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Wow, I Never Noticed That v. 13

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You were small, but far-famed. We were in Oldtown at your birth, and all the city talked of was the monster that had been born to the Kings Hand, and what such an omen might foretell for the realm.

Famine, plague, and war, no doubt. Tyrion gave a sour smile. Its always famine, plague, and war. Oh, and winter, and the long night that never ends.

All that, said Prince Oberyn, and your fathers fall as well. Lord Tywin had made himself greater than King Aerys, I heard one begging brother preach, but only a god is meant to stand above a king. You were his curse, a punishment sent by the gods to teach him that he was no better than any other man.

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After all the wonderful whispers, Lord Tywins Doom turned out to be just a hideous red infant with stunted legs.

 

Never underestimate the wisedom of the smallfolk. 
 
Tyrion's kidnapping started a war, which led to famine. Tyrion might also become indirectly responsible for bringing the plague to Westeros, as Jon Connington got infected with greyscale when he saved Tyrion from drowning at the Sorrows. Tyrion was born in winter, and as Tywin's killer, he indeed served as Lord Tywin's Doom.
 
The only thing still unaccounted for, is the Long Night "that never ends". Perhaps a suggestion that Tyrion will play his part in the upcoming was against the Others in the battle for the dawn as well?
Nice catch. I doubt Tyrion survives the Dance. His brother on the other hand...

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Varys drops a massive hint about aegon right at the start of aCoK:

"In the streets, they call it the Red Messenger," Varys said. "They say it comes as a herald before a king, to warn of fire and blood to follow."

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Ok, one thing here. Danny has done a lot of stupid things but those were hard decisions she made so maybe not to be blamed much. Yet, one of her acts made me wondering...OK, so Dhrogon took her away in Dothraki sea and she stayed on a hill for a while, eating baked meat from what Dhrogon brings. Well, couldn't she just stock up some of that baked meat and take it with her when heading back instead of starving and then eating those stupid fruit that made her sick. So simple...

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Wow, I never noticed that Tyrion heard Lancel playing Tysha's song for Cersei.

ETA

Ser Cleos Frey left that very afternoon, escorted by Vylarr and a hundred red-cloaked Lannister guardsmen. The men Robb Stark had sent joined them at the King's Gate for the long ride west.

Tyrion VI, Clash 25

It's highly unlikely that such a sizeable force could trek through the Riverlands undetected by Tywin's foragers and scouts. Once he learned of their movement and allegiance, he would have sent word to learn their purpose, unless Tyrion had already advised his father.

ETA II

But if so, how was Tyrion communicating with Tywin? We never see any of such communication, do we? And it's extremely doubtful Tyrion would have relied on Pycelle's ravens.

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Wow, I never noticed that Tyrion heard Lancel playing Tysha's song for Cersei.

ETA

Tyrion VI, Clash 25

It's highly unlikely that such a sizeable force could trek through the Riverlands undetected by Tywin's foragers and scouts. Once he learned of their movement and allegiance, he would have sent word to learn their purpose, unless Tyrion had already advised his father.

ETA II

But if so, how was Tyrion communicating with Tywin? We never see any of such communication, do we? And it's extremely doubtful Tyrion would have relied on Pycelle's ravens.

we might just not know of it. I doubt even in the field tywin wouldnt want regular updates from KL specifically Tyrion. 

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Wow, I never noticed (or maybe I just forgot) that Chiswick took Needle from Arya, which more fully explains why she gave his name to the Faceless Man who paid her debt to the Red God.

Oops, that's wrong, Chiswick was one of three that mugged her, along with Polliver, who apparently took the sword away from her.

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Probably quoted before:

 

aSoS - JON V

 

Good queen Alysanne, they called her later. One of the castles on the wall was named for her as well. Queensgate. Before her visit they called it Snowgate.

:)

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Maybe this was painstakingly obvious for the most of you, but I only catched this on my second read. 

