Darth Richard II Posted July 7, 2015 Share Posted July 7, 2015 Weird. And shitty. I wonder if there are internal problems at Overlook. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhom Posted July 7, 2015 Share Posted July 7, 2015 Wow. I think I'm just going to forget about Bakker and TSA for awhile. I was hoping to plan a re-read before the publication, but it's really looking farther and farther away at this point. He should release that first chapter on Pat's blog and other places in order to drum up interest. Heck, release two or three chapters like Martin does. The book is over 300k long. Hell... just release the book! It could be like the movie Pootie Tang, where he sits down with Bob Costas to show a clip of the movie and two hours later Costas says "Wow... that was some clip." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hello World Posted July 7, 2015 Share Posted July 7, 2015 So are we going to start seeing “What should I read while waiting for the Unholy Consult?” threads from now on? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 8, 2015 Share Posted July 8, 2015 It's funny that I feel like I can't completely dismiss the possibility that Bakker takes something up a notch in the finale that the publishers find unpublishable. I'm certainly not betting on that, but with Bakker I think it can't be dismissed. Seriously though, WTF. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Richard II Posted July 8, 2015 Share Posted July 8, 2015 I highly doubt that considering some of the shit that gets published these days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buff daddy Posted July 8, 2015 Share Posted July 8, 2015 Fuck Overlook Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 8, 2015 Share Posted July 8, 2015 It would be pretty messed up to threaten someone at Overlook with plying, but if one of you guys did it, I'd be cool with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalbear Posted July 8, 2015 Share Posted July 8, 2015 Another theory is that Bakker finally pissed someone off that matters to his livelihood. Unlikely, but keep in mind we are only hearing his side. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Callan S. Posted July 8, 2015 Share Posted July 8, 2015 Yea, that sucks. I just wish that a company could have the common decency to respond their customers. This no reply is what is so disheartening. Callan S., so much for it being due to their work schedule, huh? But, in all fairness you said next week will be the latest the would respond by, because of holidays. We shall see. I gave some kind of deadline for them to respond? Maybe you're thinking of some other poster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Richard II Posted July 8, 2015 Share Posted July 8, 2015 Another theory is that Bakker finally pissed someone off that matters to his livelihood. Unlikely, but keep in mind we are only hearing his side.Eh, doesn't seem that unlikely. And, no, to the post above, don't threaten overlook, that's a good way to get the book NEVER published. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 8, 2015 Share Posted July 8, 2015 Eh, doesn't seem that unlikely. And, no, to the post above, don't threaten overlook, that's a good way to get the book NEVER published. Wouldn't someone pick it up though or short of that couldn't Bakker self-publish? I was figuring the former as the most likely and that the bummer there would simply be that it would add a ton of time to the process. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Seswatha Jordan Posted July 8, 2015 Share Posted July 8, 2015 I gave some kind of deadline for them to respond? Maybe you're thinking of some other poster.Shit, it was Lockesnow, sorry about that. Well Lockesnow, your theory has only one week left. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Marquis de Leech Posted July 8, 2015 Share Posted July 8, 2015 Wouldn't someone pick it up though or short of that couldn't Bakker self-publish? I was figuring the former as the most likely and that the bummer there would simply be that it would add a ton of time to the process. Self-publishing *might* work for someone like Bakker: he's got sufficient name recognition and genre respect to overcome the traditional hurdles of that route. On the other hand, it would seriously hurt his ego. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Richard II Posted July 8, 2015 Share Posted July 8, 2015 Yeah but if you piss off a publisher In The right way they will hold on to the rights as long as they can, just to be dicks. See Kearny and his Sea Beggers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kuenjato Posted July 8, 2015 Share Posted July 8, 2015 Yeah but if you piss off a publisher In The right way they will hold on to the rights as long as they can, just to be dicks. See Kearny and his Sea Beggers. It really depends on what kind of contract Bakker signed for the second series. He seemed pretty confident in his blog post that it might be viable. Still. It sucks, either way. I'm starting to think we'll see The Winds of Winter before TUC, something I wouldn't have betted any kind of money on until very recently... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Callan S. Posted July 8, 2015 Share Posted July 8, 2015 Yeah but if you piss off a publisher In The right way they will hold on to the rights as long as they can, just to be dicks. Nay, it's because the publisher looks at their 'What would Kellhus do?' wrist band and then does that. To be a dick would mean you atleast care... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Callan S. Posted July 8, 2015 Share Posted July 8, 2015 Semi off topic, has anyone looked at the 'Music I'm writing to' section of TPB? Wardruna actually seems pretty neat to me. Seems to be a good feel for Earwa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.H. Posted July 8, 2015 Author Share Posted July 8, 2015 My tin-foil hat theory is that they plan to drop the series, so they are attempting to inflict as much financial damage to it before they give it up. I really hope I am wrong though. This would explain the disappearance of his ebooks though and lack of UK shelf-space, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hello World Posted July 8, 2015 Share Posted July 8, 2015 Is it possible to get some authors to talk about this? I know GRRM has read PoN and praised it somewhat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kuenjato Posted July 8, 2015 Share Posted July 8, 2015 My tin-foil hat theory is that they plan to drop the series, so they are attempting to inflict as much financial damage to it before they give it up. I really hope I am wrong though. This would explain the disappearance of his ebooks though and lack of UK shelf-space, etc. eh. it's a lot more likely that, with the changeover in administration/editors etc., they're indifferent to the series, and as the sales aren't exactly burning up the charts (how can they, when the books aren't even stocked in mainstream booksellers like B&N? See my post above about New Mexico distribution or rather the lack thereof), Bakker's just an afterthought at this point. Thus the 'we'll publish this brick sometime in 2016' boilerplate and the online shrugs to the email campaign. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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