Lord Bored Posted June 8, 2015 Share Posted June 8, 2015 So it's pretty safe to say that Shireen's death was the final nail in the coffin as far as his loyalty to Stannis. What do we see happening with him going forward into Season 6, assuming he does in fact turn against Stannis? I think it's possible we might still get to see his book mission, albeit a significantly tweaked version. Perhaps he is sent to retrieve Bran by Sam (in honor to order Jon, assuming the latter gets stabbed by next week's finale). Along the way, he obtains the Umbers support somehow (word might have already gotten around that they're sheltering Rickon), and Rickon and Osha both join him on his journey. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ErasmusF Posted June 8, 2015 Share Posted June 8, 2015 Stannis won't let him go as a free man. In the book his son is a loyal LoL supporter, so I think he takes the Black and leaves his lands to his remaining sons (assuming this happens as some approximation in the books). Hopefully the same in the show. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colonel Green Posted June 8, 2015 Share Posted June 8, 2015 I think it's possible we might still get to see his book mission, albeit a significantly tweaked version. Perhaps he is sent to retrieve Bran by Sam (in honor to order Jon, assuming the latter gets stabbed by next week's finale). Along the way, he obtains the Umbers support somehow (word might have already gotten around that they're sheltering Rickon), and Rickon and Osha both join him on his journey. I think it's more likely that he's sent by Sansa. Davos is going to the Wall, and I'm pretty sure that the point of Ramsay telling her about Jon's promotion was to make that her first destination after escaping Winterfell (where she will most likely arrive to find Jon dead, necessitating other plans, particularly when Littlefinger arrives in the North next year) -- and she now knows her brothers are alive. This would put her and the probably-disillusioned Davos in the same place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbunting Posted June 8, 2015 Share Posted June 8, 2015 Yeah, Davos is now relatively close to a few people who know Rickon and Bran are alive. They could go either way with his story line. Personally if Davos goes back to Stannis after what he did to Shireen I will be shocked. Maybe he shows up at Winterfell after the battle and Sansa / Stannis ask him to go find Rickon and Davos sees this as honorable act. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
missingm Posted June 8, 2015 Share Posted June 8, 2015 Stannis won't let him go as a free man. In the book his son is a loyal LoL supporter, so I think he takes the Black and leaves his lands to his remaining sons (assuming this happens as some approximation in the books). Hopefully the same in the show. I think that the scroll Stannis sent him to deliver will commit him to the Black. Davos will immediately know what that means. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ser Wun Wun Posted June 8, 2015 Share Posted June 8, 2015 Hard to imagine the bromance surviving this. But you never know with D&D, they butcher characterization all the time. Just like with Stannis, all of Davos's heartfelt moments with Shireen may just be cast to the wind as though they have no bearing on his decision making. I think it's more likely that he's sent by Sansa. Davos is going to the Wall, and I'm pretty sure that the point of Ramsay telling her about Jon's promotion was to make that her first destination after escaping Winterfell (where she will most likely arrive to find Jon dead, necessitating other plans, particularly when Littlefinger arrives in the North next year) -- and she now knows her brothers are alive. This would put her and the probably-disillusioned Davos in the same place. I would like to see it happen that way, it makes a lot of sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leglasgreenleaf Posted June 8, 2015 Share Posted June 8, 2015 For all the events in the episode, that was what I found most intriguing to be honest. As much as I dislike the show and more often than not end up pulling my hair, I still watch it for certain characters, Davos and Barristan are/were two. I don't know if he will turn against Stannis to be honest. He is too loyal for that, even after what Stannis did, which will definitely ruin Stannis for Davos. He had held stannis in the highest regards but Stannis' follies are making it hard for anyone to like him, but no, Davos won't turn, he will blame Mel and her God as usual and try to left his king out of the deep hole he is burying himself in. I am more inclined to agree that the Davos story will be linked to the Starks in the show, particularly Sansa. I was expecting Stannis to send Mel back with his family, in anticipation of Mel's role in the 2nd Black Mutiny and the things to come after. Davos will learn about Rickon from Theon and Sansa after their escape from Winterfell. They will meet on the road, I think, both of them heading north. Rickon is at the Last Harth, which is also north. Will Theon, Davos and Sansa have a merry meeting there, accompanied by Sansa's new Swornsword, the Beautiful Lady of Tarth, who learning of Sansa's escape follows her, and finds her and lays Oathkeeper/Ice at Sansa's feet? OR, will Sansa and Theon be making for Castleblack anyway, Sansa escaping to the only family she has left. She doesn't know where her little brothers are, she knows that they are alive, but she knows where to find her half-brother, so that's where she goes with Theon and Brienne. When they get to castle black, Davos, Sansa, Theon and Brienne,*next season*, they will find that the 2nd Black Mutiny took place and will find Jon in Ghost... We still need a reason for Jon to go south, we don't have one yet, due to the absence of the pink letter... So could avenging Sansa be the reason that drives Jon south? Or will indeed be a pink letter when our group makes it to Castleblack demanding the return of Sansa an Reek... and we know what happens after Jon receives the letter... I don't know... just my thoughts and I thought I would throw them out here..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Lannister Posted June 8, 2015 Share Posted June 8, 2015 Yeah, I figured Stannis sending Davos away was pretty much so he wouldn't have to be party to Shireen's burning. Davos is in a bad situation, as much as I can't see him betraying Stannis I can't see him letting this pass either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
