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Don't feel like reading through all those previous threads to find the answer to your question? Try this new feature:
 
Most Frequently asked Small Questions
 
On The Winds of Winter:

 
When will "The Winds of Winter" be published? What's the latest news?

Nobody knows. Current rumours say October 2015, but so far every rumor has been wrong.
 
The best bet is to follow GRRM's blog.
 
GRRM himself has expressed in December, 2014:
Look, I've said before, and I will say again, I don't play games with news about the books. I know how many people are waiting, how long they have been waiting, how anxious they are. I am still working on WINDS. When it's done, I will announce it here [on GRRM's site]. There won't be any clues to decipher, any codes or hidden meanings, the announcement will be straightforward and to the point. I won't time it to coincide with Xmas or Valentine's Day or Lincoln's Birthday, the book will not rise from the dead with Jesus on Easter Sunday. When it is done, I will say that's it is done, on whatever day I happen to finish.I don't know how I can make it any clearer. 
 
What's the material that has already been published from The Winds of Winter?
Spoiler tagged for obvious reasons

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* Barristan I, published in 2013 paperback edition of A Dance with Dragons
* Tyrion I, read at Miscon 2012
* Victarion I, read at Miscon 2012
* Barristan II, read at Boscone 50 in 2012
* Tyrion II, released in the 2014 update of A World of Ice and Fire, the official app
* Theon I, released on GRRM's website in 2011, also released in the back of several A Dance with Dragons paperback editions
* Arianne I, released on GRRM's website in 2013
* Arianne II, read at Worldcon 2011
* Mercy, removed from A Dance with Dragons, placed in The Winds of Winter, released on GRRM's website.
* Aeron I, mentioned by GRRM on his blog to have been removed from A Dance with Dragons in 2010, reserved for The Winds of Winter
* Alayne I, removed from A Dance with Dragons, placed in The Winds of Winter. Recently posted on GRRMs website, currently available for reading.
* Prologue, featuring an appearance by Jeyne Westerling. It is currently unknown who the POV will be for this prologue.


In total, we know about 11 chapters
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On the tales of Dunk & Egg, and links to the main series:
 
How many Dunk & Egg stories have been published? Where are they published in?

Three Dunk and Egg stories are published at the moment. For now, they are

1. The Hedge Knight
A short story to be found either in "Legends, edited by Robert Silverberg" or in "Dreamsongs II by George R.R. Martin"

There is also a rendition as a graphic novel by the same name: "The Hedge Knight".
 
2. The Sworn Sword
A short story to be found either in "Legends II - Dragon, Sword and King, edited by Robert Silverberg" or in the original hard- and softcover editions of "Legends II" from 2003 & 2004

There is also a rendition as a graphic novel by the same name: "The Sworn Sword".
 
3. The Mystery Knight
A short story to be found either in "Warriors, edited by George R.R. Martin and Gardner Dozois" or in the paperback "Warriors 1, edited by George R.R. Martin and Gardner Dozois"

No graphic novel... yet.


 
 
Two more Dunk & Egg stories yet to be written have already been described. They are known as "The She-wolves of Winterfell" and "The Village Hero". Both of these are working titles, though, not final titles.
 
Four additional titles have been mentioned by Martin: "The Sellsword", "The Champion", "The Kingsguard", and "The Lord Commander".
 
 
Will the Dunk & Egg tales be published in one book?
The first three tales of Dunk and Egg will be published in one book, titled "A Knight of the Seven Kingdoms", to be released in english on 6-10-2015. In some other languages, however, it has already been published. "A Knight of the Seven Kingdoms" will contain pages filled with artwork, which the other versions don't have.
 
