The Anti-Targ Posted May 4, 2017 Share Posted May 4, 2017 Trailer seems like generic action movie #500. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Myrddin Posted May 4, 2017 Share Posted May 4, 2017 Have they announced the rating anywhere? Is this sanitized PG-13 or Stephen King R? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isis Posted May 4, 2017 Share Posted May 4, 2017 Fans forget the faces of their fathers So this is nice I have to say that the PJ adaptation of LOTR cured me of being a purist. If I could live through seeing that get mauled, misued, mishandled, and occasionally become almost-but-not-quite-right then I live through any book to screen adaptation. And, what TWD has shown is that it is possible to take source material and do different stuff with it, i.e. to not do a like-for-like transformation. American Gods will do that too. I APPROVE. Bring it on, I say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aFeastForDragons Posted May 4, 2017 Share Posted May 4, 2017 ^TDT is looking like if in LOTR Frodo had to try and convince Gandalf that the ring needed to be destroyed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ser Scot A Ellison Posted May 4, 2017 Share Posted May 4, 2017 On 5/3/2017 at 3:28 PM, Channel4s-JonSnow said: Did I notice the hotel from the shining in the trailer tho? I caught that on the counselor's table. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ser Scot A Ellison Posted May 4, 2017 Share Posted May 4, 2017 1 hour ago, Isis said: Fans forget the faces of their fathers So this is nice I have to say that the PJ adaptation of LOTR cured me of being a purist. If I could live through seeing that get mauled, misued, mishandled, and occasionally become almost-but-not-quite-right then I live through any book to screen adaptation. And, what TWD has shown is that it is possible to take source material and do different stuff with it, i.e. to not do a like-for-like transformation. American Gods will do that too. I APPROVE. Bring it on, I say. FOTR was pretty good but the films got worse from there. RTOK had some good moments but... it really had some bad ones too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martini Sigil Posted May 4, 2017 Share Posted May 4, 2017 This won't really be The Dark Tower... There is no way to take seven novels of source material and turn it into a two hour movie.... So this will be something based upon The Dark Tower... if you think about it that way, it might be enjoyable.. If you judge it by novels, you're bound to be disappointed... This is why I prefer TV when adapting books and Graphic novels... As for comparing TDT and American Gods... I don;t see the point... it all comes down to personal preference.... But its noteworthy tht American Gods is one novel getting 10 hours of a first season in a TV series.... and Dark Tower is seven novels getting one 2 hour --or thereabouts-- movie.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corvinus85 Posted May 4, 2017 Share Posted May 4, 2017 18 minutes ago, Martini Sigil said: This won't really be The Dark Tower... There is no way to take seven novels of source material and turn it into a two hour movie.... So this will be something based upon The Dark Tower... if you think about it that way, it might be enjoyable.. If you judge it by novels, you're bound to be disappointed... This is why I prefer TV when adapting books and Graphic novels... As for comparing TDT and American Gods... I don;t see the point... it all comes down to personal preference.... But its noteworthy tht American Gods is one novel getting 10 hours of a first season in a TV series.... and Dark Tower is seven novels getting one 2 hour --or thereabouts-- movie.... My understanding is that a TV show will follow the film. And there may be two films. Or did that get cancelled? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isis Posted May 4, 2017 Share Posted May 4, 2017 No, that is still going to happen I think. The reason I was comparing American Gods and The Dark Tower is that they are contemporary examples of popular fantasy source material getting adapted for the screen where viewers are aware in advance that there will be notable changes to the original material, ie new content will be added. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Channel4s-JonSnow Posted May 4, 2017 Share Posted May 4, 2017 1 hour ago, Martini Sigil said: This won't really be The Dark Tower... There is no way to take seven novels of source material and turn it into a two hour movie.... So this will be something based upon The Dark Tower... if you think about it that way, it might be enjoyable.. If you judge it by novels, you're bound to be disappointed... This is why I prefer TV when adapting books and Graphic novels... As for comparing TDT and American Gods... I don;t see the point... it all comes down to personal preference.... But its noteworthy tht American Gods is one novel getting 10 hours of a first season in a TV series.... and Dark Tower is seven novels getting one 2 hour --or thereabouts-- movie.... Imagine if they followed the books pattern. 3 movies and then a prequel movie that seems unrelated and then 3 more awful movies that completely ruin everything you've seen previously Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martini Sigil Posted May 4, 2017 Share Posted May 4, 2017 Just now, Channel4s-JonSnow said: Imagine if they followed the books pattern. 