The Ghost of Rhaegar Posted May 25, 2015 Share Posted May 25, 2015 Littlefinger has no power over Lancel. That makes no sense. I think he is talking about Olyvar. He will either recant or die at the hands of the Tyrells. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jet199 Posted May 25, 2015 Share Posted May 25, 2015 It's Sandor,LF is being sarcastic (in my dreams). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clariana Posted May 25, 2015 Share Posted May 25, 2015 I don't think it can be Lancel as Lancels relationship wit the High Sparrow is independent of Littlefinger's scheming. Only 4 possibilities i can think of, in order of likelihood. Robin Gendry Trystane Rickon Tommen? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mdrake34 Posted May 25, 2015 Share Posted May 25, 2015 Tommen?Ooh . . . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wench of Aggamato Posted May 25, 2015 Share Posted May 25, 2015 Most likely: Lancel. Baeliah commented to Lancel that it was quite a family name to abandon when you become a brother sparrow. Littlefinger somehow got word to the HS that he should question Lancel.Some have theorized the HS was playing Cersei all this time and waiting to spring the trap, but I disagree. Lancel joined the sparrows as a brother, confessed his sins, perhaps even naming names. But we don't know to whom he confessed, and the sparrows didn't have the authority or capability to arrest anyone - until Cersei armed them, recreating the Faith Militant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wench of Aggamato Posted May 26, 2015 Share Posted May 26, 2015 Next likely candidate is Olyvar, as referenced by many others. Lf influences his testimony or has him killed- freeing the tyrells as the faiths evidence is gone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wench of Aggamato Posted May 26, 2015 Share Posted May 26, 2015 The other possibilities, which are less likely are Sweetrobin as a husband for margaery after Tommen is proven a bastard of incest,Or Tommen, but in what role I'm not sure Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mdrake34 Posted May 26, 2015 Share Posted May 26, 2015 They can't prove Tommen is a bastard. They can only prove she slept with Lancel and had him help kill Robert. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToTheWolves Posted May 26, 2015 Share Posted May 26, 2015 At first I shrugged it off and just thought he meant lancel, but doesn't the HS state that lancel confessed a while ago? And it being lancel doesn't make sense.So I'm starting to think this was just misdirection on purpose and LF was referring to Robert Arryn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Ghost of Rhaegar Posted May 26, 2015 Share Posted May 26, 2015 Most likely: Lancel. Baeliah commented to Lancel that it was quite a family name to abandon when you become a brother sparrow. Littlefinger somehow got word to the HS that he should question Lancel.Some have theorized the HS was playing Cersei all this time and waiting to spring the trap, but I disagree. Lancel joined the sparrows as a brother, confessed his sins, perhaps even naming names. But we don't know to whom he confessed, and the sparrows didn't have the authority or capability to arrest anyone - until Cersei armed them, recreating the Faith Militant.The HS was definitely waiting to trap Cersi from day 1. He said so himself if you listened to him. To bad for Cersi she wasn't listening either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stan Man Posted May 26, 2015 Share Posted May 26, 2015 Ooooh, Maybe this is how they introduce fAeogon. This is an interesting theory... I assume this could only be true if fAegon has a lasting impact on the story and features heavily in The Winds of Winter, and even then it's not a sure bet. It also wouldn't be as interesting as Varys being Aegon's road to Westeros - Varys has more connections overseas, while Littlefinger was always rooted in Westeros. It would also be interesting to see a Targaryen-Tyrell alliance, as opposed to the Targaryen-Martell alliance building in the books. I don't think it's true, but I want it to be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Prince of Dorne Posted May 26, 2015 Share Posted May 26, 2015 My first thought was Robin Arryn...but I'm not sure what help that would lend to the Marg/Loras situation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirrel__Army Posted May 26, 2015 Share Posted May 26, 2015 Gendry. LF uses Gendry to lock up the Stormlands and Reach. LF hires the Golden Company, which lands in the Stormlands and takes Storm's End in Gendry's name. Gendry/Margo marriage is put into the works. Of course, there's still Tommen, but I have a feeling that Jaime will not be alone on his return to King's Landing, and poor, poor Tommen will be a victim of a poisoned sewing needle. I've got my own theory about Gendry, not sure if this is the right place though or somewhere else. I think Gendry isn't Roberts bastard and he is actually his and Cersei's 1st dark hair child who apparently died as a baby. If LF has worked that out which is perfectly possible due to all the information he has gathered then it would be the ultimate bombshell, it will get the Lannisters out of power and then have a suitable royal match for Margery. She would need to get her marriage to Tommen annulled though which could be possible if Tommen is proved to be born out of approval of the seven. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aFeastForDragons Posted May 26, 2015 Share Posted May 26, 2015 Why is this even confusing? LF gave Cersei a Handsome Young Man™, Olyvar, and he gave Olenna another HYM™, Lancel. Because Lancel confessed his sins months ago when he came to the Faith. He would have nothing more of value. The High Sparrow was just playing Cersei the whole time. Edit: My guess is sloppy writing. Two separate people must have wrote each scene which would explain the plot holes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winterfell is Burning Posted May 26, 2015 Share Posted May 26, 2015 Just because Lancel joined the Faith it doesn't mean he confessed ALL his sins. Or that he confessed them to the High Sparrow in person. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acosta Posted May 26, 2015 Share Posted May 26, 2015 Had to be Lancel. Come on. That was the very next scene right after he said that. He doesn't need control over him. He just needs to tell the High Sparrow that he was screwing Cersei. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deadlines? What Deadlines? Posted May 26, 2015 Share Posted May 26, 2015 This is an interesting theory... I assume this could only be true if fAegon has a lasting impact on the story and features heavily in The Winds of Winter, and even then it's not a sure bet. It also wouldn't be as interesting as Varys being Aegon's road to Westeros - Varys has more connections overseas, while Littlefinger was always rooted in Westeros. It would also be interesting to see a Targaryen-Tyrell alliance, as opposed to the Targaryen-Martell alliance building in the books. I don't think it's true, but I want it to be. There's a nice symmetry to it. Varys has Dany and Visarys in secret while LF has been cultivating Aegon (or fAegon) in secret. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hallam Posted May 26, 2015 Share Posted May 26, 2015 The Tyrells only care about getting Margery and Loras free. Having Cersei hang as well does them no good. So it must be Ollyvar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deadlines? What Deadlines? Posted May 26, 2015 Share Posted May 26, 2015 The Tyrells only care about getting Margery and Loras free. Having Cersei hang as well does them no good. So it must be Ollyvar. How does that play? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sonic The Hedgeknight Posted May 26, 2015 Share Posted May 26, 2015 If one was to reach into the lost&(never)found bin: Beric DondarrionGendryBalon Harrold HardyngAegonEuronVictarionLady Stoneheart (although absurd as she is female) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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