aFeastForDragons Posted June 8, 2015 Share Posted June 8, 2015 I'm going to stop watching until the books come out. The show isn't even enjoyable anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eldric Storm Posted June 8, 2015 Share Posted June 8, 2015 Never thought I'd say this, but I'm rooting for Bolton now in the upcoming battle. Stannis deserves to lose after that. I'm disappointed in Davos too. He had to know what was coming but didn't do anything. I was hoping he'd defy orders and take Shireen with him. I can't even believe his men took those orders. If I was one of his bannermen, a resounding "f you" would follow if you asked my men to do that. Even Selysse couldn't stand to do it despite all her zeal, and it gave you a fleeting moment of hope that literally went up in flames all too quickly. On the opposite side of the spectrum the Mereen scenes were awesome. Jorah seems to have earned Dany's trust, at least partially, again. He saved her life and it was a tender moment when she took his hand, even if that's all he's likely to get from her. Daario trusting Jorah just like that was nice too. And Drogon coming to the rescue was just awesome. We've been waiting five years for this after all and seeing him in action was great. One small nitpick though... with all those spikes on his back, though they make convenient handles, wouldn't have Dany impaled herself? Anyways, what sort of screwed up alternate universe are we in that I'm disgusted with the Stannis scene and the Dany scene left me pumped? As for where we go from here, it seems the finale's going to end with Cersei's walk of shame and "For the Watch." As things stand we're pretty much caught up with all the book material, even ahead in some places. as long as you realize that the books and shows are two different creatures... Davos isn't even at the wall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 8, 2015 Share Posted June 8, 2015 I think stannis genuinely loves his daughter but he is bound more my duty. I still hold he does not want the iron throne but only seeks it because that's what's right and just. He was roberts next in line. I think Shireen is just a tragic victim of stannis seeking the greater "just" cause.I will admit I was shocked that she was burned and wished he would have stopped it for sure. But stannis is a do things Bc they need to be done. Not for enjoyment or grief.Shocking turn for sure but I understand enough of his character to kind of go ....yeah I get it.I agree. In his mind he is doing a cold equation, he's holding one life up against the rest of the realm and measuring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kinkslayer Posted June 8, 2015 Share Posted June 8, 2015 Again, what did burning a King himself get them? Leeches get you 3 dead kings, burning a king alive gets you?? And now let's burn Shireen because it's cold and we are hungry. 2 dead kings, Balon Grejoy is still pretty much alive Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Welease Woger Posted June 8, 2015 Share Posted June 8, 2015 I can't believe someone would think that burning Shireen is out of character for Stannis. Stannis believes that he is Azor Ahai reborn. Azor Ahai sacrificed Nissa Nissa in order to forge Lightbringer. Stannis knew that and he was willing to kill Edric Storm/Gendry all the same, because he believes that the sacrifice of one innocent is needed to fight the Great Other. This is the true Stannis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kraken1111 Posted June 8, 2015 Share Posted June 8, 2015 Was anyone else haunted by her screams...? wtf man Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kraken1111 Posted June 8, 2015 Share Posted June 8, 2015 Im sorry... this show has completely jumped the shark in different senses.. ... so they make Stannis a sympathetic Character in one scene with the sweetest little girl ever.. only to build it up so he can burn her alive? practically on screen.. are you kidding me?! Imagine he exiled Mel and made the right choice.. we would have someone to root for next week in the Winterfell showdown.. now its just two hated sides fighting against eachother.. what fun is there in that.. The Fighting pits would also have been better if we hadn't heard the screams of a little girl incinerating prior.. everything was secondary after that horrible sequence.. I understand that this is GOT and bad things happen even to good people.. but sometimes stories need to have Justice and Good people succeeding.. I dont want to watch something that constantly depresses me... over and over... but thats just me ..personally.. anyone agree? It was his ONLY HEIR!!!!!!!!! D & D's arrogance is mindnumbing... oh and Jon doesnt even mention to his fellow Watchmen that an army is coming and he just witnessed some serious stuff? i need to slam my head against a wall.