A Pregnant Sansa

[Winterfell Resident]

I have a strong suspicion that if Sansa Stark survives the jump from the wall of Winterfell, she will be pregnant with a Bolton child.

I base this speculation on the wedding night and Ramsay keeping Sansa locked up in the room and going at her multiple times in order to have her with child.

But, I believe what is most important is what would Sansa do if she discovers that she is pregnant?

I believe that she would take a page out of Cersei's book and have multiple cups of moon tea.

I could be absolutely wrong on this but, with Sansa's history she is capable of not going through with this pregnancy.

Her dealings with Joffrey and now Ramsay will probably weigh in on her decision to NOT keep the baby, IF SHE IS PREGNANT.

I would like to hear your thoughts on this. I'd sure like to think that I am not the only one who is thinking about this.

Your Thoughts.

[evita mgfs]

Oh, I had considered this.

[Grail King]

It's been mentioned a bit.

[Pc2004]

I think this has been discussed at length in some of the prior Sansa discussions. It is definitely possible. Some say there is ample foreshadowing for it. Some say there is not much. It's all speculation as to what will happen. I personally think that in the upcoming books Sansa will be a mother and trust no man ever. So they WF mashup in this season could just be a quick way to get her to that point while saving money by not having to do the vale Sansa stuff from the books. I think we all sympathize with Sansa much more after this season for sure.

[rosehustle1]

God, I hope they don't do that.

[WhitewolfStark]

If I may touch upon the original letter to which Martin sold AGOT to his agent on. Ran & Elio took pictures of the original letter when it was on display in Texas along with manuscripts of the novels, from which this is transcribed.

October 1993
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Each of the contending families will learn it has a member of dubious loyalty in its midst. Sansa Stark, wed to Joffrey Baratheon, will bear him a son, the heir to the throne, and when the crunch comes she will choose her husband and child over her parents and siblings, a choice she will later bitterly rue.

This partly got transferred onto Lysa by the time Martin got to finishing the book, but the fact that it was the original track of the character, it's not so wholly inconceivable that at the very least Sansa dealing with pregnancy is a potential future for her.

[Pc2004]

Fully agree. Look At women in medieval times. Their purpose was for procreation. Sansa both in book and show will more than likely become a mother. Why else would there be such a focus on her maidenhood? At some point she may be left with only her children. I tend to see her like cersei. Bitter and almost a victim of the game of thrones only thing she loves is her kids.

[Newstar]

I have a strong suspicion that if Sansa Stark survives the jump from the wall of Winterfell, she will be pregnant with a Bolton child.

I base this speculation on the wedding night and Ramsay keeping Sansa locked up in the room and going at her multiple times in order to have her with child.

But, I believe what is most important is what would Sansa do if she discovers that she is pregnant?

I believe that she would take a page out of Cersei's book and have multiple cups of moon tea.

I could be absolutely wrong on this but, with Sansa's history she is capable of not going through with this pregnancy.

Her dealings with Joffrey and now Ramsay will probably weigh in on her decision to NOT keep the baby, IF SHE IS PREGNANT.

I would like to hear your thoughts on this. I'd sure like to think that I am not the only one who is thinking about this.

Your Thoughts.

Assuming she is pregnant, I doubt she'd have ready access to a supply of the abortifacient concoction Lysa was forced to consume by Hoster. She's on the run in Bolton-controlled territory. It's not as if she can just pop in to the local apothecary. (...I'm kind of liking the idea of a Game of Thrones version of Mad Max: Fury Road, with Pod as Nux, Brienne as Furiosa, and Sansa as one of the Wives, LOL.)

Remember, Book Jeyne was raped many times and didn't wind up pregnant, so it's not like a pregnancy necessarily follows from all the rape. Still, Book Sansa might eventually get pregnant by Harry, in which case she would need a show-equivalent babydaddy if she successfully carries the baby to term or dies in childbirth or something in the books. With that said, bearing the child of a douchebag affiliated with a family supposedly loyal to hers would have far fewer psychological issues involved for Sansa than bearing the child of a psychopath whose family had terrorized her own. I'm guessing she'd be far less conflicted over bearing Harry's child than Ramsay's.

