Colonel Green Posted June 8, 2015 Share Posted June 8, 2015 But why? The only reason in the books for Davos to try and get Rickon is to stablise the North for Stannis. That's out of the window. Why should Davos care about the North, otherwise, he has no loyalty to the Starks? I imagine because he's a good guy at heart -- and he'll probably be shattered if he finds out what Stannis did; a worthy cause would salve his soul a bit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kimim Posted June 8, 2015 Share Posted June 8, 2015 But why? The only reason in the books for Davos to try and get Rickon is to stablise the North for Stannis. That's out of the window. Why should Davos care about the North, otherwise, he has no loyalty to the Starks? Because he's seen massive amounts of injustice. He's gotten used to fighting for a cause. He could return home to his wife and kids, in which case he'd be turning against the game, like Sandor. He could serve Sansa in the name of what is right, the way he served Stannis. He could devote his life to destroying Mel, as I think he'll blame Mel even more than he blames Stannis. idk which way he'll go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
libertylanding Posted June 8, 2015 Share Posted June 8, 2015 Almost everything in GoT is done for a reason (we're learning). There isn't enough screen time for wasted useless shots. We were given a touching, loving scene between Davos and Shireen right before her burning. He gives her a gift, thanks her for all the help she's given him (in a speech where he also effectively likens her to a daughter -- pointing out that he never let his son teach him to read), she kisses him on the cheek. Their relationship is tender, touching. This was not filler: it's to set us up for the reaction in the next episode (or season). This news will hurt Davos, badly, deeply. Think about that: he loved this girl like a daughter, just like he loved his own son. His son died for Stannis, and now Stannis has taken the girl he loved like his own daughter from him in this monstrous and inhumane way. It is abominable and hurtful in itself, and worse, it means Davos' son died for the cause of a monster. Davos WILL NOT go back into Stannis' service. I don't know what will happen, and I suspect he has dark days ahead, but he will never see Stannis again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shitmouth the Wise Posted June 8, 2015 Share Posted June 8, 2015 At the end of Season 2 (after Blackwater, when she shows him the vision in the flames) Melisandre tells Stannis something to the effect of "This war has just begun....you will betray the man most loyal to you". If the show plans on following through on that prophecy, I'm wondering if this is that betrayal? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Masha Posted June 8, 2015 Share Posted June 8, 2015 I think Davos would find out what happened to Shireen next episode but not sure if he would be able to do anything because FTW would be happening or some other crisis. And he will be like, Stannis did WHAAT, and the crisis and shock - season end. The full reaction time - leave Stannis (if Stannis is even alive next season), take the Black, go for Rickon - will happen next season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kimim Posted June 8, 2015 Share Posted June 8, 2015 I think Davos would find out what happened to Shireen next episode but not sure if he would be able to do anything because FTW would be happening or some other crisis. And he will be like, Stannis did WHAAT, and the crisis and shock - season end. The full reaction time - leave Stannis (if Stannis is even alive next season), take the Black, go for Rickon - will happen next season I agree that he'll turn against Stannis, but why would he take the black? He has a wife he loves. He has the land Stannis gave them. He has kids. His taking the black=betraying all of them, and I don't see him doing that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Welease Woger Posted June 8, 2015 Share Posted June 8, 2015 Davos could be an additional victim of FTW. Since there's no going back for Stannis now, either he will follow a different sidestory or die. And, well, he will be in a very dangerous place in the next episode.If he survives, the possibility that seems most intriguing for me is offering his services for Sansa Stark. I doubt that he will take the black after the Ides of Ollie.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colonel Green Posted June 8, 2015 Share Posted June 8, 2015 He has kids. Not on the show. He had only one son. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tharvot Posted June 8, 2015 Share Posted June 8, 2015 Almost everything in GoT is done for a reason (we're learning). There isn't enough screen time for wasted useless shots. We were given a touching, loving scene between Davos and Shireen right before her burning. He gives her a gift, thanks her for all the help she's given him (in a speech where he also effectively likens her to a daughter -- pointing out that he never let his son teach him to read), she kisses him on the cheek. Their relationship is tender, touching. This was not filler: it's to set us up for the reaction in the next episode (or season). This news will hurt Davos, badly, deeply. Think about that: he loved this girl like a daughter, just like he loved his own son. His son died for Stannis, and now Stannis has taken the girl he loved like his own daughter from him in this monstrous and inhumane way. It is abominable and hurtful in itself, and worse, it means Davos' son died for the cause of a monster. Davos WILL NOT go back into Stannis' service. I don't know what will happen, and I suspect he has dark days ahead, but he will never see Stannis again. I agree. There's a 0% chance Davos is cool with what happened to Shireen. He is going to snap. What exactly he can do is a giant mystery since it's entirely likely he will arrive at