 
Was Dunk ever knighted by Ser Arlan?
In spoiler tags:
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No. Whether he was knighted later in life, is unknown, but likely, given his status as Lord Commander of the Kingsguard.
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Are any descendants of Dunk still alive in the main series today?
Yes. GRRM has expressed that we'd meet one of Dunk's descendants. Brienne of Tarth finds the shield Dunk owns in The Hedge Knight. Hodor is often heavily suspected to be a descendant of Dunk's due to his enormous size, and the fact that people believe the young girl and the "knight as tall as Hodor" in the vision Bran sees in A Dance with Dragons are Old Nan (in her youth) and Dunk, and that the event is to take place during The She-Wolves of Winterfell.
Small Paul (from the Night's Watch) has also been suggested to be a descendant of Dunks, due to his size and the mention of "thick as a castle wall", which is also used to describe Dunk.
 
 
On the main series:
 
When was Robert Baratheon declared King?
Around the time of the Battle of the Trident.
 
 
Why were Ned and Robert at the Eyrie when mad king Aerys II sent to Jon Arryn for their heads?
It is true Ned and Robert were past their squiring and fostering age, when they visited Jon Arryn together at the Eyrie at that certain time. There is clarification on this both in TWoIaF and an older SSM telling that they liked to spend some of their time there together.
 
 
What is the right of the first night?
The right of the first night, better known as droit du seigneur (which only looks French, although it is English usage, the French use different terminology) or jus primae noctis is a medieval custom that has been abolished in Westeros (by Jaeherys I & Septon Barth) as in the real world (apart from a few small islands in the English channel).
It allows the lord to be the first to consummate any marriage before the husband, thus potentially to sire numerous bastard children. In the real world, husbands would pay a fee to their lord for not making use of this right.
 
 
What is "guest right" and why is it so important?
The guest right is a sacred law of hospitality. When a guest, no matter the station of birth, eats the food and drinks the drink beneath the host's roof, the guest right is invoked. Bread and salt are the traditional provisions.
When invoked, neither the guest is allowed to do harm to his host, nor is the host allowed to do harm to his guest for the length of the guest's stay. For either to do so would be to break a sacred covenant that is believed to invoke the wrath of the Gods both old and new. Both the teachings of the old gods and the Faith of the Seven hold to this. Even robber lords and wreckers are bound by the ancient laws of hospitality.
 
Guest gifts can be given when the guests depart, ending the guest right. House Manderly practises this tradition in A Dance with Dragons.
 
Breaking the guest right is seen as a terrible thing. The example stated in the books concern the Rat Cook. A cook in the Night's Watch who killed the kings son, and cooked the son in a pie he served to the king, leading to the unknowingly eating his own son. The gods punished the Rat Cook, by turning him into a giant rat who could only feed by eating its own young. The gods did not punish the cook for feeding the king his own son, but for killing a man beneath his own roof.
 
 
Does the Wall block warging?
It appears so. Jon Snow isn't capable of connecting with Ghost anymore, when they have the Wall in between them, nor can Jon, warged in Ghost, feel Summer when Summer is north of the Wall, and Jon and Ghost south.
 
Whether this is the same for each warg/skinchanger, or depends on the strength of the individual, is a matter of discussion. It does appear that Bran, warged into the weirwood net, can see south of the Wall, whilst being north of it.
 
 
What's the kindness Jaime never did?
Jaime is referring to Tysha, and how Tyrion believed that Jaime bought Tysha's services to make Tyrion into a man (making him lose his virginity). Jaime never paid Tysha, however, as Tysha wasn't a whore. In other words, a kindness that Jaime never did.
 
 
In A Dance with Dragons, Septon Chayle is at the Wall. Wasn't he the septon at Winterfell? Didn't he die in A Clash of Kings?
Indeed. This is an error., Septon Cellador is the Septon at Castle Black. Septon Chayle, as far as is known, is dead.
 
 
If the gates in King's Landing were closed, how did Arya get to the harbor? You need to cross a gate...
A well known issue. People have tried to find explanations for it, but most have not yet been satisfied. Here's the most recent given explanation.
 
 
How come Cersei and Margaery need a Kingsguard Knight to defend them in their trials in A Dance with Dragons, while Gregor Clegane, not a Kingsguard Knight, was allowed to defend Cersei in Tyrion's trial in A Storm of Swords?
Because in Tyrion's trial, it wasn't Cersei who stood accused.. Tyrion was accused, Cersei the accuser. Tyrion didn't necessarily need to use a Kingsguard knight in that trial because he isn't royalty.
 
