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Definitely thinking LSH...perhaps Roose tries to run off and flee from Stannis and gets caught by BwB and LSH who gets her revenge for her son


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Bringing in Stoneheart now is pointless. It's 15 or more episodes too late. The whole 'Avenge the Starks, Kill the Freys' storyline is too late in the game, unless it's a nod to bookreaders....an appeasement of sorts. The only Frey we've had in the story since the Red Wedding has been Walda, and no-one wants her dead except Ramsay. It would have been a nice twist in season 4, but the chess pieces have been placed. Winter is almost here, the Walkers are out and about, the dragons are getting big enough to carry riders. Meereen and Winterfell battles may be pushed back 'til next season, leaving little time to explore the Riverlands. People have been complaining about the lack of pace and entertaining storylines this season...how exciting will it be to follow Meribald and Dog around next season?

It does seem suspicious though that we left so many characters in the Riverlands to never see them again. I guess it could simply be a failure of the show, they cast some characters and thought they'd take them somewhere but decided they didn't want to. But I don't think it is outside the realm of possibility to bring back the Blackfish and the BwB and make things interesting in the Riverlands.

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I just read about this in Vanity Fair. They even mentioned the quickly pulled IMDB listing of Michelle Fairley as "Hooded Woman" in episode 10 and the prosthetic Catelyn head.

In what context?

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Bringing in Stoneheart now is pointless. It's 15 or more episodes too late. The whole 'Avenge the Starks, Kill the Freys' storyline is too late in the game, unless it's a nod to bookreaders....an appeasement of sorts. The only Frey we've had in the story since the Red Wedding has been Walda, and no-one wants her dead except Ramsay. It would have been a nice twist in season 4, but the chess pieces have been placed. Winter is almost here, the Walkers are out and about, the dragons are getting big enough to carry riders. Meereen and Winterfell battles may be pushed back 'til next season, leaving little time to explore the Riverlands. People have been complaining about the lack of pace and entertaining storylines this season...how exciting will it be to follow Meribald and Dog around next season?

Not really. She appeared at the very end of the third book (which would have been the last episode of the last season). At the earliest she should have appeared in Episode 10 of season 4 or Episode 1 of this season. They could have just saved her for surprise value.

She hasn't really done much in the books yet. It really wouldn't be difficult at all to catch her up to speed next season. And it will have more of an impact. Catelyn will have been out of the show for a good full two seasons.

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I am guess HBO made the head because they were probably going to shoot a scene of Cat's body being dumped into the river and then decided against it? Maybe?

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I'm preparing myself for the lack of FTW. Jon is challenged could be him finally deciding to go to Winterfell to save Sansa or Stannis. Then the FTW happens beginning of the next season.





Bringing in Stoneheart now is pointless. It's 15 or more episodes too late. The whole 'Avenge the Starks, Kill the Freys' storyline is too late in the game, unless it's a nod to bookreaders....an appeasement of sorts. The only Frey we've had in the story since the Red Wedding has been Walda, and no-one wants her dead except Ramsay. It would have been a nice twist in season 4, but the chess pieces have been placed. Winter is almost here, the Walkers are out and about, the dragons are getting big enough to carry riders. Meereen and Winterfell battles may be pushed back 'til next season, leaving little time to explore the Riverlands. People have been complaining about the lack of pace and entertaining storylines this season...how exciting will it be to follow Meribald and Dog around next season?





Brining her in means she does nothing for a good chunk of the story. All you do is piss of a good amount of people who think she's going to do something bad ass and doesn't. It comes across as nothing more than shock for shock's sake. Not to mention it gives her enough time to become a legend in the Riverlands. She doesn't even hardly get revenge but mostly kills innocent people. Her character is tied to Brienne and her vows.



Not that I believe they'll be bringing her in. You can't have Cat without the BwB, and that's a lot of actors you have to keep hidden.