Castle Black to find a dead or dying Jon. Running off on a quest to find Rickon is possible...outside of that, I have no idea what he might do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kimim Posted June 8, 2015 Share Posted June 8, 2015 I thought he had several sons, and a wife, and lands. Even without those, he has no reason to take the black. First, he's almost certainly going to witness "for the watch," and it's unlikely that he'll be willing to become part of the watch after that. He doesn't have to take the black to fight the white walkers, or serve Sansa, or to go after Mel. EDIT: I guess that he's a traitor for serving Stannis, but Davos doesn't see it that way. Even if he kills Stannis, as far as Davos (and reality) is concerned, Stannis is the rightful king. Lannisters, the ones most likely to want him dead, are folding. Again, he has no reason to take the black...no immediate reason, anyway. It'll take time for the Lannisters to make it back from where they are now, so he might take the black in the future. Problem is, the Wall is falling. There might not be a night watch to join, in the very near future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
missingm Posted June 8, 2015 Share Posted June 8, 2015 I agree. There's a 0% chance Davos is cool with what happened to Shireen. He is going to snap. What exactly he can do is a giant mystery since it's entirely likely he will arrive at Castle Black to find a dead or dying Jon. Running off on a quest to find Rickon is possible...outside of that, I have no idea what he might do. He is probably going to be feeling a LOT of guilt when he finds out. Shireen wouldn't have been burned if he didn't help Gentry escape. I am sure that Mel and Stannis wouldn't let him forget that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grail King Posted June 8, 2015 Share Posted June 8, 2015 I think he will switch to the Starks, along with Brienne and Pod, how long each live though is up for grabs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dogprivilege Posted June 8, 2015 Share Posted June 8, 2015 Yep, I think he's gonna help Sansa (along with Brienne and Pod) with the Stark restoration, all in anticipation of LF leading the Vale North. Or maybe Sam will send him (or tell him at least, after FTW), and Davos will meet them in the middle somehow with Rickon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baron Bazunor the Twisted Posted June 8, 2015 Share Posted June 8, 2015 Stannis won't let him go as a free man. In the book his son is a loyal LoL supporter, so I think he takes the Black and leaves his lands to his remaining sons (assuming this happens as some approximation in the books). Hopefully the same in the show. Was going to read the comments but got to yours and immediately agree'd.Hope this happens, Davos is my #1 favorite character book and show, and I would hate to see Stannis kill him next. I'd probably actually be one of those forum-bitchers if that happened.Let him serve Jon Snow. Tag Brienne in that, and Jon has a damn good team. :drool: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astromech Posted June 8, 2015 Share Posted June 8, 2015 I would love to see Davos take out Wormtongue, errrr, Melisandre. He blames her for all of Stannis' actions and will see Melisandre as the culprit in Shireen's burning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twenty of House Goodmen Posted June 8, 2015 Share Posted June 8, 2015 The thought of Davos jumping on to team Stark. Just...ugh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kimim Posted June 8, 2015 Share Posted June 8, 2015 I would love to see Davos take out Wormtongue, errrr, Melisandre. He blames her for all of Stannis' actions and will see Melisandre as the culprit in Shireen's burning. ...or Stannis could conveniently die in battle, leaving Davos free to go after Mel. This is probably what will happen in the novels, too. I don't see Stannis burning Shireen. Mel might burn her to save Stannis, though, which means Davos will go after her. Maybe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grail King Posted June 8, 2015 Share Posted June 8, 2015 The thought of Davos jumping on to team Stark. Just...ugh. Tell us why not? These are young kids who lost both parents and each are under the wings of dubious people, they are learning different aspects of survival but; they could use a grounded person to show them how to use it. And he's actively looking for Rickon, so if the TV show plays out that Stannis gave an ok in a letter to the Red Witch he may just jump ship. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Follmann Posted June 8, 2015 Share Posted June 8, 2015 Well, Liam said that:"...He doesn’t want to be looking in Davos’s eyes when he tries to do it, because he won’t be able to go through with it. I do not find out what actually happens to Shireen until the final episode."source: http://winteriscoming.net/2015/06/08/liam-cunningham-davos-seaworth-talks-that-horrifying-scene-from-last-night/ So we will in fact know what happens next week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twenty of House Goodmen Posted June 8, 2015 Share Posted June 8, 2015 Tell us why not? These are young kids who lost both parents and each are under the wings of dubious people, they are learning different aspects of survival but; they could use a grounded person to show them how to use it. And he's actively looking for Rickon, so if the TV show plays out that Stannis gave an ok in a letter to the Red Witch he may just jump ship.It's not that I dislike house Stark or anything, but the thought of all the morally sound characters joining together makes it appear as if Dany, Tyrion, the Starks, Sam, and Brienne will all band together Avengers style to defeat the big bads. It's just not somthing I originally expected from the story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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