In Cersei's case in Dance (and in Margaery's case, should she opt for a trial by combat, should her first trial fail), Cersei is the Queen Regent, Margaery the Queen. They are royalty, and it is them who stand accued. They are not the accusers. Thus, they need a Kingsguard to defend them. 
 
 
If knights are custom of the followers of the Seven, why there are knights in the North (Old Gods) and in the Iron Islands (Drowned God)?
There aren't many. So far we know of a single Ironborn knight. Knights from the North spring forth from a few sources:

1. White Harbor and the Manderlys
The Manderys in White harbor brought the new gods and Southern customs along, so knighthood is more common there.
 
2. Houses near the Neck
Houses who have business with the South may have a few knights, as customs mingle.
 
3. War returnees
Some Northerners simply get knighted by Southern nobility during war time, it cannot be helped. Ser Jorah Mormont is an example.
 
4. Hedge Knights and Freeriders
People living the life of a hedge knight or freeriders in service in the South might face the same treatment, when the do too many chivalrous deeds, although an example is missing here.


 
Who can make a knight?
Any knight can make a knight. As knighthood is a form of distinction, the higher in renown or social status the maker, the better for the image of the knight made. Kings can also knight people, but lords cannot (unless they have once been knighted themselves).
 
So for example, King Robert Baratheon, knighted in his youth, can knight people (and has) because he is a knight himself, and because he is a king. King Baelor I, a king, but not a knight, could have knighted anyone he wanted to. Lord Eddard Stark, never knighted himself, can't knight anyone.
 
 
Which Targaryens had deformed children?

* King Maegor I Targaryen (multiple malformed children by multiple wives)
* Daemon Targaryen (a malformed son by Lady Laena Velaryon)
* Rhaenyra Targaryen (a malformed stillborn daughter, Visenya, by Prince Daemon, according to Mushroom)
* Daenerys Targaryen (a malformed stillborn son, Rhaego, by Khal Drogo)


 
 
How big do dragons grow?
Dragons seem just to grow if they get enough food and space.
 
 
How old are Dany's dragons as of the end of Dance?
Born in early 299 AC, the dragons are currently around 1,5 years old.
 
 
Who is Jon Snow's mother?
Have a look into the first post of the current (fixed) R+L=J thread in the General ASoIaF forum. It links to collections of theories on Jon Snow's parentage.
 
 
Who are the marcher lords?
Marcher lords are powerful lords who guard region near border with Dorne, known as the Dornish Marches. They have large keeps and maintain large forces, to defend lands of the Reach and Stormlands in case of Dornish attack.

Marcher lords:
- in the Stormlands:
House Selmy, House Dondarrion, House Swann, House Caron
- in the Reach:
House Tarly, possibly House Peake
 

When Arya is serving at Harrenhal, she sees Roose Bolton cautionly turning the pages of a very ornate and fragile book, before throwing it to the fire. Do we know which book was that?
No.


Any other questions:
 
Is The Ice Dragon part of the asoiaf universe?

No, it is not.
 
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So there is a theory of a dragon living beneath Winterfell, and warming the hit springs in the Godswood. Would it actually be possible for dragons to be hatched at such cold places? And where does the idea come from anyways? Where would the dragon eggs in the North come from?

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So there is a theory of a dragon living beneath Winterfell, and warming the hit springs in the Godswood. Would it actually be possible for dragons to be hatched at such cold places? And where does the idea come from anyways? Where would the dragon eggs in the North come from?

We don't know if there are limitations to a dragons living surrounding, through I can imagine there is. Eggs seem to need heath, several Targaryens tried hatching eggs using fire, though it seems as I'd eggs could have hatched on their own as well (placed in the cradle).

