ndye5555 Posted January 20, 2016 Share Posted January 20, 2016 Hey guys, I'm new to the forum and this is my first topic, but I haven't seen it before and thought it might be interesting. I was wondering, if George were to tell Robert's Rebellion using the POV structure utilized in ASOIAF, who might be the principle POV characters and what events might we see through their eyes? For example, I think it would be fascinating/heartbreaking to see Rickard and Brandon's execution at the hands of the Mad King through Brandon's POV, or even Jaime's. Or perhaps the TOJ through Howland Reed's POV, or the Trident through Lewyn Martell or Barristan Selmy. What do you guys think? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Good Guy Garlan Posted January 20, 2016 Share Posted January 20, 2016 Welcome to the forum! I think he'd keep most of the POVs we already have in the series, unless a new one is absolutely necessary, so something like: Cat: we see Brandon going to KL to face Rhaegar Jaime: we see Aerys burning the Starks Ned: we see Jon Arryn raising his banners and the journey from the Sisters to the North Cressen: we see Robert amassing his troops, telling Stannis to hold Storm's End Arianne: we see Doran and Oberyn furious about Elia's state as a hostage but sending their spears anyway Asha: we see Quellon's hesitation about joining the war Cat: we see her and Ned's wedding, and Lysa and Jon's Tyrion: we see Tywin saying Aerys fucked up by appointing JonCon as Hand JonCon: we see the Battle of the Bells Davos: we see him arrive with the onions to SE Barristan: we see the Trident and Rhaegar's death Victarion: we see Quellon's death at the Mander Jaime: we see him kill Aerys Ned: we see the Tower of Joy Hotah (ugh): we see Doran react to the news of the deaths of Elia and her kids Aeron: we see Balon already removing most of his father's reforms The epilogue would be Cersei's wedding day, her looking at Robert, smiling and thinking, "This is it, I'm going to love this man for the rest of my days" The End But I think we'd need a POV in Dragonstone (Viserys), one in the Vale to show us the Battle of Gulltown (Littlefinger), and one in the Reach camp (Randyll Tarly?) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackfyre Bastard Posted January 20, 2016 Share Posted January 20, 2016 ^^^ I think Asha would've been 6 years old and Viserys 7, too young to understand everything that was going on (yes, I know Bran was 7 at the begginig of AGoT, but I'd like to see the events related with a little depth, not the understanding of a child). Dragonstone's POV could be Willem Darry, maybe? The Damphair at this point would be fun, since he's still a hot blooded frat boy and not a zealot with the personality of a nail. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Good Guy Garlan Posted January 20, 2016 Share Posted January 20, 2016 8 minutes ago, Blackfyre Bastard said: ^^^ I think Asha would've been 6 years old and Viserys 7, too young to understand everything that was going on (yes, I know Bran was 7 at the begginig of AGoT, but I'd like to see the events related with a little depth, not the understanding of a child). Dragonstone's POV could be Willem Darry, maybe? The Damphair at this point would be fun, since he's still a hot blooded frat boy and not a zealot with the personality of a nail. Hmmmm, I agree about Asha, but there's something fascinating about a kid Viserys's age being told he carries the world's most powerful dynasty on his little shoulders. No wonder why Viserys ended up the way he did, that pressure would screw anyone's head. Agree on the Damphair, I'm still hoping the old Aeron is in there somewhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackfyre Bastard Posted January 20, 2016 Share Posted January 20, 2016 29 minutes ago, Good Guy Garlan said: Hmmmm, I agree about Asha, but there's something fascinating about a kid Viserys's age being told he carries the world's most powerful dynasty on his little shoulders. No wonder why Viserys ended up the way he did, that pressure would screw anyone's head. Agree on the Damphair, I'm still hoping the old Aeron is in there somewhere. Who would be the prologue POV? It has to be someone who witnesses Harrenhal tourney, the KotLT, Rhaegar's search, and who dies at the end. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
princess_snow Posted January 20, 2016 Share Posted January 20, 2016 1 hour ago, Good Guy Garlan said: Welcome to the forum! I think he'd keep most of the POVs we already have in the series, unless a new one is absolutely necessary, so something like: Cat: we see Brandon going to KL to face Rhaegar Jaime: we see Aerys burning the Starks Ned: we see Jon Arryn raising his banners and the journey from the Sisters to the North Cressen: we see Robert amassing his troops, telling Stannis to hold Storm's End Arianne: we see Doran and Oberyn furious about Elia's state as a hostage but sending their spears anyway Asha: we see Quellon's hesitation about joining the war Cat: we see her and Ned's wedding, and Lysa and Jon's Tyrion: we see Tywin saying Aerys fucked up by appointing JonCon as Hand JonCon: we see the Battle of the Bells Davos: we see him arrive with the onions to SE Barristan: we see the Trident and Rhaegar's death Victarion: we see Quellon's death at the Mander Jaime: we see him kill Aerys Ned: we see the Tower of Joy Hotah (ugh): we see Doran react to the news of the deaths of Elia and her kids Aeron: we see Balon already removing most of his father's reforms The epilogue would be Cersei's wedding day, her looking at Robert, smiling and thinking, "This is it, I'm going to love this man for the rest of my days" The End But I think we'd need a POV in Dragonstone (Viserys), one in the Vale to show us the Battle of Gulltown (Littlefinger), and one in the Reach camp (Randyll Tarly?) Perfect list ! That would be an amazing read. