603781

The fact that it is 'only' 53 minutes is the reason i dont see Winterfell appearing

[imaGOTbluray]

ah ok cool - thx.

[Drogonthedread]

http://www.hbo.com/#/schedule/detail/Game+of+Thrones+49:+The+Dance+of+Dragons/603781

The fact that it is 'only' 53 minutes is the reason i dont see Winterfell appearing

thank you for posting the link

i can see the absence of winterfell or say Sansa alone ...mainly because she has appeared in eevry episode unlike others except tyrion

[john666]

ok then i have to wait till episode 9

i dont know what or who causes the fire but the only thing i know is that it is not Drogon who is doing that ..

you may be right and i maybe wrong we will see that in episode 9 ..i will be happy to eat my crow and tell i was wrong if you are right

It is either Drogon, or blood magic or Bolton's wildfire.

Take your pick for the most likeliest option.

[Masha]

Episode 9.

I would like to reiterate the point that the reason why I am convinced that Drogon will make it to the North is the fire in Stannis camp.

If either you or anybody else have a better explanation for the fire, then present it.

Here are TWO explanations for you 1) burning of Shireen is a big flame and people with torches all around

and 2) Boltons attack Stannis camp and put on fire

[john666]

Here are TWO explanations for you 1) burning of Shireen is a big flame and people with torches all around

and 2) Boltons attack Stannis camp and put on fire

Unless the people with torches intentionally want to burn down their own camp that is not a good explanation.

As for Bolton's, I don't suppose that Stannis will just allow them to walk in his camp so they could burn everything down.

Another reason why it cannot be the Boltons, is the fact that Davos and other men running don't have swords in their hands.

Meaning they are not fighting with other men, meaning they are not being attacked by other men.

[Arkash]

Possibly Bolton men under Ramsay's command setting fire to their food supplies in the night.

[starklover]

thank you for posting the link

i can see the absence of winterfell or say Sansa alone ...mainly because she has appeared in eevry episode unlike others except tyrion

What was the link of? could have get in it.

[ToTheWolves]

There are two important things that you people are ignoring.

1. This episode will feature a big battle between wildlings/Jon Snow and The Army of the Dead.

2. The implications of Jon returning to the wall so soon.

First of all, considering that the episode is called "The Dance of Dragons", and considering that this episode will feature a big battle in the North, isn't it logical to assume that a Dragon will maybe be involved in all of this?

Yes it is, but you people immediately disregard this idea, because "you are certain that Drogon will appear in the Pit".

Another thing is the issue with chronology;

Up until now big battles in E9 have lasted the entire duration of the episode, which means that this big battle in the North will last at the very least, half the duration of the episode.

If so, that would mean that if Jon is going to return to The Wall in this episode with a ship, the ship will have to travel for only half the episode.

Now people, it is logical to assume that the ship can travel so fast from Hardhome to Eastwatch?

No it is not.

So how will Jon arrive at The Wall so fast?

With a Dragon of course!!!

Jon in the show will assume the role of Dany in the Pit(book version).

It is he who is going to be saved by Drogon, and then - ridding Drogon - arrive at The Wall.

For those of you think that my interpretation is too far fetched ANSWER ME ONE THING

From what is the Stannis camp burning - as seen in the trailer - if not from Dragon Fire?

Let me guess, Bolton torches :agree:

??!

[jontargaryen_]

There are two important things that you people are ignoring.

1. This episode will feature a big battle between wildlings/Jon Snow and The Army of the Dead.

2. The implications of Jon returning to the wall so soon.

First of all, considering that the episode is called "The Dance of Dragons", and considering that this episode will feature a big battle in the North, isn't it logical to assume that a Dragon will maybe be involved in all of this?

Yes it is, but you people immediately disregard this idea, because "you are certain that Drogon will appear in the Pit".

Another thing is the issue with chronology;

Up until now big battles in E9 have lasted the entire duration of the episode, which means that this big battle in the North will last at the very least, half the duration of the episode.

If so, that would mean that if Jon is going to return to The Wall in this episode with a ship, the ship will have to travel for only half the episode.

Now people, it is logical to assume that the ship can travel so fast from Hardhome to Eastwatch?

No it is not.

So how will Jon arrive at The Wall so fast?

With a Dragon of course!!!

Jon in the show will assume the role of Dany in the Pit(book version).

It is he who is going to be saved by Drogon, and then - ridding Drogon - arrive at The Wall.

For those of you think that my interpretation is too far fetched ANSWER ME ONE THING

From what is the Stannis camp burning - as seen in the trailer - if not from Dragon Fire?

Let me guess, Bolton torches :agree:

I truly do not see Drogon being in the North? It is way to far from the story in the book that I really don't think GRRM would allow it as he gets a say of what is happening.

That's a ridiculous theory because Drogon is bonded to Dany? So how is it possible for Drogon to bond with Jon? Unless you're proposing that the books and the show are going on COMPLETELY different paths.

Don't get me wrong, Jon is one of my favorites and I would love to see him on a dragon but it's not happening in the North.