Theories of a dragon in winterfell come from the great smoke snake with wings Bran sees leaving Winterfell through Summer's eyes at the end of Clash. Twoiaf gives us Jacaerys Velaryon who visited Winterfell with his dragon, who someone claims left eggs behind.

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So there is a theory of a dragon living beneath Winterfell, and warming the hit springs in the Godswood. Would it actually be possible for dragons to be hatched at such cold places? And where does the idea come from anyways? Where would the dragon eggs in the North come from?

 

There are several threads on this, it seems :)

 

Winterfell may be surrounded by the North that is regarded as a cold place, but as Catelyn notes, if the Starks love the cold so much, they have built their castle in the wrong place. That is because of the hot springs heating Winterfell, and that's where the dragon theories take root in.

Dragon eggs might have been brought anywhere by the dragons themselves, or as we see in Dunk&Egg by people dealing with them.

 

:ninja: 'd by @Rhaenys_Targaryen

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First post ever yay! (sorry if this has been asked before or if it's kind of a stupid question)

I'm doing a reread and I was wondering about the following: it is implied (by Gilly or one of Craster's his other wifes, don't have the book with me) that Craster gives his sons to The Others ('the gods'), and the show pretty much confirms this. Gilly they goes on to explain that when Craster doesn't have sons to offer to the 'gods', he offers sheep. Now, are there any reasons/theories as to why would he do this? What use could The Others possibly have for sheep?

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Carrying over from the previous thread.

 

The Royces having passed Winterfell some two years before mid-298, thus around mid-296, would place Waymar's arrival at the Wall in late 296, if he travelled slowly (the fact that they spend a fortnight at Winterfell might suggest they had no great haste of getting to CB).

Waymar had been at the Wall for less than half a year when he died, placing his drag in early to mid 297 AC. Bran I and Catelyn I take place in 298 AC, late in the first quarter.

How long it took Gared to get south of the Wall, we don't know. Even if Waymar arrived at CB in the last few days of 296 AC, Gared was running for a period close to 8-9 months before he got caught, as that would place Waymar's and Will's deaths in mid 297 AC.

 

 

When Sansa makes mention of the Royces coming to Winterfell she is at the tourney of the Hand which is in the 4th quarter of 298 (early in the quarter) so that can push the time frame forward by a quarter. Otherwise I agree much of your time frame for Ser Waymer's arrival at the wall, the stop at Winterfell for a fortnight does point to a slow trip and since his father is with him, the purpose of the trek may not solely be to see his son to the Wall (he could have had retainers or sworn swords do so).

 

Per the prologue Waymar was sworn brother less than half a year but people don't take the oath upon arrival so he may have arrived at the wall then taken his oath some time later and this was his first ranging, not necessary the first ranging after he swore his oath.

 

I do think you underestimate the speed that one person can travel between the lands north of the Wall and Winterfell. Mance Rayder (located somewhere beyond the Wall) hears of Robert's upcoming visit (third hand) after Ned sends a letter to Benjen in regards to his upcoming visit and makes the trip beating Robert's party to Winterfell.

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First post ever yay! (sorry if this has been asked before or if it's kind of a stupid question)

I'm doing a reread and I was wondering about the following: it is implied (by Gilly or one of Craster's his other wifes, don't have the book with me) that Craster gives his sons to The Others ('the gods'), and the show pretty much confirms this. Gilly they goes on to explain that when Craster doesn't have sons to offer to the 'gods', he offers sheep. Now, are there any reasons/theories as to why would he do this? What use could The Others possibly have for sheep?

 

Welcome @Haelena to the forum!

 

Hmm, I would not know. I think it certainly is meant to show the reader that Craster is pretty desperate to fulfill his part of the deal with "his gods"/Craster's sons. We do not learn in the books if the recipients of Craster's sons are indeed the others as you noted. I wonder if we ever will :)

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First post ever yay! (sorry if this has been asked before or if it's kind of a stupid question)

I'm doing a reread and I was wondering about the following: it is implied (by Gilly or one of Craster's his other wifes, don't have the book with me) that Craster gives his sons to The Others ('the gods'), and the show pretty much confirms this. Gilly they goes on to explain that when Craster doesn't have sons to offer to the 'gods', he offers sheep. Now, are there any reasons/theories as to why would he do this? What use could The Others possibly have for sheep?

