Natalia Borgia Posted May 19, 2015 Share Posted May 19, 2015 In the books it is Mace Tyrell and Randall Tarly who have an army waiting to free Marg ( FREE THE TYRELLS!). Will Olenna get her troops ready and pose a threat to Tommen? Will Marg and Tommen stay married? I think that she will probably cut off food shipments and further inflame the small folk and if anything happens to Loras- Tommen may also be getting a case of sword through the bowels or a taste of poison necklace soup as soon as Marg has a baby in the belly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Suburbs Posted May 19, 2015 Share Posted May 19, 2015 She would have to go to war against the faith, though, not the crown, and that's a dicey prospect. People in King's Landing see the Faith Militant as the zealots they are, but out in the countryside, and all through the Reach, they are still the defenders of the gods. And starving the smallfolk won't win her many friends. I think her best hope is a political solution. But if Loras is condemned to die, I can see her taking the fight to the FM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sultan of Westeros Posted May 19, 2015 Share Posted May 19, 2015 Tyrells amuse me. They always try to play game of thrones at highest level and lose. I think she can raise army but i don't think it will happen this season. I think this season will end at a point where no one in kings landing will be in ruling position ie tyrells and cersie imprisoned and pycelle and Kevin (and probably LF) killed). I believe we will leave kings landing in complete chaos this season with no one left to rule. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SerDoublePost Posted May 19, 2015 Share Posted May 19, 2015 Whatever she does I suspect Tommen wont last around too long, either this season or early in the next one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Tower of Almond Joy Posted May 19, 2015 Share Posted May 19, 2015 Who is the hand of the king now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sultan of Westeros Posted May 19, 2015 Share Posted May 19, 2015 Who is the hand of the king now?Post is vacant. Duties assumed by cersie as queen regent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Tower of Almond Joy Posted May 19, 2015 Share Posted May 19, 2015 Who typically has more power? the queen or the queen regent? He needs to quit signing everything she puts in front of him..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Everett Snow Posted May 19, 2015 Share Posted May 19, 2015 Based of the establishing shot of Olenna approaching King's Landing, there won't be a Tyrell army involved. My assumption is that she and Lancel will tell the High Sparrow of Cersei's familial friendliness and have her arrested. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ted Chang Posted May 19, 2015 Share Posted May 19, 2015 Who typically has more power? the queen or the queen regent? He needs to quit signing everything she puts in front of him..... He might need to but he isn't going to. He's scared of his own shadow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sultan of Westeros Posted May 19, 2015 Share Posted May 19, 2015 Who typically has more power? the queen or the queen regent? He needs to quit signing everything she puts in front of him.....Regent until king comes of age and can excercise power in his own right. This is where show messed up the idea that show tommen is old enough to bang margaery but can make decisions is just stupid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ted Chang Posted May 19, 2015 Share Posted May 19, 2015 Regent until king comes of age and can excercise power in his own right. This is where show messed up the idea that show tommen is old enough to bang margaery but can make decisions is just stupid. Are you saying you never met an indecisive adult? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Pesci Posted May 19, 2015 Share Posted May 19, 2015 Are you saying you never met an indecisive adult? I'd guess that what is meant is that by aging Tommen up, it really defeats the whole purpose of having Cersei as regent because Tommen has already "come of age". That doesn't mean he won't be indecisive, but he is past the age of needing someone to govern in his stead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Pesci Posted May 19, 2015 Share Posted May 19, 2015 And no, I don't think she will need to go to war. Guessing she gets ahold of LF and has him drop the Lancel/Cersei bomb to the HS. The lack of the siege of Storms' End also doesn't put an already assembled Tyrell army close by. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ted Chang Posted May 19, 2015 Share Posted May 19, 2015 I'd guess that what is meant is that by aging Tommen up, it really defeats the whole purpose of having Cersei as regent because Tommen has already "come of age". That doesn't mean he won't be indecisive, but he is past the age of needing someone to govern in his stead. Yes, I think you are probably right about that. That said, I've dealt with quite a few men well into their forties who never moved out of mum's house though. I think poor Tommen just doesn't want the job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
midi Posted May 19, 2015 Share Posted May 19, 2015 She'll send Randyll Tarly a message to march the armies of the Reach to King's Landing, thus leaving us pretty much exactly where we are in the books. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Pesci Posted May 19, 2015 Share Posted May 19, 2015 She'll send Randyll Tarly a message to march the armies of the Reach to King's Landing, thus leaving us pretty much exactly where we are in the books. Randyll Tarly did get a name drop recently too... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ted Chang Posted May 19, 2015 Share Posted May 19, 2015 Randyll Tarly did get a name drop recently too... So he did. It's certainly a logical route to take. I don't think the show likes to go too far off piste when they can avoid it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sultan of Westeros Posted May 19, 2015 Share Posted May 19, 2015 Are you saying you never met an indecisive adult?No what i am saying is that show tommen has come of age and show cersie should have no power over council because technically she isnt regent anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sultan of Westeros Posted May 19, 2015 Share Posted May 19, 2015 I'd guess that what is meant is that by aging Tommen up, it really defeats the whole purpose of having Cersei as regent because Tommen has already "come of age". That doesn't mean he won't be indecisive, but he is past the age of needing someone to govern in his stead.Exactly, thank you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uldra I Posted May 20, 2015 Share Posted May 20, 2015 I'd guess that what is meant is that by aging Tommen up, it really defeats the whole purpose of having Cersei as regent because Tommen has already "come of age". That doesn't mean he won't be indecisive, but he is past the age of needing someone to govern in his stead. :agree: The aging up of a lot of characters has definitely affected many plots and character arcs from the books. The handling of Tommen's aging-up seems more clumbsy than the rest. Was it even necessary? It did produce a couple memorable lines about setting new records etc... but did the royal "bedding" further any plots or story arcs? I can't say for sure, but it didn't seem like aging Tommen did anything more than allow for a couple funny lines about "new record"s and such. Meanwhile It has resulted in a terrible character assassination of poor King Tommen, giving him the physical age of agency while portraying him mentally as the young boy from the books. His aging-up certainly interferes with the idea of Cersei's regency. So he did. It's certainly a logical route to take. I don't think the show likes to go too far off piste when they can avoid it. Awesome! a new word for me. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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