 

 

"You do it." Elmar could be friendly when he needed help, but afterward he would always remember that he was a squire and she was only a serving girl. He liked to boast how he was the son of the Lord of the Crossing, not a nephew or a bastard or a grandson but a trueborn son, and on account of that he was going to marry a princess.

Arya didn't care about his precious princess, and didn't like him giving her commands. "I have to bring m'lord water for his basin. He's in his bedchamber being leeched. Not the regular black leeches but the big pale ones."

 

When Elmar is talking about his princess he fails to grasp he is actually talking to his princess. As Robb is their king and the initial crossing through the Twins required Arya being betrothed to a Frey I'm amazed I didn't realize the first time around. 

 

Also 

 

"What's wrong?" Arya asked him when she saw the tears shining on his cheeks.

"My princess," he sobbed. "We've been dishonored, Aenys says. There was a bird from the Twins. My lord father says I'll need to marry someone else, or be a septon."

 

Right after Robb gets with the westerling girl, it also foreshadows the Red Wedding a bit. The fact that Robb married someone else didn't HAVE to mean the Arya/Elmar betrothal was nullified aswell - unless ofcourse you are planning to betray the Starks anyway.

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Probably quoted before:
 
aSoS - JON V
:)

You mean as a hint towards RLJ? Hmm.. I don't really see it as such. The Snow did not become King, but Queen..

In addition, Jon doesn't have to be Rhaegars so to eventually become King.

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You mean as a hint towards RLJ? Hmm.. I don't really see it as such. The Snow did not become King, but Queen..

In addition, Jon doesn't have to be Rhaegars so to eventually become King.

It could mean nothing, I agree. But dragons are neither female nor male...

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Probably been noticed before, but another clue towards Mormont's raven being warged by Bloodraven, in Sam I AFFC:

The raven landed on his wrist and took one from his palm, pecking so hard that Sam yelped and snatched his hand back. The raven took to the air again, and yellow and red kernels went everywhere.

"Close the door, Sam." Faint scars still marked Jon's cheek, where an eagle had once tried to rip his eye out. "Did that wretch break the skin?"

Sam eased the books down and peeled off his glove. "He did." He felt faint. "I'm bleeding."

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Probably been noticed before, but another clue towards Mormont's raven being warged by Bloodraven, in Sam I AFFC:

Almost as good as paste. Mmm, paste.

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Probably been noticed before, but another clue towards Mormont's raven being warged by Bloodraven, in Sam I AFFC:

Wait, how does this hint towards skinchanging? (warging is skinchanging a dog or wolf)

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Probably been noticed before, but another clue towards Mormont's raven being warged by Bloodraven, in Sam I AFFC:

 

There's another theory concerning this scene that deals with Bloodraven trying to "tell Sam's fortune" so to speak, ala Maggy's prophecy to Cersei.

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Nine women are described as handsome: Chataya, Allerie & Lemore by Tyrion, Barbrey by Theon, Wynafred by Davos, Mariya by Jaime, the Lady Hewett by Victarion, Catelyn by Brienne & Sybell by Catelyn.

ETA

Tyrion and Brynden Rivers both believe, or at least want to believe that the ends justify the means...

Chataya commiserated with him a moment, then excused herself and glided off. A handsome woman, Tyrion reflected as he watched her go. He had seldom seen such elegance and dignity in a whore. Though to be sure, she saw herself more as a kind of priestess. Perhaps that is the secret. It is not what we do, so much as why we do it. Somehow that thought comforted him.

Tyrion VII, Clash 29

The problem with this slippery slope is that you can end up murdering men after promising safe conduct, having rivals butchered and served to customers in pot shops, and developing a fondness for Jojen paste.

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According to Cat, Raynald Westerling, the one Westerling who is "supposedly" dead, reminds Robb of Theon and Jon Snow.

Theon's religions teaches that men can reborn after being drown in the sea.
Jon's been stabbed and he's likely going to return.

Raynald Westerling was hit by crossbows and fell into the river. He's aliveeeeeee.

 

Or Robb warged Raynald's body . . . 

 

I have no idea, but the thought just hit me. 

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