artihcus022 Posted June 8, 2015 Share Posted June 8, 2015 I think they will send him to find Rickon. Stannis is not long for this world anyway. Brienne is going to kill him and Winterfell will explode in an earth-shattering kaboom. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Udvarnoky Posted June 8, 2015 Share Posted June 8, 2015 It may be awhile before Davos is even in a position to know what happened to Shireen. I suspect that upon arriving at the Wall, something occurs that keeps him there, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SerJeremiahLouistark Posted June 8, 2015 Share Posted June 8, 2015 He tried to kill Mel after returning from the Blackwater. He isn't gonna be like "sweet did yall at least save her charred body for some food bros?" Davos is gonna lose it. Maybe Brienne and Pod come across Sansa, she sends them to find Bran and Rickon, they come across Davos who joins them in their quest.... Hell who knows at this point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stannis Eats No Peaches Posted June 8, 2015 Share Posted June 8, 2015 I have no idea what he's going to do. I don't see him backing Stannis after this (who'd have thought that day would ever come?), but what else is there to do? Take the black? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tagganaro Posted June 8, 2015 Share Posted June 8, 2015 It may be awhile before Davos is even in a position to know what happened to Shireen. I suspect that upon arriving at the Wall, something occurs that keeps him there, He tried to kill Mel after returning from the Blackwater. He isn't gonna be like "sweet did yall at least save her charred body for some food bros?" Davos is gonna lose it. Maybe Brienne and Pod come across Sansa, she sends them to find Bran and Rickon, they come across Davos who joins them in their quest....Hell who knows at this point.It seemed kind of clear to me Davos knew exactly what was gonna happen when he left. I don't think he'll be surprised that Shireen was burned, that's why he made that last-ditch effort to ask Stannis to send her back with him to the Wall. I think we're gonna get Davos still going to Skaagos for Rickon. Only Sansa will send him instead of Manderley. Why he goes I have no idea? I can't really see him turning on Stannis so it's tough to say how they will get there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kimim Posted June 8, 2015 Share Posted June 8, 2015 He tried to kill Mel after returning from the Blackwater. He isn't gonna be like "sweet did yall at least save her charred body for some food bros?" Davos is gonna lose it. Maybe Brienne and Pod come across Sansa, she sends them to find Bran and Rickon, they come across Davos who joins them in their quest....Hell who knows at this point.I agree, he's going to lose it, and he's going to turn against Stannis. He might even be the one to kill him, idk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colonel Green Posted June 8, 2015 Share Posted June 8, 2015 It seemed kind of clear to me Davos knew exactly what was gonna happen when he left. I don't think he'll be surprised that Shireen was burned, that's why he made that last-ditch effort to ask Stannis to send her back with him to the Wall. I think Davos was uneasy about it on some level, but I don't think he knew exactly what was going to happen on a conscious level -- if he was, there's no way he would have gone that quietly. He went to extraordinary lengths to save Gendry, setting him free even at risk of forfeiting his own life, and he didn't even know Gendry; he would never just abandon Shireen to being burned alive after a couple of indirect verbal attempts to take her with him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robb_Warged Posted June 8, 2015 Share Posted June 8, 2015 With where he was in ADWD (ADWD spoilers), I'm guessing he's joining Team Rickon I think Davos was uneasy about it on some level, but I don't think he knew exactly what was going to happen on a conscious level -- if he was, there's no way he would have gone that quietly.Yeah exactly. Remember the fuss he gave over Stannis' considering sacrificing Gendry? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hallam Posted June 8, 2015 Share Posted June 8, 2015 Yeah, Davos is now relatively close to a few people who know Rickon and Bran are alive. They could go either way with his story line. Personally if Davos goes back to Stannis after what he did to Shireen I will be shocked. Maybe he shows up at Winterfell after the battle and Sansa / Stannis ask him to go find Rickon and Davos sees this as honorable act. Davos knows what is going to happen to Shireen and why he is being sent to Castle Black. Question is whether he can do anything to stop it. Its ironic that Jon is getting his Ceasar moment while folk are lining up to do the same to Stannis. Besides Brienne and the Boltons we have Sylese and Davos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SerJeremiahLouistark Posted June 8, 2015 Share Posted June 8, 2015 It seemed kind of clear to me Davos knew exactly what was gonna happen when he left. I don't think he'll be surprised that Shireen was burned, that's why he made that last-ditch effort to ask Stannis to send her back with him to the Wall. I think we're gonna get Davos still going to Skaagos for Rickon. Only Sansa will send him instead of Manderley. Why he goes I have no idea? I can't really see him turning on Stannis so it's tough to say how they will get there.I agree he had an idea, but he has so much faith in Stannis' honor (although after everything Stannis has done he is a fool to have faith in him) that he probably thought there is no way Stannis would do this to his only heir and daughter he loved so much. Maybe he thought they would simply leech her. Hell he didn't even know Gendry and he got him the hell out of dodge. Had he known Shireen was gonna be burned alive I get the feeling he would have kidnapped her, I almost for a minute thought he was right before he gave her the stag. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dany's Golden Fleece Posted June 8, 2015 Share Posted June 8, 2015 It seemed kind of clear to me Davos knew exactly what was gonna happen when he left. I don't think he'll be surprised that Shireen was burned, that's why he made that last-ditch effort to ask Stannis to send her back with him to the Wall. I think we're gonna get Davos still going to Skaagos for Rickon. Only Sansa will send him instead of Manderley. Why he goes I have no idea? I can't really see him turning on Stannis so it's tough to say how they will get there. But why? The only reason in the books for Davos to try and get Rickon is to stablise the North for Stannis. That's out of the window. Why should Davos care about the North, otherwise, he has no loyalty to the Starks? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ser Eric Posted June 8, 2015 Share Posted June 8, 2015 Davos has been pretty much pointless this season. He'll probably become part of Team Jon. His best chapters were in DwD and that's been cut. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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