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15 minutes ago, Ran said:

I saw that explanation, and while it makes sense to me, if they just did 6 episodes rather than 8 they wouldn't have had the issue of needing him as filler to deal with Daphne Keen's limited availability. The pacing would have been improved a lot with two less episodes, IMO.

I was thinking more that looking ahead they would’ve foreseen problems with availability (for both kids) and tried to limit it by including his solo scenes earlier.

I agree that the show has too many superfluous scenes though.  Even if you exclude Will’s scenes, there’s still too little story for the number of minutes.

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I don’t mind Will’s scenes too much, although dragging them out has had the downside of making the guys trying to steal the letters look pretty dumb. They’ve spent days and days now watching a house with one mentally ill occupant during the day, in their super secret location of ‘half way down the drive in plain sight’, I’m not really sure if they’re supposed to be intimidating her? Or are they shooting for stealthy? Then they decide to break in to the house with no clue that they might be back any minute, and still fail to find the letters. Got your best men on the job there I see.

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Honestly not sure I agree at all regarding the superfluous scenes. It needs to breathe after all. That said you could probably cut a fair amount of the Magisterium scenes, but I quite enjoy the performances in them.

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To me it looked as though the cat specifically attacked the guy at just the right moment, flying at him. This was enforced for me by the yowling, the same sounds and register when a cat attacks something like a dog or another cat.

I do have pretty poor vision though.  But my hearing is very good!

Plus there were those multiple significant close-up shots of The Cat without even people in the frame, starting with the first and coerced entry of the Bad Guy into the house.

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4 minutes ago, Zorral said:

To me it looked as though the cat specifically attacked the guy at just the right moment, flying at him. This was enforced for me by the yowling, the same sounds and register when a cat attacks something like a dog or another cat.

Spoiler

I think all of that is deliberately foreshadowing the fact that Will's daemon [when he gets one] will settle as a cat, rather than indicating that this specific cat is a daemon.

 

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13 minutes ago, Ran said:
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I think all of that is deliberately foreshadowing the fact that Will's daemon [when he gets one] will settle as a cat, rather than indicating that this specific cat is a daemon.

 

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On 12/18/2019 at 10:25 AM, HelenaExMachina said:

Couldn't disagree more about the Will sections, I feel like they have been a real highlight of the season and I particularly like what they have done with Boreal. It helps that the actors for Will, his mother and Boreal are all doing some fine work 

Was gonna say if you compare the acting performances in both worlds for quality, I know which one comes out on top. If these were weak performances or if these were characters we didn't care about then, yes it might weaken the overall value of the show. I'm hugely into what is happening with Will's story. More so than in the books, even. That's down to the acting and directing.

I've said it before and I'll say it again: I'm sad that we don't see more daemons, especially Pan and his interaction with Lyra (because I think it is key to the story). However, I am really impressed by the additional level of nuance and characterisation we get for Mrs Coulter from seeing her daemon's actions and appearances and how they react to each other. I find it mesmerising. It's possibly my favourite thing about the show.

Actually I was out with a friend tonight and they said they hadn't watched the show yet because they found Ruth Wilson weird and creepy in Luther... :rolleyes: I expressed my gigantic disappointment.

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4 hours ago, Zorral said:

To me it looked as though the cat specifically attacked the guy at just the right moment, flying at him. This was enforced for me by the yowling, the same sounds and register when a cat attacks something like a dog or another cat.

I do have pretty poor vision though.  But my hearing is very good!

Plus there were those multiple significant close-up shots of The Cat without even people in the frame, starting with the first and coerced entry of the Bad Guy into the house.

Cats tend to yowl when you step on them

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Has Ruth Wilson ever played a sympathetic character, and if so can she do it as well.  I only know her from HDM - terrifying, Luther - Batshit insane and the affair - creepy mental. All of which I found her amazing in.

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1 hour ago, Isis said:

Was gonna say if you compare the acting performances in both worlds for quality, I know which one comes out on top.

Will's actor has made no impact on me, Lord Boreal's good but became overbearingly obvious in his approach to Will's mother, his lackeys are colorless. The mother's the only one I'd consider exceptional. Whereas characters like Mrs. Coulter, Farder Coram, Serafina Pekkala, and Lyra tend to capture my interest (I do think Lin-Manuel Miranda is doing just _okay_ as Lee Scoresby) because of the performances. And I thought Iofur and Iorek have been very well voice acted.

But again, mileage, it does vary.

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1 hour ago, BigFatCoward said:

Has Ruth Wilson ever played a sympathetic character, and if so can she do it as well.  I only know her from HDM - terrifying, Luther - Batshit insane and the affair - creepy mental. All of which I found her amazing in.

Her character in The Affair is very sympathetic.  Even so, there's something about her on screen that I don't much care for, which makes no sense whatsoever, it's just a visceral thing, which is why we need lots of actors because none of them appeal to all of us.

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On 12/16/2019 at 1:44 AM, SpaceChampion said:

for reference:

 

 

Even though that one is closer to the book, I much preferred the show's version. It just looked and felt better, less like a computer game as with the above. Yeah they don't fight with armour, it's not a big deal. Same as with all the bears creepily clutching their fake daemons

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7 hours ago, Zorral said:

Her character in The Affair is very sympathetic.  Even so, there's something about her on screen that I don't much care for, which makes no sense whatsoever, it's just a visceral thing, which is why we need lots of actors because none of them appeal to all of us.

I only watched s1 but I didn't find her likeable at all. Each to their own. 

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23 hours ago, BigFatCoward said:

Has Ruth Wilson ever played a sympathetic character, and if so can she do it as well.  I only know her from HDM - terrifying, Luther - Batshit insane and the affair - creepy mental. All of which I found her amazing in.

I was looking at her resume and was startled to see that she was in the original Time Commanders, getting thousands of Roman soldiers killed.

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28 minutes ago, Werthead said:

I was looking at her resume and was startled to see that she was in the original Time Commanders, getting thousands of Roman soldiers killed.

Oh my god, it's true. Hah.

 

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22 hours ago, Zorral said:

Her character in The Affair is very sympathetic.  Even so, there's something about her on screen that I don't much care for, which makes no sense whatsoever, it's just a visceral thing, which is why we need lots of actors because none of them appeal to all of us.

She reminds me of a Simpson's character. Don;t get me wrong, I think she's fantastic in this role.. but ,,,, um... the Simpsons. 

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10 hours ago, Martini Sigil said:

She reminds me of a Simpson's character. Don;t get me wrong, I think she's fantastic in this role.. but ,,,, um... the Simpsons.

What?

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8 hours ago, Spockydog said:

It's the mouth. 

That overbite is really annoying if the viewer isn't one of those for whom it is really sexy.

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3 hours ago, Zorral said:

That overbite is really annoying if the viewer isn't one of those for whom it is really sexy.

Orthodontosexuals?

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