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PyroclasticFlow Posted January 20, 2016 Share Posted January 20, 2016 Idea for prologue: Ilyn Payne, how he gets his tongue ripped out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arrow of the Morning Posted January 20, 2016 Share Posted January 20, 2016 We would have some POVs from the ASOIAF, but I think Gorge wold add some POVs Eddard Stark - We would see the Vale with him, his friendship with Robert and Jon Arryn and his relationship with his father and siblings as well as many things that happened during the Robert Rebellion. Catelyn Tully - We would see her passion for Brandon and her relationship with Littlefinger, see their duel and how she reacted to Brandon imprisonment and death, her reaction when she first saw Eddard, their marriage and reaction when she learned about Jon Snow. Jaime Lannister - We would met his father and young Cersei as well his enthusiasm with knighthood, see him choosing to enter in the Kingsguard, he serving Aerys and witnessing the execution of the Starks, the wildfire plot and he killing Aerys. Davos - All the story that led him to Storm's End with the onions. Jon Connington - He was of the close circle of friends of Rhaegar and we would see him trying t win the favor of the prince. How he reacted when Rhaegar gave the Crown of flowers to Lyanna? We would know. And finally the Battle of the Bells. Barristan Selmy - We would see he serving the Mad King, his love for Ashara and the Battle of the Trident Cersei Lannister - She trying to get Jaime in the Kingsguard and seeing the prophecy of Maggy starting to come true. Kevan Lannister - He would be our eyes in Tywin Lannister. ________________________________________________________________________________________ And we could have some new POVs. Lyanna - That would be awesome! Howland Reed - We would see the Green men, he seen Harrenhal and reacting to all the pageantry, meeting the Starks and the RR as well. Arthur Dayne - Jon Con is close to Rhaegar, but Arthur Dayne even more and we could see Rhaegar's actions and motivations. Stannis Baratheon - He resisting in Storm's End and making tough decisions. Doran Martell - He reacting to Elia imprisonment and her death. Other characetrs would be interesting POVs and could be good choices: Rhaegar, Elia Martell, Benjen Stark, Ashara Dayne, Brandon Stark, Littlefinger, Rickard Stark. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
khal drogon Posted January 20, 2016 Share Posted January 20, 2016 There should be an Aerys Targaryen and Rhaegar Targaryen POVs. Also that of Martells and Littlefinger. The POVs mentioned by people above will tell the same story we have already heard in a detailed way,but not the hidden truths and the royalist side. If I want to read a book I don't want to read the rebel version again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ndye5555 Posted January 20, 2016 Author Share Posted January 20, 2016 On 1/20/2016 at 0:32 AM, Blackfyre Bastard said: I think Asha would've been 6 years old and Viserys 7, too young to understand everything that was going on (yes, I know Bran was 7 at the begginig of AGoT, but I'd like to see the events related with a little depth, not the understanding of a child). Dragonstone's POV could be Willem Darry, maybe? The Damphair at this point would be fun, since he's still a hot blooded frat boy and not a zealot with the personality of A Willem Dairy POV would be great. We would get to see how spiriting away the Targaryens played out leading up to the house with the red door. Also a 6 year old Arianna might not work too great as a POV but Areo Hotah would be cool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lady Fishbiscuit Posted January 20, 2016 Share Posted January 20, 2016 If I had a wish list for PoVs for this and it could be new ones (including people now dead), I'd say Robert, Tywin, Rhaegar (or Lyanna) and Howland Reed. As well as the story we'd also find out more about who they are and how they think. If it had to be existing PoVs, then I'd want Ned, Jon Connington and Jaime, so as we could see it from the perspective of Team Stark/Baratheon, Team Targaryen and Lannister (who I see as a rogue 3rd side in RR). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ser Few of the Fingers Posted January 20, 2016 Share Posted January 20, 2016 First book in year 2020: we get POVs of characters who were not at the tourney of Harrenhal, like Cersei, Cat, Viserys, Arianne. It ends with The Starks being burnt alive. Second book in 2027: we get mostly food descriptions of both Mace's feasts outside Storms End, and onion descriptions from Davos. Also, we get POV of Oberyn traveling through Essos and his own Lyseni Knot trying to convince the Second Sons to join the Rebellion on the Targaryen side (and obbviously failing). Third book: although HBO had said that they were not interested in telling Roberts Rebellion, 10 years go by and they decide to do it, catching up with GRRM and spoiling everything before the last book is published. And we are still waiting for aDoS. The end. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dariopatke Posted January 20, 2016 Share Posted January 20, 2016 I would like Stannis' POV (siege), Rheagar (something preHarenhall, abducting of Lyanna and ToJ and Trident) , Robert(Bells, Trident, arriving to KL when being presented bodies of Aegon and Rheanys), Ned(Harenhall, ToJ, Starfall) , Jaime (burning of Rickard, killing king with Neds arrival) and maybe Willem Darry (escape from Dragonstone). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Good Guy Garlan Posted January 20, 2016 Share Posted January 20, 2016 8 hours ago, Blackfyre Bastard said: Who would be the prologue POV? It has to be someone who witnesses Harrenhal tourney, the KotLT, Rhaegar's search, and who dies at the end. 8 hours ago, PyroclasticFlow said: Idea for prologue: Ilyn Payne, how he gets his tongue ripped out Prologue: Ilyn Payne's tongue It ends with Aerys' saying, "When you play the game of tongues..." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melisandre's White Pubes Posted January 20, 2016 Share Posted January 20, 2016 Aeron was a prisoner at Casterly Rock for a while, and many Lannister's came to watch his urination abilities. He could overhear Tywin discussing his plans while he's there for a hearth-pissing show. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Endymion I Targaryen Posted January 22, 2016 Share Posted January 22, 2016 Aerys,Robert,Rhaegar, Elia and Lyanna are out of the table.I think we would have: Jaime Lannister- King's Landing POV Ned Stark - insight on house Stark + Rebel's POV Catelyn Tully - Insight on Brandon, Lysa, LF. Davos Seaworth - Smallfolk POV + Battles in the south + siege of Dragonstone/Dany's escape Howland Reed - Tourney POV Barristan Selmy - royalists's POV + Insight on Ashara Dayne Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bent branch Posted January 22, 2016 Share Posted January 22, 2016 On 1/20/2016 at 11:00 PM, khal drogon said: There should be an Aerys Targaryen and Rhaegar Targaryen POVs. Also that of Martells and Littlefinger. The POVs mentioned by people above will tell the same story we have already heard in a detailed way,but not the hidden truths and the royalist side. If I want to read a book I don't want to read the rebel version again. I agree that it would be great to get Targaryen side of the story. We really don't know anything about that side of the story. Wouldn't people like to know why Aerys called for Ned and Robert's heads. He's crazy isn't an answer. Even if he was crazy (and I do think he was pretty bad by this time) he still must have had some reason, if it was a crazy one. We definitely don't know enough about the Targaryen side of the story to truly know what happened in RR. Any telling of that tale without the Targaryen's side is, as you point out, just a rehashing of what we already know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Suburbs Posted January 22, 2016 Share Posted January 22, 2016 I can only imagine these boards if we were between novels and Rhaegar was marching up the Kings Road to meet Robert on the Trident: Of course Rhaegar won't die. He's the main character, AA reborn, the PtwP, he has plot armor. It wouldn't make sense for him to die. He needs to complete his "arc" and fulfill his role in the narrative. Why would we have all those POVs if he were just to die? And then what? Robert becomes king? How stupid would that be? Robert's a pig. Lyanna never loved him anyway. True love must always triumph. The good guy has to win. Rhaegar could not possible die, not ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
desire Posted January 22, 2016 Share Posted January 22, 2016 On 20/01/2016 at 6:09 AM, Good Guy Garlan said: Welcome to the forum! I think he'd keep most of the POVs we already have in the series, unless a new one is absolutely necessary, so something like: Cat: we see Brandon going to KL to face Rhaegar Jaime: we see Aerys burning the Starks Ned: we see Jon Arryn raising his banners and the journey from the Sisters to the North Cressen: we see Robert amassing his troops, telling Stannis to hold Storm's End Arianne: we see Doran and Oberyn furious about Elia's state as a hostage but sending their spears anyway Asha: we see Quellon's hesitation about joining the war Cat: we see her and Ned's wedding, and Lysa and Jon's Tyrion: we see Tywin saying Aerys fucked up by appointing JonCon as Hand JonCon: we see the Battle of the Bells Davos: we see him arrive with the onions to SE Barristan: we see the Trident and Rhaegar's death Victarion: we see Quellon's death at the Mander Jaime: we see him kill Aerys Ned: we see the Tower of Joy Hotah (ugh): we see Doran react to the news of the deaths of Elia and her kids Aeron: we see Balon already removing most of his father's reforms The epilogue would be Cersei's wedding day, her looking at Robert, smiling and thinking, "This is it, I'm going to love this man for the rest of my days" The End But I think we'd need a POV in Dragonstone (Viserys), one in the Vale to show us the Battle of Gulltown (Littlefinger), and one in the Reach camp (Randyll Tarly?) That would be pretty close tbh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dsug Posted January 23, 2016 Share Posted January 23, 2016 Ned Stark Catelyn Tully Jaime Lannister Howland Reed I think Queen Rhaella would be an interesting one. She's the one Targaryen who' pretty been a non-character the whole series. Show me the Mad King's actions from his Queen's perspective. I wouldn't wanna see the ending wedding from Cersei's POV. Give me Ned or Catelyn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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