Evolett Posted May 17, 2016 Share Posted May 17, 2016 (edited) Some thoughts in connection with the runes on Illyn Payne’s new sword: While looking at female swords – Dark Sister and Lady Forlorn, I realized that Dark Sister pretty much describes Visenya, who first wielded it. Now, Visenya and Arya also share many characteristics and in particular, Arya is a very Dark Sister. So that got me wondering whether Rhaenys and Sansa (who also correlate), neither of whom had/have special swords, can also be described in terms of a female sword. Lady Forlorn, currently owned by Lyn Corbray fits the bill for both. Both Rhaenys and Sansa have the ‘forlorn’ surrounding them, Rhaenys dying alone in Dorne and Sansa was left forlorn and alone in King’s Landing. There is one more forlorn lady I’ll come to in a bit. Sansa’s wolf Lady may also be a nod at Lady Forlorn and this is where Ice comes in. Lady was Ned’s last execution before he was executed by Ilyn Payne. Note the wordplay here: Illyn/Lyn. It’s quite monstrous to be executed with one’s own sword, especially a Valyrian steel sword wrought with magic and sacrifices. I think Ser Illyn felt haunted after the execution and the reason for the runes on Ser Illyn’s new sword is protection from the revnant (either Ned’s or that of the sword). We recall that swords keep the ghosts of the kings of winter within their tomb – in the days of runic writing, the runes probably served this purpose (as on Tristifer Mudd’s tomb). Whatever the case, together, the runes and the wordplay on Illyn/lyn lead to the Corbrays and Royces (who also owned Lady Forlorn for a short while) and of course to Sansa. Sansa notes Lady Forlorn looks like Ice, the steel a dark smoke-grey. There was also a correction to the World Book regarding the sword’s Valyrian origins – apparently, Valyrian steel should not have been part of the description. This means it’s likely not a Valyrian Steel sword. In fact, it failed against Blackfyre. However, Blackfyre and Dark Sister can be regarded as a pair and I think Ice and Lady Forlorn are also a pair – Ice the male and Lady Forlorn its female partner. Lyn Corbray says she has a thirst for a drop of red and I really like this because it’s so full of meaning. A ‘drop of red’ could be blood, wine or simply a drop of colour. Aside from the killing aspect, her thirst could be a drop of blood to turn her into a Valyrian steel sword, a drop of colour pointing to the reforging of ice. When Ice is melted down, the smith tries to colour the sword with red colouring but the steel doesn’t take to it uniformly. Nevertheless, it ripples red and black. Perhaps Ice does not need the colouring because it’s already been infused. Anyway, Ice is melted down into Oathkeeper and Widow’s Wail and the plot kind of thickens here because we have another pair parallel, methinks. The Royce’s ancestral sword ‘Lamentation’, lost at the Storming of the Dragonpit could correspond to Widow’s Wail while Oathkeeper, now in Brienne’s possession could be considered a female sword and pair with Lady Forlorn. Brienne herself is another forlorn lady for a number of reasons. The men who spurn her, her love for Renly whom she lost, her seeing him in Gendry etc (reminds me also of the Sailor’s wife hoping for her lost husband). Of course Brienne has sworn to find Sansa (literally her sworn sword - har!) which brings us back in a circle to Lady Forlorn. Last not but least, when you leave the ‘a’s out of Lyanna, you get Lyn. And Lyanna was one forlorn lady. The whole thing tells a story which needs to be unravelled. I began looking into female swords because I have the feeling Jon is meant to wield a female sword rather than the more conventional theories regarding Dawn etc. Some speculation here: if Blackfyre turns up with fAegon and Jon ends up in battle against him, he must have a sword capable of withstanding Blackfyre. Lady Forlorn once failed against Blackfyre, but with a 'drop of blood' she might be the answer to that same sword. Lyanna needs avenging in my opinion, (I'm not in the R+L=J camp) and what better sword than Lady Forlorn with a drop of blood for that purpose? Not much on the runes but more wordplay – so far runes/ruins remain a bit of an enigma to me. ETA - forgot to add that Lady Forlorn has a red heart pommel! Just hoping she isn't thirsting for Sansa! ETA - Actually, being female, she would be thirsting for a man's blood. Harry the Heir seems like the perfect candidate, red Hair and all. :-) Edited May 17, 2016 by Evolett Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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