 

Welcome to the board. A word of warning the show has no relevance when discussing the books. Here are the quote your talking about.

 

AcoK: Jon III

"For the baby, not for me. If it's a girl, that's not so bad, she'll grow a few years and he'll marry her. But Nella says it's to be a boy, and she's had six and knows these things. He gives the boys to the gods. Come the white cold, he does, and of late it comes more often. That's why he started giving them sheep, even though he has a taste for mutton. Only now the sheep's gone too. Next it will be dogs, till . . ." She lowered her eyes and stroked her belly.

Craster seems to have an agreement with the Others that requires a sacrifice, who knows what they actually do with the sacrifices. Later we learn what they apparently do with his sons.

 

ASoS: Samwell II

"The boy's brothers," said the old woman on the left. "Craster's sons. The white cold's rising out there, crow. I can feel it in my bones. These poor old bones don't lie. They'll be here soon, the sons."

 

Note that they refer to the white cold in both references, which brings us to question to they follow the white cold or does the white cold come with them?

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We don't know if there are limitations to a dragons living surrounding, through I can imagine there is. Eggs seem to need heath, several Targaryens tried hatching eggs using fire, though it seems as I'd eggs could have hatched on their own as well (placed in the cradle).

Theories of a dragon in winterfell come from the great smoke snake with wings Bran sees leaving Winterfell through Summer's eyes at the end of Clash. Twoiaf gives us Jacaerys Velaryon who visited Winterfell with his dragon, who someone claims left eggs behind.


Thanks for the answer I'm definitely gonna do a reread with that in mind!

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There are several threads on this, it seems :)
 
Winterfell may be surrounded by the North that is regarded as a cold place, but as Catelyn notes, if the Starks love the cold so much, they have built their castle in the wrong place. That is because of the hot springs heating Winterfell, and that's where the dragon theories take root in.

Dragon eggs might have been brought anywhere by the dragons themselves, or as we see in Dunk&Egg by people dealing with them.
 
:ninja: 'd by @Rhaenys_Targaryen


Thank you as well!! I shall give this site a look and then be back here if anymore questions should come up

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First post ever yay! (sorry if this has been asked before or if it's kind of a stupid question)
I'm doing a reread and I was wondering about the following: it is implied (by Gilly or one of Craster's his other wifes, don't have the book with me) that Craster gives his sons to The Others ('the gods'), and the show pretty much confirms this. Gilly they goes on to explain that when Craster doesn't have sons to offer to the 'gods', he offers sheep. Now, are there any reasons/theories as to why would he do this? What use could The Others possibly have for sheep?

Perhaps because Craster likes mutton, and sacrificing something that has value to you, might be received more kindly than sacrificing something you care nothing about.

Carrying over from the previous thread.
 

 
When Sansa makes mention of the Royces coming to Winterfell she is at the tourney of the Hand which is in the 4th quarter of 298 (early in the quarter) so that can push the time frame forward by a quarter. Otherwise I agree much of your time frame for Ser Waymer's arrival at the wall, the stop at Winterfell for a fortnight does point to a slow trip and since his father is with him, the purpose of the trek may not solely be to see his son to the Wall (he could have had retainers or sworn swords do so).
 
Per the prologue Waymar was sworn brother less than half a year but people don't take the oath upon arrival so he may have arrived at the wall then taken his oath some time later and this was his first ranging, not necessary the first ranging after he swore his oath.
 
I do think you underestimate the speed that one person can travel between the lands north of the Wall and Winterfell. Mance Rayder (located somewhere beyond the Wall) hears of Robert's upcoming visit (third hand) after Ned sends a letter to Benjen in regards to his upcoming visit and makes the trip beating Robert's party to Winterfell.

Considering everything that happens after the tourney, I place the tourney in the third quarter.

