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What is the issue with males and females instead of men and women?

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3 hours ago, ants said:

What is the issue with males and females instead of men and women?

I find it dehumanising tbh. Male and female are also adjectives so Male What? Female What? And we have two decent nouns for male and female humans: men and women.

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On 7/4/2016 at 4:21 AM, Chaldanya said:

Yeah, I kind of switched off a little bit for the romance in Hidden Legacy.  It reminded me a bit of the Rachel/Trent romance which took 12 or 13 books in The Hollows series.  But everyone knows my feelings on that so I'm just gonna leave that alone.

I saw someone mention Nalini Singh on here and I had the books knocking around so I've given both of the series a whirl.  And whooo-boy are the rapey.  Let's tackle The Guild Hunter series first.  Super God like Archangel meets ordinary(ish) woman and the power imbalance is huge, HUGE. But someone how they fall in love and at the end of the book 

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he turns her into an angel - the first time this has happened EVAH!  So now she's doubly super special

The plots are provided so that Ms Singh can write soporific sex scenes that left me about as aroused as being hit round the face by a wet haddock.  Suffice it to say, I can't even hate read it and gave up half way through book 3.

I then tried the Psy-Changeling series.  This was marginally better. The world makes more sense and actually is quite intriguing but oh please god can we STOP calling men and women males and females it grates on my something fierce.  And the sex scenes are once again just poor. All soft feminine this and hard male that. bleurgh! The first one was ok.  The second one was very very rapey.  The dude in the second one just blows by the boundaries set up by the woman and that's supposed to be sexy and something to love???. So I chucked that one out 40 pages in. I'm on the 3rd which is marginally better and not as rapey but I suppose we will see.

It appears to me that Ms Singh is still writing romance straight out of the 80s.

Fuck it, I'm going back to my non-fiction.

 

Yeah... I enjoyed HL, but I hear you - it didn't quite bring back Trent/Rachel flashbacks, but I definitely see how it could.

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I'd like to recommend the Queen Betsy books by Mary Janice Davidson for pure enjoyable fluff. I've read the books three times and that pretty much is unprecedented for me. They're basically horror-comedy with very very light on horror and a very enjoyable relationship between Betsy and her main romantic partner. The latter books stumble a bit by trying to add actual plot but the first ones are pure slice-of-undead life pop culture humor. Betsy is basically Buffy if she lived to be 30 as a hardworking but ultimately shallow nice girl before discovering her CHOSEN DESTINY AS THE QUEEN OF THE VAMPIRES.

I just picked up the latest Mercy Thompson book and I have to say I blame this thread for "ruining" the books for me as I'm aware of the flaws of the series a good deal more. Here, Mercy relies on Adam stepping in to tell off his pack for treating her like dirt the entire time versus the women actually coming to respect her for all she's done for them. Also, weirdly, I miss the vampires from the book. The Fae have never been particularly interesting antagonists and this is just another big monster they have to deal with.

The Nightmare Stacks by Charles Stross is out from yesterday and it's another non-Bob Howard story which annoys me because I don't really like Stross' other voices. Elves have invaded the United Kingdom and it's up to a Vicar and his vampire partner to stop them! It's just well, this is played for horror rather than humor and it's a bizarre juxtaposition.

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2 hours ago, Mandy said:

Yeah... I enjoyed HL, but I hear you - it didn't quite bring back Trent/Rachel flashbacks, but I definitely see how it could.

My wife adores Nalini Singh but I could never get into them.

Mostly because I'm a cold bloodedly logical socio...err, thinker and the books are all about YAY, EMOTION TRUMPS REASON!

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49 minutes ago, C.T. Phipps said:

I'd like to recommend the Queen Betsy books by Mary Janice Davidson for pure enjoyable fluff. I've read the books three times and that pretty much is unprecedented for me. They're basically horror-comedy with very very light on horror and a very enjoyable relationship between Betsy and her main romantic partner. The latter books stumble a bit by trying to add actual plot but the first ones are pure slice-of-undead life pop culture humor. Betsy is basically Buffy if she lived to be 30 as a hardworking but ultimately shallow nice girl before discovering her CHOSEN DESTINY AS THE QUEEN OF THE VAMPIRES.

I just picked up the latest Mercy Thompson book and I have to say I blame this thread for "ruining" the books for me as I'm aware of the flaws of the series a good deal more. Here, Mercy relies on Adam stepping in to tell off his pack for treating her like dirt the entire time versus the women actually coming to respect her for all she's done for them. Also, weirdly, I miss the vampires from the book. The Fae have never been particularly interesting antagonists and this is just another big monster they have to deal with.

The Nightmare Stacks by Charles Stross is out from yesterday and it's another non-Bob Howard story which annoys me because I don't really like Stross' other voices. Elves have invaded the United Kingdom and it's up to a Vicar and his vampire partner to stop them! It's just well, this is played for horror rather than humor and it's a bizarre juxtaposition.

I may pick up that Queen Betsy recommendation in the future.  Glad to get recommendations, as always!  

