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Jorah touching people while he has Greyscale?


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The hand touching certainly wasn't a production error, it was clearly meant to be seen and for the audience to speculate as to whether he just gave Daenerys greyscale.

Jorah is exactly the type who would touch her even though it might infect her. That was the whole point Tyrion made when Daenerys decided to banish him again. Jorah doesn't want what's best for Daenerys, he just wants her for himself. He probably deluded himself into thinking it isn't contagious, or is only if he touches her with the infected part, and in that way there is a nice resonant theme with what we saw from Stannis earlier in the episode.

Agree. Also in the previous episode when he had just been escorted out of the city and he stopped and looked at his infected arm I had the feeling he wanted to spread it. If his love for Dany was a genuine unselfish love he would stay the hell away from her now.

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Agree. Also in the previous episode when he had just been escorted out of the city and he stopped and looked at his infected arm I had the feeling he wanted to spread it. If his love for Dany was a genuine unselfish love he would stay the hell away from her now.

I disagree. Book

He's taking Griff's place in the show, he will make helping Dany take the IT his final priority. As long as he doesn't still think there's a chance of a romantic relationship I'm fine with him being at her side.

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I disagree. Book

He's taking Griff's place in the show, he will make helping Dany take the IT his final priority. As long as he doesn't still think there's a chance of a romantic relationship I'm fine with him being at her side.

Yeah, I don't know. I'm not married to the idea of Jorah intentionally spreading it, I just had a weird reaction to him looking at his arm at that moment and thinking he might be vengeful. Unsullied husband just took it as a sign that Jorah knows his time is limited making the need to get back to Dany all the more pressing,with no vengeful motive whatsoever.

I do believe it is selfish for him to want to get close to Dany again, even as just an advisor/protector when he has an infectious disease that he knows is a death sentence. If he wants her to conquer and rule Westeros why take the risk?

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Yeah, I don't know. I'm not married to the idea of Jorah intentionally spreading it, I just had a weird reaction to him looking at his arm at that moment and thinking he might be vengeful. Unsullied husband just took it as a sign that Jorah knows his time is limited making the need to get back to Dany all the more pressing,with no vengeful motive whatsoever.

I do believe it is selfish for him to want to get close to Dany again, even as just an advisor/protector when he has an infectious disease that he knows is a death sentence. If he wants her to conquer and rule Westeros why take the risk?

Fair enough.

Trust me I was plenty pissed off about D&D giving him GS in the first place.

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Tyrion and Dany contracting greyscale from contact with Jorah would be like a blessing from the Old Gods - probably not going to happen, but if it did, I would be smiling. Even just 1 of them would be enough.

If Dany has it and she touched Drogon at the end, Drogon might get it and become the Stone Dragon?

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I agree with the general idea you have to touch the flaky skin or get flakes from the skin to touch you (perhaps how Shireen caught it from a doll's clothing).



Jorah has a teeny tiny bit of it, and he's been keeping it covered.



The stone men who attacked them were COVERED in it, so a tiny touch would be highly contagious.


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Moronic and inconsistent... LMAO! More like brilliant!

Be patient... The dots will all be connected eventually

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They connect plenty of dots (unless they forget to) but when they do, half the time it doesn't make sense. The show has the inherent problem of trying to hit GRRM's major plot points, but changing how they got to them. It makes their actions either forced or nonsensical, because they took the characters and story in their own directions, often radically different from the books, but then force them into the same resolutions. The plot points happened the way they did in the books based on huge, carefully orchestrated buildups. In the show, they shoehorn these things in all the time, whether or not the story organically led there or not. Which results in characters motivations not making sense. Also, whenever they're criticized for a silly adaptative change, they always fall back on the time/budget excuse, but I (and many others) aren't buying it because they spend half their screentime on fluff, or scenes and characters of their own invention.

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No. It's just something Viserys told Dany IIRC. Plenty of Targs died in the spring sickness though, so we know it's not true.

There's more than that.

Chapter 34, ADWD:

"I am the blood of the dragon," Dany reminded him. "Have you ever seen a dragon with the flux?" Viserys had oft claimed that Targaryens were untroubled by the pestilences that afflicted common men, and so far as she could tell, it was true. She could remember being cold and hungry and afraid, but never sick.

And then she goes out and personally feeds the plague victims, against everybody's advice, and nothing comes of it.

If the Targaryens have some kind of immunity to disease, perhaps it's stronger now, when magic is stronger everywhere. Perhaps it's limited. But we only know 3 Targaryens in the series: 1 who has never been sick, 1 who lived to 102, and one who wasn't smart enough to die a natural death, but presumably was also never sick or else Dany would've remembered it. Sounds to me like there's a there there.

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It could make sense if he knows he's contagious. He's been exiled by her twice now. He knows she doesn't love him and he knows he's going to die. Maybe he's doing this intentionally.

I think they just made an unintentionally meta point: the Nice Guy who is in love with the beautiful young hottie, is really completely selfish and for his own gratification would infect her with incurable magical leprosy.

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That we know of so far. The fact he landed in Westeros with greyscale means that theres a chance hes gonna spread it. Intentionally or not.

JonCon has been in a ship for two months with many other people who look healthy now. That's a close enviroment that is very suitable to spread any disease and it hasn't happened. I have the feeling his type of greyscale is only transmitted by the original virus/whatever, not person to person.

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JonCon has been in a ship for two months with many other people who look healthy now. That's a close enviroment that is very suitable to spread any disease and it hasn't happened. I have the feeling his type of greyscale is only transmitted by the original virus/whatever, not person to person.

Of course, JonCon also keeps his own company, and wears gloves. Plus, he doesn't seem like a touchy-feely kind of guy, so I imagine contact is fairly minimal.

The other thing is though that Book!GS seems to be understood much better. They 'know' for example, that children will survive it but adults do not. Show!GS doesn't seem to be well understood. Show!GS would appear to be a death sentence for anyone, with Shireen being the only survivor.

It does seem strange though that Jorah keeps touching people. Unless he knows for certain that he can't pass it on, he shouldn't be touching anyone, let alone the woman he loves. Mind you, I'm still tryig to get over the fact that the slaver who bought him didn't give Jorah a full-body inspection, considering that Jorah was going to be a pit fighter.

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I think the greyscale is not in its communicable stage yet, unless someone has direct contact with the infected area.

Although I will say that it would be an absolutely phenomenal plot twist if Tyrion and Dany both got greyscale and along with Jorah spread it throughout Westeros. The 'heroic' characters who are on the path of taking Westeros from the villains who currently occupy it, ending up causing way more damage to everyone then the villains ever could - that is subversive and entirely awesome.

But I don't think that will happen, even in GoT. Likeliest scenario is that the disease isn't communicable yet.

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I'm holding out hope for dragon fire as a cure for Gray Scale.



Since "Maesters say its progress could be stayed by limes, mustard poultices, and scalding-hot baths" it's possible a touch or three of dragon fire might be effective. If a person were lucky, the scaly bits would roast off and the freshly burned skin might even be coaxed into healing into a more attractive fresh layer of skin.


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dbunting, on 08 Jun 2015 - 5:20 PM, said:snapback.png




I noticed the touch of Dany, she seems to grab him right on the forearm where the grey scale is located as he lowers her into the pit. Will this replace her bloody flux miscarriage she seems to have while walking in the Dothraki sea?





I've edited the question. Based on that, the answer is no. ;)





Dany doesn't have a miscarriage she has her period for the first time for ages. Getting her period for the first time since Drogo is a signal that she is probably fertile again- it is a huge event! That is why she is surprised rather than sad or relieved.


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