3 movies and then a prequel movie that seems unrelated and then 3 more awful movies that completely ruin everything you've seen previously There are ways around that.... they dont have to show it linearly .... but I'm sure you know that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Channel4s-JonSnow Posted May 4, 2017 Share Posted May 4, 2017 You could start with Stephen King telling everyone about his car accident and then making sure he's somewhere in every scene for no reason .. and work the story around that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Relic Posted May 4, 2017 Share Posted May 4, 2017 9 hours ago, Myrddin said: Have they announced the rating anywhere? Is this sanitized PG-13 or Stephen King R? Looks very PG13 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ugh already Posted May 5, 2017 Share Posted May 5, 2017 This looks like an expensive a-list actor version of the 90s King ABC adaptations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Channel4s-JonSnow Posted May 5, 2017 Share Posted May 5, 2017 7 hours ago, ugh already said: This looks like an expensive a-list actor version of the 90s King ABC adaptations. Lol. For me that is the epitome of bad tv from the 90's and everything that should be avoided. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
briantw Posted May 5, 2017 Share Posted May 5, 2017 11 hours ago, Channel4s-JonSnow said: Imagine if they followed the books pattern. 3 movies and then a prequel movie that seems unrelated and then 3 more awful movies that completely ruin everything you've seen previously Kind of similar to pulling a Lucas, although in that case the prequel is the three awful movies that completely ruin everything you've seen previously. As for the trailer, it really does seem like they're trying to compress the entire series into one movie, which seems...awful? Not a fan of the crazy reloading and shit either. I would have preferred a more western style with some sci-fi elements rather than whatever the fuck that trailer was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Channel4s-JonSnow Posted May 5, 2017 Share Posted May 5, 2017 Just now, briantw said: Kind of similar to pulling a Lucas, although in that case the prequel is the three awful movies that completely ruin everything you've seen previously. Lol, yes. Fair play to Lucas though, he didn't reveal that the entire Star Wars Universe was set inside his brain and that he was the God of Star Wars that all things revolve around... even if thats how he secretly feels about the franchise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
briantw Posted May 5, 2017 Share Posted May 5, 2017 Just now, Channel4s-JonSnow said: Lol, yes. Fair play to Lucas though, he didn't reveal that the entire Star Wars Universe was set inside his brain and that he was the God of Star Wars that all things revolve around... even if thats how he secretly feels about the franchise. True, but he did make Jar Jar, so fuck him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aFeastForDragons Posted May 5, 2017 Share Posted May 5, 2017 From the looks of it we are getting: Roland chasing and catching up with the MIB(The Gunslinger) Jake having visions and coming to mid-world via the haunted house(Mix of the Gunslinger and Wastelands) Lud or Tull but with Taheen(Mix of Wastelands and The Dark Tower) Roland coming to earth(Mix of Drawing of the Three and Wolves/The Dark Tower) Hard to see where Susan and Eddie will fit in if there are even plans to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
red snow Posted May 5, 2017 Share Posted May 5, 2017 3 hours ago, Channel4s-JonSnow said: Lol, yes. Fair play to Lucas though, he didn't reveal that the entire Star Wars Universe was set inside his brain and that he was the God of Star Wars that all things revolve around... even if thats how he secretly feels about the franchise. While there is an element of that in the books King acknowledges that he essentially acts as a conduit for the story rather than it's under his control. Otherwise he wouldn't be at risk of death and wouldn't point out at length that he only writes what comes to him even when it's an element he doesn't want to write eg character deaths, etc. It's still a bit meta/indulgent but not as straight-forward as you make out. If anything he's probably admitting to what most authors are when creating a story if they realise it or not they fundamentally are responsible for that story existing. Beyond that is the question of where do ideas come from - in this case the Dark Tower. 2 hours ago, aFeastForDragons said: From the looks of it we are getting: Roland chasing and catching up with the MIB(The Gunslinger) Jake having visions and coming to mid-world via the haunted house(Mix of the Gunslinger and Wastelands) Lud or Tull but with Taheen(Mix of Wastelands and The Dark Tower) Roland coming to earth(Mix of Drawing of the Three and Wolves/The Dark Tower) Hard to see where Susan and Eddie will fit in if there are even plans to. They did say they'd be drawing from the first three books. I don't think there's been any mention of Susan or Eddie in the books (hopefully we'll get an Eddie Easter egg in the New York segments). It doesn't mean they won't appear in the sequels although Susan will require some serious rethinking. The split personalities and the intentional stereotyping of her speech is something that was uncomfortable to read - it'd be even more problematic on screen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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