I was banging the "Sansa is totes preggers" drum pretty loudly when Season 5 was airing, but now I'm not so sure. It would up the drama considerably, though. There has also been a fair amount of lines in the show about Sansa being a mother: Sansa's talk with Septa Mordane about having girls and not boys, Cersei's line about Sansa loving Joffrey's children, Cersei and Tyrion's talk about Tyrion giving Sansa a child (coupled with Cersei saying that her children kept her from killing herself), etc.

The other thing about a rape pregnancy is that it would be adding insult to injury for Sansa. If the show had stuck to Sansa's Vale storyline, I don't think it would seem as if she'd suffered too much, but I can only imagine the choruses of "Misery porn," etc. etc. if Sansa is not only raped repeatedly but put in a situation where she has no choice but to bear her rapist's child.

[Philpenn]

Pretty good chance Sansa and/or Arya is barren, or just unable to birth a healthy child. That Whent blood should take it's toll on at least one of the Stark girls.

[Newstar]

Pretty good chance Sansa and/or Arya is barren, or just unable to birth a healthy child. That Whent blood should take it's toll on at least one of the Stark girls.

Minisa bore three healthy kids. Catelyn, her daughter, birthed five healthy children and didn't die in childbirth. Lysa had problems with stillbirths and miscarriages, true, but women are more likely to miscarry children by older fathers, and Jon Arryn was a very old father. Catelyn and Lysa were the opposite of barren; they both got knocked up their first time. If Book Sansa's like them, she'll get knocked up her first time as well. It seems that for Tully women, young healthy man + young Tully woman = instant pregnancy.

We know in the books, Harry doesn't suffer from fertility issues, having impregnated not one but two women at a relatively young age.

We also know that in the show, Ramsay has successfully impregnated a young woman previously.

In the show, TV Littlefinger never mentioned what would happen if Sansa got impregnated by her husband. In the books, if Sweetrobin dies and Sansa marries Harry and gets impregnated, she'll be carrying the future heir to the Vale and Sansa's political golden ticket if she can get rid of Harry. If she gets knocked up in the show, Ramsay's baby will be political poison: the potential heir to the reviled Boltons and a possible rival for her brothers. It would be very different.

[voodooqueen126]

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The other thing about a rape pregnancy is that it would be adding insult to injury for Sansa. If the show had stuck to Sansa's Vale storyline, I don't think it would seem as if she'd suffered too much, but I can only imagine the choruses of "Misery porn," etc. etc. if Sansa is not only raped repeatedly but put in a situation where she has no choice but to bear her rapist's child.

Because Ding and Dong are against religion, but still believe that Good Girls Avoid abortion.

:bang:

[Newstar]

Because Ding and Dong are against religion, but still believe that Good Girls Avoid abortion.

:bang:

I don't think politics would have anything to do with it, but rather dramatic possibilities. The following scenario doesn't exactly scream great drama:

Sansa: Shit, I'm pregnant!

Brienne: No worries, here's some tansy stuff.

Sansa: Awesome. That solves that!

[Orphalesion]

Inflicting a child of rape on Sansa....no...just no....

To me it seems what happened to her in Winterfell was thrown in without much planning or thought of the impact those events would have on the character. If ever, the rape will only ever be mentioned again if Sansa get's her revenge on Ramsay.

With the way Sansa's storyline was handled last season DnD have shown that they don't have the intelligence or tact needed to handle a "child of my rapist" storyline which would piss off a lot of people no matter what they do.

[Rinn80]

I have a strong suspicion that if Sansa Stark survives the jump from the wall of Winterfell, she will be pregnant with a Bolton child.

Not after that jump anymore

[MorpHDoc]

Or she may pull American Horror Story type abortion, in front of Ramsey...not gonna happen, but I wonder how would Ramsey react!

I really hope she is not pregnant...I want her to finally grow some balls and be The Queen in the North!

[Lord Reaper oOo]

Why do people think Sansa wont survive the jump?

That would be the worst piece of writing the show has seen.