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kraken1111 Posted June 8, 2015 Share Posted June 8, 2015 Im sorry... this show has completely jumped the shark in different senses.. ... so they make Stannis a sympathetic Character in one scene with the sweetest little girl ever.. only to build it up so he can burn her alive? practically on screen.. are you kidding me?! Imagine he exiled Mel and made the right choice.. we would have someone to root for next week in the Winterfell showdown.. now its just two hated sides fighting against eachother.. what fun is there in that.. The Fighting pits would also have been better if we hadn't heard the screams of a little girl incinerating prior.. everything was secondary after that horrible sequence.. I understand that this is GOT and bad things happen even to good people.. but sometimes stories need to have Justice and Good people succeeding.. I dont want to watch something that constantly depresses me... over and over... but thats just me ..personally.. anyone agree? It was his ONLY HEIR!!!!!!!!! D & D's arrogance is mindnumbing... oh and Jon doesnt even mention to his fellow Watchmen that an army is coming and he just witnessed some serious stuff? i need to slam my head against a wall.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kraken1111 Posted June 8, 2015 Share Posted June 8, 2015 sorry about the multiple posts! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bran's Legs Posted June 8, 2015 Share Posted June 8, 2015 I think stannis genuinely loves his daughter but he is bound more my duty. I still hold he does not want the iron throne but only seeks it because that's what's right and just. He was roberts next in line. I think Shireen is just a tragic victim of stannis seeking the greater "just" cause.I will admit I was shocked that she was burned and wished he would have stopped it for sure. But stannis is a do things Bc they need to be done. Not for enjoyment or grief.Shocking turn for sure but I understand enough of his character to kind of go ....yeah I get it.What Stannis did has nothing to do with "duty." It was the act of a monster fueled by blind ambition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grail King Posted June 8, 2015 Share Posted June 8, 2015 folks, if the net is funky, wait a few seconds and just reload page, or hit ctrl+R cuts down the double or multi post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grail King Posted June 8, 2015 Share Posted June 8, 2015 sorry about the multiple posts! do what I do, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~DarkHorse~ Posted June 8, 2015 Share Posted June 8, 2015 What Stannis did was irredeemable. He didn't even kill her to save Westeros, he killed her to win a battle. If Stannis does knowingly kill her in the books then I doubt it will be for such a weak reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mish Windage Posted June 8, 2015 Share Posted June 8, 2015 I'd have been happy if Ghost showed up out of nowhere and knocked her off the stake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northernmonkey Posted June 8, 2015 Share Posted June 8, 2015 I'm going to stop watching until the books come out. The show isn't even enjoyable anymore. I'm going to hold you to that. I better not see you around here any time soon :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotman74 Posted June 8, 2015 Share Posted June 8, 2015 People who know Bran and Rickon are alive: Sam Jon(well hell he saw Shaggy and Summer) Gilly Roose Ramsay Sansa Theon YOU FORGOT HODOR. How could you? Oh and Osha, Meera, and by now, Actual Cannibal Shia Labouef of Skagos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faceless She-wolf Posted June 8, 2015 Share Posted June 8, 2015 I think we all know that Olly being the snarky little knob that he is is going to be the one to "kill" Jon at the end of ep 10, and it will most likely be the last scene of the episode. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie Lannister Posted June 8, 2015 Share Posted June 8, 2015 Never thought I'd say this, but I'm rooting for Bolton now in the upcoming battle. I'm with you. Taking Stannis from a hard-to-like, divisive, yet ultimately grey character to just another entirely unsympathetic bad guy is lame. Roose or Ramsay doing their thing would be a mercy killing; D&D have mangled this character. I don't really buy that George saw Shireen's burning going down this way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric_20 Posted June 8, 2015 Share Posted June 8, 2015 why are people actually surprised in Shireen dying? it was hinted in earlier seasons and in the books. Even George hinted this was going to happen in the future books Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotcat Posted June 8, 2015 Share Posted June 8, 2015 The saddest part of the whole Shireen thing is that Stannis believes - or he gives the appearance of believing - it's for the best. Namely, the survival of the Realm. He's sacrificed a brother & was willing to (at the very least, he was willing to consider) sacrifice a nephew to achieve his goals. Depending on how you choose to look at it, he's either a complete megalomaniac or he's the only one willing to do what's needed. And, whatever else you may take from the whole Shireen burning, he had the balls to come out of his tent and watch his daughter die - he wasn't being cowardly and off hiding somewhere, he made the decision and saw it through to its conclusion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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