[jontargaryen_]

Also, have you thought about the fact that pretty sure no one would dare stab Jon with a dragon around him so are you saying that FTW isn't happening either?

[Drogonthedread]

What was the link of? could have get in it.

its just about HBO schedules and episode details for that epsiode ...Title and screen time and cast and director of the episode

[God-Emperor of Yi Ti]

There are two important things that you people are ignoring.

1. This episode will feature a big battle between wildlings/Jon Snow and The Army of the Dead.

2. The implications of Jon returning to the wall so soon.

First of all, considering that the episode is called "The Dance of Dragons", and considering that this episode will feature a big battle in the North, isn't it logical to assume that a Dragon will maybe be involved in all of this?

Yes it is, but you people immediately disregard this idea, because "you are certain that Drogon will appear in the Pit".

Another thing is the issue with chronology;

Up until now big battles in E9 have lasted the entire duration of the episode, which means that this big battle in the North will last at the very least, half the duration of the episode.

If so, that would mean that if Jon is going to return to The Wall in this episode with a ship, the ship will have to travel for only half the episode.

Now people, it is logical to assume that the ship can travel so fast from Hardhome to Eastwatch?

No it is not.

So how will Jon arrive at The Wall so fast?

With a Dragon of course!!!

Jon in the show will assume the role of Dany in the Pit(book version).

It is he who is going to be saved by Drogon, and then - ridding Drogon - arrive at The Wall.

For those of you think that my interpretation is too far fetched ANSWER ME ONE THING

From what is the Stannis camp burning - as seen in the trailer - if not from Dragon Fire?

Let me guess, Bolton torches :agree:

epic trolling :)

[john666]

Also, have you thought about the fact that pretty sure no one would dare stab Jon with a dragon around him so are you saying that FTW isn't happening either?

How can FTW possibly happen in the show?

If Jon Snow returns with the wildlings(let's suppose even without Drogon), and the Night's Watch stab him, what do you think, what would the wildlings do to the Night's Watch, when they find out that the NW killed their "savior"?

THEY WOULD SLAUGHTER THEM!!!

Some of you would maybe say, well it's going to be Olly.

OK.

Olly stabs him, so what happens to Olly?

What happens to Ollie, is that he is going to get killed by either the NW or the wildlings.

[john666]

I have noticed that nobody here wants to talk about the big battle between the White Walkers and Jon Snow/wildlings.

Therefore I have a question for all of you:

HOW MANY MINUTES IS THE BATTLE BETWEEN THE WHITE WALKERS AND JON SNOW/WILDLINGS GOING TO LAST?

[jontargaryen_]

How can FTW possibly happen in the show?

If Jon Snow returns with the wildlings(let's suppose even without Drogon), and the Night's Watch stab him, what do you think, what would the wildlings do to the Night's Watch, when they find out that the NW killed their "savior"?

THEY WOULD SLAUGHTER THEM!!!

Some of you would maybe say, well it's going to be Olly.

OK.

Olly stabs him, so what happens to Olly?

What happens to Ollie, is that he is going to get killed by either the NW or the wildlings.

Hahahahaha oh my gosh.. FTW will happen in the show because it MUST it's a huge part of Jons story line and I'm telling you now it will happen and I can't wait to see your reaction when it does ☺☺ of course there are going to be consequences for whoever does it but they're clearly not thinking that at the time of FTW are they?

[jontargaryen_]

I have noticed that nobody here wants to talk about the big battle between the White Walkers and Jon Snow/wildlings.

Therefore I have a question for all of you:

HOW MANY MINUTES IS THE BATTLE BETWEEN THE WHITE WALKERS AND JON SNOW/WILDLINGS GOING TO LAST?

Why does this matter? I am curious as to what theory you have for this?;o

[Arkash]

Ton answer that question I'd say :

Jon arrives in Hardhome mid-episode. Night discussion with the willdlings leaders. - 6 minutes.

Come the morning, the Walkers show up. All hell breaks loose. Episode ends on Jon and wildlings boarding ships and running away south. - 15 minutes.

So I'd say appr 20 minutes of screentime North of the Wall.

[john666]

Hahahahaha oh my gosh.. FTW will happen in the show because it MUST it's a huge part of Jons story line and I'm telling you now it will happen and I can't wait to see your reaction when it does ☺☺ of course there are going to be consequences for whoever does it but they're clearly not thinking that at the time of FTW are they?

The conspirators are clearly not thinking that they are going to be fighting the wildlings, if they stab Jon?

Then what are they thinking about?

They kill him, and everything is going to be wonderful from now on? :wideeyed:

[john666]

Ton answer that question I'd say :

Jon arrives in Hardhome mid-episode. Night discussion with the willdlings leaders. - 6 minutes.

Come the morning, the Walkers show up. All hell breaks loose. Episode ends on Jon and wildlings boarding ships and running away south. - 15 minutes.

So I'd say appr 20 minutes of screentime North of the Wall.

You are saying that the WW are going to appear in E8, and that in E8 Jon and wildlings board the ships and run away?