[Pc2004]

Sansa will survive the jump. Jeyne survives the jump. She may be injured and possibly the jump could be the cause of a miscarriage if she is with child but she will survive. Too much left of her story to just kill her off, plus Sophie turner is becoming more and more famous and popular. D&D aren't killing off the actress who is becoming a star. After this season, they need all the star power they can get.

[lakin1013]

Totally out there but maybe LittleFinger already assumed for this pregnancy possibility and shows up (using his insta-speed rapid transport method) prepared to eliminate it with moon tea? I cannot think of any advantage a Bolton baby has for Sansa or Littlefinger. I was going to write 'true-born' Bolton baby but then I remembered that Sansa is still married to Tyrion, right? And of course, married to Bolton. So an odd question is - if Sansa is pregnant, is the baby a Bolton or a Lannister? Biologically, a Bolton but legally a Lannister? God help us all. :-)

[Ludo Kressh]

I don't think she's still legally married to Tyrion, although I'm not familiar with the annullment process(doesn't a Septon have to do it?). And even if she was, Tyrion's not around to do anything about it and I don't think the Boltons care one way or the other. But it's a moot point now since Sansa escaped and if she gets away completely and suspects she is pregnant and somehow gets the means to, she'll probably abort it.

I kind of hope she isn't pregnant, it will certainly complicate things more than they already are.

[Newstar]

I'm guessing the baby would be considered a trueborn Bolton, since it appears under the show marriage rules that Sansa was legally married to Ramsay when the child was conceived. Assuming she is pregnant and is unable to procure an abortion, Sansa might claim that the child is a bastard to protect her brothers' rights, protect the child from vengeful northerners, and keep Winterfell out of Bolton hands, though...which would lead to Sansa winding up in her mother's position of raising a child being passed off as a bastard she resented and didn't want. All of this has happened before and all of this will happen again, etc. etc.

I kind of hope she isn't pregnant, it will certainly complicate things more than they already are.

That would be the best part for me. What would Sansa do if she found out she were pregnant with a Bolton child? Try to abort it? What if she couldn't? How would she deal with that? How would Littlefinger deal with that? How would Sansa cope with being not only on the run from her psychopath husband but also pregnant by him? Cersei said in Season 3 that her children kept her from killing herself. Would Sansa being a mother give her the will to live, or would it be the thing that pushes her over the edge when she's already survived so much? It could be very interesting, at least from a dramatic perspective.

As for the books, if Sansa is impregnated by Harry it wouldn't be nearly as psychologically fraught; Harry's just a garden-variety douchebag, while Sansa would have legitimate concerns as to whether Ramsay's child would share Ramsay's insanity or Roose's cruelty. Also, Harry's trueborn child could stand to inherit the Vale--although that would depend on Sweetrobin dying--while Ramsay's child would be political poison for Sansa. So it doesn't necessarily stand that a Ramsay/Sansa pregnancy would be an acceptable show substitute for a Harry/Sansa pregnancy, because of these issues. With that said, if Harry does knock up Sansa in the books (and dies shortly thereafter), and the pregnancy is carried to term, TV Sansa needs a babydaddy as well.

My problem with a Harry/Sansa pregnancy in the books is that unless Harry rapes Sansa--which GRRM has all but said will not happen--Harry probably wouldn't be having sex with Sansa before their wedding, and that wedding can't happen under book rules until the previous marriage is annulled, something which can't be done without Sansa outing her location by writing personally to the High Septon and requesting an annulment. So it seems like there are some obstacles before the marriage can happen, if it does happen at all. I suppose Harry could always press Sansa for pre-wedding sex and Sansa could give in thinking "Well, we'll be married anyway," only for the wedding to get called off and Sansa getting knocked up. Of course, Sansa being impregnated with Harry's bastard carries a whole different set of issues from carrying the possible trueborn heir to the Vale.

If the show needed a plausible babydaddy for Sansa because she's impregnated by Harry in the books, it would explain why they went to all the trouble of parachuting her into the Jeyne storyline. If Harry knocks up Sansa in the books, the storyline needed someone who could plausibly impregnate Sansa but who was disposable.