karaddin Posted February 2, 2016 Share Posted February 2, 2016 Just saw this on the CNN feed and it has me laughing Quote Moderator asks room for a surrogate speaker for @JebBush. In room of 700, no one raised their hand. Audible gasps. #IaCaucus Jeb! has just been baffling Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Marquis de Leech Posted February 2, 2016 Share Posted February 2, 2016 Hillary with a useful lead after 15%. Cruz currently edging out Trump after 3%. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalbear Posted February 2, 2016 Share Posted February 2, 2016 Clinton leading is interesting. How she's leading is more so - Iowa has rules around having more counties represented and so far she has something like 65% of all the counties. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karaddin Posted February 2, 2016 Author Share Posted February 2, 2016 I saw one point about Bernie support being heavily slanted to youth who are clustered in the college town caucuses, which is hurting him. It claimed in 2008 the caucus was before school was back, so they weren't so concentrated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Anti-Targ Posted February 2, 2016 Share Posted February 2, 2016 It looks like it might not matter who O'Malley endorses when he drops out. But I think endorsements from Republican drop outs will affect the outcome of the republican primary, assuming of course Trump and Cruz remain close through most of the first round of primaries / caucuses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Anti-Targ Posted February 2, 2016 Share Posted February 2, 2016 3 minutes ago, karaddin said: I saw one point about Bernie support being heavily slanted to youth who are clustered in the college town caucuses, which is hurting him. It claimed in 2008 the caucus was before school was back, so they weren't so concentrated. Shouldn't your vote be based on your permanent address, not where you happen to be going to school? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shryke Posted February 2, 2016 Share Posted February 2, 2016 4 minutes ago, karaddin said: I saw one point about Bernie support being heavily slanted to youth who are clustered in the college town caucuses, which is hurting him. It claimed in 2008 the caucus was before school was back, so they weren't so concentrated. Yeah, I've seen the same saying Sanders is gonna have trouble getting a delegate lead even if he has more of the popular vote. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Anti-Targ Posted February 2, 2016 Share Posted February 2, 2016 Wow a big bunch of precincts reporting in for Bernie shifted things a fair bit and now the gap is only 5%. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karaddin Posted February 2, 2016 Author Share Posted February 2, 2016 6 minutes ago, Shryke said: Yeah, I've seen the same saying Sanders is gonna have trouble getting a delegate lead even if he has more of the popular vote. The US has so many different systems, I can't keep track of it all. This seems pretty absurd though. AT - I assume its because it's a caucus, so you have to physically be at the location for the purposes of being counted rather than simply leaving a vote there. Pure speculation though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrackerNeil Posted February 2, 2016 Share Posted February 2, 2016 7 minutes ago, The Anti-Targ said: Shouldn't your vote be based on your permanent address, not where you happen to be going to school? Not necessarily, no. People who go to school three hours from home might not want to spend six hours on the road just to vote. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shryke Posted February 2, 2016 Share Posted February 2, 2016 1 minute ago, karaddin said: The US has so many different systems, I can't keep track of it all. This seems pretty absurd though. Caucuses are absurd. Especially the Democratic Party ones as I understand. It's a weird stupid system. Exploiting that crazy system is part of how Obama won in 2008, as a random factoid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrackerNeil Posted February 2, 2016 Share Posted February 2, 2016 1 minute ago, Shryke said: Caucuses are absurd. Especially the Democratic Party ones as I understand. It's a weird stupid system. Exploiting that crazy system is part of how Obama won in 2008, as a random factoid. It is stupid, and it favors those privileged enough to stand around for hours in a gymnasium. Why do they do it that way? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalbear Posted February 2, 2016 Share Posted February 2, 2016 Started not too long ago, iirc, and was continued because of how relevant it made Iowa and NH. It's one of many different dumb choices. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shryke Posted February 2, 2016 Share Posted February 2, 2016 3 minutes ago, TrackerNeil said: It is stupid, and it favors those privileged enough to stand around for hours in a gymnasium. Why do they do it that way? Cause America does democracy stupid. Like many things in the system, the Iowa caucus system dates back to like the 19-th century.Kinda anyway. I think it's changed somewhat since then to tamp down on the blatant corruption. Since the new system began in .. 1972 I think, it's been hugely important because Iowa is the first primary but it's always been stupid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrackerNeil Posted February 2, 2016 Share Posted February 2, 2016 Just now, Shryke said: Cause America does democracy stupid. Like many things in the system, the Iowa caucus system dates back to like the 19-th century.Kinda anyway. I think it's changed somewhat since then to tamp down on the blatant corruption. Since the new system began in .. 1972 I think, it's been hugely important because Iowa is the first primary but it's always been stupid. I can just see the bumper sticker: "America...we do democracy stupid." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalbear Posted February 2, 2016 Share Posted February 2, 2016 Remember how Ben Carson was the leader in the polls for a short time? He's a bit above 2%. Which is still better than Jeb! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrackerNeil Posted February 2, 2016 Share Posted February 2, 2016 Just now, Kalbear said: Remember how Ben Carson was the leader in the polls for a short time? He's a bit above 2%. Which is still better than Jeb! I was totally thinking that, somewhere tonight, Jeb Bush is questioning every decision that's brought him to this point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karaddin Posted February 2, 2016 Author Share Posted February 2, 2016 I can't help but think he doesn't want to be president but couldn't bring himself to tell Dad, so he's going along with it and throwing the campaign. Only way I can make sense of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shryke Posted February 2, 2016 Share Posted February 2, 2016 9 minutes ago, TrackerNeil said: I was totally thinking that, somewhere tonight, Jeb Bush is questioning every decision that's brought him to this point. Last I heard, JEB! was hoping to place in 5th tonight. If all went well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shryke Posted February 2, 2016 Share Posted February 2, 2016 Also, never watch a caucus on TV. It will convince you democracy as a system is a failure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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