I have to say, I enjoyed the first couple of the Mercy Thompson series more than the last couple. The claiming of the city felt like an after thought, something thrown in, and by comparison, the use of the same plot device by the Kate Daniels series really made so much more sense.  It just could have been done better is all.  I like the Alpha Omega books by Patricia Briggs better at this point.

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11 hours ago, C.T. Phipps said:

I'd like to recommend the Queen Betsy books by Mary Janice Davidson for pure enjoyable fluff. I've read the books three times and that pretty much is unprecedented for me. They're basically horror-comedy with very very light on horror and a very enjoyable relationship between Betsy and her main romantic partner. The latter books stumble a bit by trying to add actual plot but the first ones are pure slice-of-undead life pop culture humor. Betsy is basically Buffy if she lived to be 30 as a hardworking but ultimately shallow nice girl before discovering her CHOSEN DESTINY AS THE QUEEN OF THE VAMPIRES.

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I read some of those books a long time ago when they came out. Although I really enjoyed the first few, I thought the series then really went downhill. The first ones the main character was a bit ditzy, and the circumstances she found herself in was crazy/silly, but she was still smart and made reasonable choices.

Either the third or fourth book the author just started to make the main character into more and more of a dumb blonde, doing really stupid things or not considering obvious options for no particular reason. It really started to grate on me.  

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11 hours ago, ants said:

I read some of those books a long time ago when they came out. Although I really enjoyed the first few, I thought the series then really went downhill. The first ones the main character was a bit ditzy, and the circumstances she found herself in was crazy/silly, but she was still smart and made reasonable choices.

Either the third or fourth book the author just started to make the main character into more and more of a dumb blonde, doing really stupid things or not considering obvious options for no particular reason. It really started to grate on me.  

I don't think Betsy ever becomes a dumb blonde but she does cease to give a crap about whatever people are telling her and just do whatever the hell she wants, like get in a fist-fight with Satan. I do tend to agree with you the first few books are the best, though.

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Just finished Fire-Touched and think it's setting up the end of the Mercy Thompson series. I think it's an okay time to end it even if I think the focus on the fae was always the weakest part of the series. The claiming of territory is the first step toward a peace-treaty with the fae and I'm sorry she's not apparently setting up a confrontation with Cantrip as I really hate the Department of Homeland Insecurity.

It was fun but not exceptional the way I remember previous volumes.

I also regret Stefan's absence.

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I just read "Heroine Complex" by Sarah Kuhn.  It's a pretty decent, light read about a demon fighting superheroine...'s personal assistant.  There's a bit of romance (including a sex scene that was steamier than I'd expected) with a guy who's not really an alpha hole, but the bulk of the character relationships revolve around the lifelong friendship between two women, who have their own personality flaws and foibles.  Also, points for making the BFFs Asian American.

The climax is pretty rushed, however, and by the ending is a little too pat.  It's almost as if the author realized she was running out of words for the book and scrambled to wrap everything up.  And it is very light.  A gossip columnist/Z-grade celebrity leach plays a major role as a foil/antagonist, for example.

3.5 to 3.75 out of 5

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I'm starting the Cat and Bones/Nighthuntress series now. I've heard both good and bad things about the series. Would love this group's opinion.

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The Cat and Bones a.k.a Nighthuntress series is one I'm mostly finished with and I have to say I enjoy Jeanine Frost's work. It's basically an R-rated Buffy with a naive dhampir vampire hunter named Catherine Crawfield and a 200 year old British vampire named Crispin "Bones" Russell. They hunt the worst of their kind and eventually join with the Department of Homeland Security's Supernatural Division (ha!).

One thing I really like is she includes Dracula as part of her cast but does a mostly historical accurate Vlad III as a mid-level vampire.

They're just funny and entertaining adult books.

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I've just started some of David Niall Wilson's work.

Damn, he's got a huge collection of awesome stuff.

I'm entirely biased here, though.

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Some news about Stephen Blackmoore's 'Eric Carter' series.There are three more books scheduled after the 3rd, which comes out in Feb. 2017.

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Speaking of more Eric Carter. There's going to be at least three more books in the series (and hopefully more). FIRE SEASON is set for 2018, GHOST MONEY for 2019 and BOTTLE DEMON in 2020.

 

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14 hours ago, AncalagonTheBlack said:

Some news about Stephen Blackmoore's 'Eric Carter' series.There are three more books scheduled after the 3rd, which comes out in Feb. 2017.

 

Excellent news.  I just re-read the first two again recently and still loved them.

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29 minutes ago, AncalagonTheBlack said:

The Hanging Tree (Peter Grant #6) by Ben Aaronovitch has a new release date: November 3, 2016.

http://www.gollancz.co.uk/2016/09/the-hanging-tree-announcement/

That's a nice surprise since it was starting to look like it was being pushed into 2017 (I think originally it was meant to be published this month).

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On ‎9‎/‎09‎/‎2016 at 2:22 PM, Darth Richard II said:

So I bought The Invisible Library on a whim, and I think it might be urban fantasy? Only 30 pages on. 

Yep, it would count. Not a bad series either.

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