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Bringing in Stoneheart now is pointless. It's 15 or more episodes too late. The whole 'Avenge the Starks, Kill the Freys' storyline is too late in the game, unless it's a nod to bookreaders....an appeasement of sorts. The only Frey we've had in the story since the Red Wedding has been Walda, and no-one wants her dead except Ramsay. It would have been a nice twist in season 4, but the chess pieces have been placed. Winter is almost here, the Walkers are out and about, the dragons are getting big enough to carry riders. Meereen and Winterfell battles may be pushed back 'til next season, leaving little time to explore the Riverlands. People have been complaining about the lack of pace and entertaining storylines this season...how exciting will it be to follow Meribald and Dog around next season?

Walda Frey did an interview sometime back where he confirmed he is coming back for Season 6....

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Bringing in Stoneheart now is pointless. It's 15 or more episodes too late. The whole 'Avenge the Starks, Kill the Freys' storyline is too late in the game, unless it's a nod to bookreaders....an appeasement of sorts. The only Frey we've had in the story since the Red Wedding has been Walda, and no-one wants her dead except Ramsay. It would have been a nice twist in season 4, but the chess pieces have been placed. Winter is almost here, the Walkers are out and about, the dragons are getting big enough to carry riders. Meereen and Winterfell battles may be pushed back 'til next season, leaving little time to explore the Riverlands. People have been complaining about the lack of pace and entertaining storylines this season...how exciting will it be to follow Meribald and Dog around next season?

Completely disagree. Both characters, readers and watchers alike all clamor for revenge after the Red Wedding. It's not forgotten.

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Tywin's dead, Cersei and Roose are being dealt with in other sections. If killing random Freys is all we wanted out of Lady Stoneheart then there really wasn't reason not to do her in S4 or S5.


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I guess the speculation suggesting that Jon would be stabbed by the mutineers in episode 9 is wrong considering the synopsis of the tenth episode.



My own predictions for Mother's Mercy:


1. Cersei and the Walk of Shame will occur in this episode


2. Sansa and Theon will escape with the help of Brienne and Pod. and maybe join up with Stannis?


3. Ramsay will send the Pink Letter to Jon at Castle Black, demand his bride and "Reek" back or the Night's Watch would be destroyed.


4. The Battle of Winterfell will end in a cliffhanger


5. Daenerys will ride on Drogon and come across the Dothraki Khalassar


6. Jon will get stabbed by Olly, Alister Thorne, Bowen Marsh and maybe Edd


7. Arya will become No One


8. Sam will head down to Oldtown with Gilly and "little" Sam to escape the tension brewing at the Watch


9. Jaime will stay in Dorne to help Myrcella, ignoring Cersei's call to help.


10. Small hint of the Kingsmoot next season with set up for introduction of Euron - finally maybe the death of Balon Greyjoy?


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Lmao, D & D are really good at trolling you guys. :lmao: Here we have everyone thinking LSH is going to appear again, only to have the rug pulled right under their feet cause the title means Cersei's confession & walk. Hahaha


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I just read about this in Vanity Fair. They even mentioned the quickly pulled IMDB listing of Michelle Fairley as "Hooded Woman" in episode 10 and the prosthetic Catelyn head.

Why on earth would they need a prosthetic Catelyn head...as far as I remember, hers is still attached.

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They would make mouldings of her head to develop facial prosthetics to fit her - for example a piece of rotting flesh fitting around one side of he face, or whatever is required.



It's not uncommon for actors having mo-cap/CG or heavy prosthetics work to first have latex head casts done.



My personal feeling is that this piece was developed for the Red Wedding throat slash scene, however. She obviously had a prosthetic application fitted to her throat all primed to spurt.



P.S: Doesn't matter anyway. She be comin', unbelievers, and Roose is all set for her noose! (~ And am I the only one making the connection with him relating a lengthy anecdote to Ramsay about hanging some poor miller from a tree this season so he could have his way with his wife? Karma, people ... :ack: )


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While LSH could be in, I think they would have at least mentioned something after the RW. For instance, in that Walder/Roose scene they could have mentioned throwing her body in the river to mock the Tully family traditions.


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While LSH could be in, I think they would have at least mentioned something after the RW. For instance, in that Walder/Roose scene they could have mentioned throwing her body in the river to mock the Tully family traditions.

They could have, but they might be going the R+L=J route: stalling the foreshadowing so it is closer to the actual reveal.

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