Guest Posted June 8, 2015 Share Posted June 8, 2015 So in the show we Jorah take the place of JonCon and he develops a patch of greyscale, which we all assume will spread. We have seen Jorah touch other people several times during the show, and none appear to be showing any symptoms. So, does this mean that Greyscale is like poison ivy - you have to touch the affected area for it to spread? Or does it take a while to appear? Is it possible that Tyrion & Dany could be affected now? We have seen one case of Greyscale death being averted (Shireen). Is it possible that some bloodlines are resistant or immune to greyscale? I am wondering if perhaps Shireen's survival is less due to skilled Maesters and more due to the fact that she has some Targ blood. This also could tie in with the thoughts on Tyrion possibly being a Targ and Dany possibly being safe from being harmed by touching Jorah. To recap, discussion points: -How do you think Greyscale spreads? Do you have to touch the affected area? Is it airborne in some instances? Or is it death to touch someone with greyscale even if you are not touching the area afflicted? -Is Jorah unwittingly on the verge of starting an epidemic? Will Greyscale be the show's "Pale Mare"? -Is it possible some bloodlines have better immunity/resistance to the Greyscale infection? If so, is it simply a blood/immunology/inherited anti-bodies thing, or magical? Just things I've been thinking about. What do you all think? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhyella Targaryen Posted June 11, 2015 Share Posted June 11, 2015 Look, I think Dumb&Dumber are not that complex.They are just doing what they want. If they say Jorah gets it, he gets it. They are going to do what they want, saddly. If they want Dany to get sick, they will do it. Look at SOtH or the High Sparrow, they are just terrorist like isis with no real point of being there (Kinda like St. Tyrion meeting Dany before the pit. Why?)So, what you see is what you get. Like Olly's death stare. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ekrolo2 Posted June 11, 2015 Share Posted June 11, 2015 As I understood it, Jorah got infected because he was touched by a Stone Man, some one who's in a really late and probably very infectious stage of the disease. I think that if he tried to say kiss some one or have sex with them, the disease would probably spread to them cause y'know, exchanging bodily fluids. But I don't think its far enough in him to immediately make him infectious upon contact. Not yet anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mithras Posted June 11, 2015 Share Posted June 11, 2015 ... which we all assume will spread. No, we don't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShadowKitteh Posted June 11, 2015 Share Posted June 11, 2015 No, we don't. :agree: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anythingatall Posted June 11, 2015 Share Posted June 11, 2015 No, we don't. Me neither, or at least I don't think that's the point of it. The show left out Aegon, LSH, Iron Island shenanigans, Quentyn and Arianne etc etc* but left in greyscale? That makes me think there is a larger significance than simply an epidemic. *I realise that some of these may yet appear but I doubt it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Borodin Posted June 11, 2015 Share Posted June 11, 2015 No one will get greyscale because greyscale makes characters grey and D&D deal only in black and white. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dannyk65 Posted June 11, 2015 Share Posted June 11, 2015 No one will get greyscale because greyscale makes characters grey and D&D deal only in black and white. :bowdown: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Visenya Stark Posted June 12, 2015 Share Posted June 12, 2015 No one will get greyscale because greyscale makes characters grey and D&D deal only in black and white. I couldn't have said it better myself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Visenya Stark Posted June 12, 2015 Share Posted June 12, 2015 -Is it possible some bloodlines have better immunity/resistance to the Greyscale infection? If so, is it simply a blood/immunology/inherited anti-bodies thing, or magical? If you're referring to Targaryens being immune to greyscale, they aren't. At least not in canon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoamingRonin Posted June 12, 2015 Share Posted June 12, 2015 No one will get greyscale because greyscale makes characters grey and D&D deal only in black and white.We somewhat agree here. I don't see the writers making Jorah Patient Zero of a pandemic. He'll die quietly and lovingly in Dany's arms... or something. I really don't know what he wants. If you're referring to Targaryens being immune to greyscale, they aren't. At least not in canon. Tyrion is immune to everything fatal. Greyscale, the pale mare. Perhaps it's his potential Targaryen blood. :dunno:(joking... somewhat...) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonCon's Red Beard Posted June 12, 2015 Share Posted June 12, 2015 I think the most common assumption about JonCon is that his greyscale is there to spread. The greyscale exists for him for two reasons. 1. To be a symbolic representation of him turning into a Tywin-like monster and 2. to make him act rushed as he knows he has no time before he's either discovered or dies. The disease might spread but that specific plot point does not exist for the only purpose of that. The show is simply giving Jorah greyscale because yeah, that's what JonCon is all about. I mean, they are in love with a Targaryen and were sellswords, so, they are pretty much the same guy. :rolleyes: So, I doubt it spreads. It's there because SHOCKING! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sopranos With Swords Posted June 12, 2015 Share Posted June 12, 2015 It could be they just wanted to add drama, but they do know more about the unwritten canon story then we do so it might be that JonCons infection had some future implications that they needed to combine with Jorah. To be honest I don't see how more people don't rock up to westeros with the disease on occasion, so one man shouldn't really cause an epidemic but it is possible I guess. Seems unlikely. I thought it was because Jorah would die in the pit anyway saving Dany or something stupid, but that clearly isn't the case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonCon's Red Beard Posted June 12, 2015 Share Posted June 12, 2015 Me neither, or at least I don't think that's the point of it. The show left out Aegon, LSH, Iron Island shenanigans, Quentyn and Arianne etc etc* but left in greyscale? That makes me think there is a larger significance than simply an epidemic. *I realise that some of these may yet appear but I doubt it. The show uses what the show needs, whether it means something or not. Like Mercy. The show did Mercy last year. They are making Mercy again but just including the sexual part of it. Is Arya chasing pedophiles something that has a larger significance? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
averde Posted June 12, 2015 Share Posted June 12, 2015 They cut JonCon from the show but clearly the greyscale aspect of his plot is important enough to include, and since he isn't in Meereen in the books Jorah isn't going to just be the Pale Mare epidemic, so clearly the greyscale and all that is going to be related to something in Westeros or somehow important in some way there. Since we don't know what's going to happen to JonCon with it, there's no way to predict it's important to Jorah.I always assumed it was implied that you have to touch an infected area on a person to be infected yourself, which is why the stonemen (who are completely covered) are so dangerous. Any bloodline being immune to a disease feels like too much plot armor. Dany being immune to fire is similar to this but you can at least say "hey targaryens, dragons, fire, blah blah blah" it's a little more of a stretch with a disease. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShadowKitteh Posted June 13, 2015 Share Posted June 13, 2015 If it spreads via touching someone who has it anywhere, instead of just the infected part, Dragonstone would have had a pandemic and they'd all be isolated Stonemen now. Infants don't take care of themselves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anythingatall Posted June 13, 2015 Share Posted June 13, 2015 The show uses what the show needs, whether it means something or not. Like Mercy. The show did Mercy last year. They are making Mercy again but just including the sexual part of it. Is Arya chasing pedophiles something that has a larger significance? Indeed, it uses what it needs and the Mercy chapter presents an opportunity for some kick ass revenge and what else are they going to do with her (personally I would have liked to have seen her Bran-ed)? People like to see her being all awesome and murder-y, or they could actually go dark with it for character development (not holding my breath). Either way it could make good/controversial telly and that's what they want. The same can't be said for greyscale. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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