I do not underestimate Gareds speed of travel. I simply do not assume that his travel purpose was to go south and south and south some more. He was on foot, presumably, and especially in the beginning would have been blinded by fear. Crossing such lands on foot takes time, and he didn't pass CB, so whatever route he took, it was a long way around. Did he sneak past Eastwatch, or descent in the Gorge, or took another route? We don't know. Nor can you hardly have called him in a good state of mind when he was captured. Hardly a good state to travel with clear purpose.

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So there is a theory of a dragon living beneath Winterfell, and warming the hit springs in the Godswood. Would it actually be possible for dragons to be hatched at such cold places? And where does the idea come from anyways? Where would the dragon eggs in the North come from?


If you read the quote I think you are referring to from World, it goes on to say that the springs are related to vulcanism, since its fed by forces similar to Valyria and Dragonstone. Winterfell sounds similar to the Yellowstone region which is just a caldera.

As an aside, I think dragons need that type of environment to thrive. Which is why the Targ's dragons got weaker and weaker after they were moved to the pit at KL instead of dragonstone and possibly why Drogon is growing faster.

The dragons eggs came from Vermax, The Targ king visited the North on his dragon Vermax and stayed at Winterfell. The dragon found a warm spot and laid a clutch of eggs...or so the stories would have us believe.

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Per the prologue Waymar was sworn brother less than half a year but people don't take the oath upon arrival so he may have arrived at the wall then taken his oath some time later and this was his first ranging, not necessary the first ranging after he swore his oath.


Ser Waymar was a knight, and insisted it was his due as a knight to get his own command quickly. I don't see him agreeing to get trained before he took his vows, what's the use ? He's a knight. And I see Jeor having a big ceremony while Yohn Bronze is still at Castle Black, to please him.

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Ser Waymar was a knight, and insisted it was his due as a knight to get his own command quickly. I don't see him agreeing to get trained before he took his vows, what's the use ? He's a knight. And I see Jeor having a big ceremony while Yohn Bronze is still at Castle Black, to please him.

Completely agree.

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The dragons eggs came from Vermax, The Targ king visited the North on his dragon Vermax and stayed at Winterfell. The dragon found a warm spot and laid a clutch of eggs...or so the stories would have us believe.

That's what I was gonna say, yup. The theory predates both the Princess and the Queen and the world book actually, and before we knew of Jace going to Winterfell, people assumed the eggs would have ended up there after the Old King's visit. So that's another possibility!

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First post ever yay! (sorry if this has been asked before or if it's kind of a stupid question)

I'm doing a reread and I was wondering about the following: it is implied (by Gilly or one of Craster's his other wifes, don't have the book with me) that Craster gives his sons to The Others ('the gods'), and the show pretty much confirms this. Gilly they goes on to explain that when Craster doesn't have sons to offer to the 'gods', he offers sheep. Now, are there any reasons/theories as to why would he do this? What use could The Others possibly have for sheep?

The Sheep are the tell that lets the reader know that Craster's Sacrifices are not being received by the Others...

 

The 6th picture at the link below is an illustration depicting Gilly's observations of "Cold Gods" acquiring Craster's Sacrifices...

 

http://www.richardhescox.com/a-clash-of-kings-gallery.php

 

It is quite clear that these figures are not Others... At least not the Others that were introduced in the AGOTs Prologue...

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The Sheep are the tell that lets the reader know that Craster's Sacrifices are not being received by the Others...

 

The 6th picture at the link below is an illustration depicting Gilly's observations of "Cold Gods" acquiring Craster's Sacrifices...

 

http://www.richardhescox.com/a-clash-of-kings-gallery.php

 

It is quite clear that these figures are not Others... At least not the Others that were introduced in the AGOTs Prologue...

 

Are those pictures considered to be canon? Just curious.

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Was the tourney at HH during the year of the false spring an event that was expanded over a few days? Would that mean that Rhaegar might have saw Lyanna the first day and crowned her the last when he won?

 

From TWoIaF, competition lasted for seven days. So the event lasted for at least a week.

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