Stan the Man Baratheon Posted April 4, 2016 Share Posted April 4, 2016 I am really happy with Trump's groundgame in Wisconsin, he has been doing atleast 3 rallies per day for the last 4-5 days. Hopefully it pays for him and he can then focus on demolishing Clinton. A very hardworking man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shryke Posted April 4, 2016 Share Posted April 4, 2016 8 hours ago, Altherion said: There are other things that go wrong when banks get too big, but let's disregard those for the moment and focus on one crucial point: we don't know the risk. There's an entire industry of extremely well paid people whose job it is to evaluate this risk, but as history has shown time and time again, the systems in question are too complex for these evaluations to be comprehensive and, obvious as they are in retrospect, the risks are not truly known. Yes. The Frank-Dodd regulations were written by people who have taken substantial amounts of money from the large banks both before and after their passage. Many of the people who voted on them and worked to implement them have gone on to work for the banks. It's a pretty safe bet that the big banks found the regulations more helpful than harmful which makes the odds of them being useful pretty slim (albeit not completely negligible). Actually they dislike Dodd-Frank, so it's not at all safe to assume that. Evidence points to Dodd-Frank being successful at decreasing leverage among other things. It's not enough but it's a solid step forward. And your first paragraph doesn't even address the issue because we do have ways to evaluate risk, as I just pointed out and skips over the actual point, which is that size is not necessarily related to risk. Here's just a quick link on Dodd-Frank for some more info: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2016/02/03/what-republicans-and-bernie-sanders-both-get-wrong-about-wall-street/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mormont Posted April 4, 2016 Share Posted April 4, 2016 6 hours ago, Mlle. Zabzie said: Gosh. This is truly something. It's a great peek into his mind. The story about the maid, where he insists she must be an illegal immigrant purely on the basis that she doesn't like him... the bit about Ivana being 'described as one of the great beauties'... the Vince Lombardi story... the claim that he didn't have any detractors before he decided to run for President... the suggestion that he'd have won in '12 if he'd run... and the constant name-dropping, boasting and complaints about unfair press. Oh, and 'negotiation' as the magic wand that will conjure a solution to every problem, no matter how unlikely. I defy anyone to read that and still think Trump isn't sincere. He believes he will win and will be a great President. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manhole Eunuchsbane Posted April 4, 2016 Share Posted April 4, 2016 For me, that interview is practically unreadable. Trump just rambles on and on about how much money he has in this muddled stream of consciousness that leads nowhere. I'm wondering why a journalist of Bob Woodward's standing would bother publishing this. It's terrible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shryke Posted April 5, 2016 Share Posted April 5, 2016 1 hour ago, mormont said: It's a great peek into his mind. The story about the maid, where he insists she must be an illegal immigrant purely on the basis that she doesn't like him... the bit about Ivana being 'described as one of the great beauties'... the Vince Lombardi story... the claim that he didn't have any detractors before he decided to run for President... the suggestion that he'd have won in '12 if he'd run... and the constant name-dropping, boasting and complaints about unfair press. Oh, and 'negotiation' as the magic wand that will conjure a solution to every problem, no matter how unlikely. I defy anyone to read that and still think Trump isn't sincere. He believes he will win and will be a great President. Yup. He's a delusional narcissist. And such a goddamn idiot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanteGabriel Posted April 5, 2016 Share Posted April 5, 2016 5 minutes ago, Shryke said: Yup. He's a delusional narcissist. And such a goddamn idiot. It's the American Dream in action. A gibbering dumbfuck gets born to a wealthy New York slumlord and rides the Dunning-Kruger effect, a relentless need to self-promote, and a total lack of shame to fame and fortune, and becomes the Chief of the Tribe of Gibbering Dumbfucks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
All-for-Joffrey Posted April 5, 2016 Share Posted April 5, 2016 4 hours ago, Stan the Man Baratheon said: I am really happy with Trump's groundgame in Wisconsin, he has been doing atleast 3 rallies per day for the last 4-5 days. Hopefully it pays for him and he can then focus on demolishing Clinton. A very hardworking man. I don't think ground game means what you think it means... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Anti-Targ Posted April 5, 2016 Share Posted April 5, 2016 3 hours ago, Manhole Eunuchsbane said: For me, that interview is practically unreadable. Trump just rambles on and on about how much money he has in this muddled stream of consciousness that leads nowhere. I'm wondering why a journalist of Bob Woodward's standing would bother publishing this. It's terrible. I think Woodward exposed his limitations in some of his reportage during the Bush Jr years. Some of his lack of insightfulness or skepticism made him a virtual apologist for some of the Bush BS during that time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manhole Eunuchsbane Posted April 5, 2016 Share Posted April 5, 2016 8 minutes ago, The Anti-Targ said: I think Woodward exposed his limitations in some of his reportage during the Bush Jr years. Some of his lack of insightfulness or skepticism made him a virtual apologist for some of the Bush BS during that time. I have to watch that reaction video from him that someone posted earlier. I hope he rips him. I'm so tired of the mainstream media stroking this guys cock. It's laughable at this point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stan the Man Baratheon Posted April 5, 2016 Share Posted April 5, 2016 2 hours ago, All-for-Joffrey said: I don't think ground game means what you think it means... You are spot on sport! Kindly explain to me what ground game means. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalnak the Magnificent Posted April 5, 2016 Share Posted April 5, 2016 This Sanders interview is not good. It's a lot like the trump interview. It really makes me mad. How can he not know how he's going to break the banks up or what will happen if he does? How can he not know about what happens to the holders of accounts at said banks? Or the current laws around them? I get that not everyone who is passionate about something knows a lot about it, but breaking up the banks is one of his babies. Grrr. http://m.nydailynews.com/opinion/transcript-bernie-sanders-meets-news-editorial-board-article-1.2588306 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Marquis de Leech Posted April 5, 2016 Share Posted April 5, 2016 54 minutes ago, Stan the Man Baratheon said: You are spot on sport! Kindly explain to me what ground game means. Ground game means canvassing - having your campaign workers/volunteers contact potential voters to identify their leanings. Once you've identified your voters, you physically get them to the polls on the day itself, or at least ensure they have already voted. It also means the drudgery of door-knocking, ringing people, putting up posters, delivering leaflets. Holding rallies isn't a ground game. It's a good deal less glamorous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DireWolfSpirit Posted April 5, 2016 Share Posted April 5, 2016 2 hours ago, The Anti-Targ said: I think Woodward exposed his limitations in some of his reportage during the Bush Jr years. Some of his lack of insightfulness or skepticism made him a virtual apologist for some of the Bush BS during that time. Good catch, he was a disgrace during that period. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lokisnow Posted April 5, 2016 Author Share Posted April 5, 2016 Last nights episode semi finale of "the circus" (it's on showtime) has a pair of truly amazing moments, the first an extemporaneous moment with Bill Clinton that illustrates why bill, even in his current emaciated and hoarse state projects approachable charisma and friendliness unlike probably any other politician I've seen--sure it is response to a totally softball question, "what do you think of Wisconsin" but moments later there's the second moment a Sarah palin response to the same question that is out of this world bonkers even by palin standards. also, before Sarah palin explains why Wisconsin likes com-pe-ti-tion you get to hear palin explain the problem with illegal immigrants is they get seduced over the fence with gift baskets "oh look soccer balls"! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrackerNeil Posted April 5, 2016 Share Posted April 5, 2016 5 hours ago, Kalbear said: This Sanders interview is not good. It's a lot like the trump interview. It really makes me mad. How can he not know how he's going to break the banks up or what will happen if he does? How can he not know about what happens to the holders of accounts at said banks? Or the current laws around them? I get that not everyone who is passionate about something knows a lot about it, but breaking up the banks is one of his babies. Grrr. http://m.nydailynews.com/opinion/transcript-bernie-sanders-meets-news-editorial-board-article-1.2588306 Yeah, he sounds a lot like Trump here, making grand claims with little specificity, and even refusing the pledge to support the Democratic nominee. I guess that's his thing--the political revolution and all that--but personally I want a president who has some idea as to how things are going to get done. This is also a great example of a certain view of politics. You can make some pretty wild claims and still be considered "genuine", which tells me it's not what the candidate says but who he's perceived to be. Sanders is considered honest so people accept this stuff, whereas Clinton is considered untrustworthy, so her more plausible claims are dismissed as pandering. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fez Posted April 5, 2016 Share Posted April 5, 2016 Wisconsin's looking like another state where I wouldn't be surprised by just about any result. Its looking like single-digit wins for Cruz and Sanders, but Trump and Clinton winning seems more than plausible as well. I'll predict Cruz +4 and Sanders +6 as the results. And then, other than a quick Wyoming caucus, its going to be a long two weeks until the New York primary. I look forward to New York City-based media types being extremely patronizing to upstate New Yorkers in various news pieces, similar to Iowa and New Hampshire coverage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mormont Posted April 5, 2016 Share Posted April 5, 2016 55 minutes ago, TrackerNeil said: Yeah, he sounds a lot like Trump here, making grand claims with little specificity, and even refusing the pledge to support the Democratic nominee. Sorry, but I see no sensible point of comparison between that interview and the Trump interview at all. Sanders comes off in there as being somewhat under-briefed and unprepared on certain questions, he sometimes seems hazy on details (though not all or even most of the time) and to prefer generalities, he even appears a bit testy sometimes, though that's hard to determine from a transcript. But that interview is nothing like the Trump interview. Sanders comes out of it looking like what he is - a candidate who's likely too far left to ever win the general election, who's been thrust into a situation he wasn't really properly prepared for, but who is a serious politician and a reasonable human being. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OnionAhaiReborn Posted April 5, 2016 Share Posted April 5, 2016 2 hours ago, TrackerNeil said: Yeah, he sounds a lot like Trump here, making grand claims with little specificity, and even refusing the pledge to support the Democratic nominee. What are you talking about? He's doesn't refuse to pledge his support for the Democratic nominee. He's not even asked to. The closest they get is this exchange: Quote Daily News: With a couple of those points in mind, there's a lot of speculation that if she were to win the nomination, would your followers and your supporters vote for her? Or would their absence in the voting in November help whomever the Republican nominee is? Whether it's Trump or Cruz. With that in mind, and this might be putting the cart ahead of the horse a little bit, would you ever consider running as her vice-president? Sanders: Well, I think you have put the cart ahead of the horse on that one. We're in this race to win. We think we’ve got a shot to win. And that's what we're focusing on right now. There are millions of people. I am very grateful millions of people are supporting me. How they will vote, I don't know. Daily News: But are you concerned? Not to interrupt you, about the specter of there not being enough support rallying around her from your camp? Sanders: What I am concerned about, what I think would be a disaster for the United States of America, is to see a Donald Trump or some right wing Republican become President of the United States. I will do everything I can to prevent that from happening. A little earlier, he calls Clinton's views "far, far preferable to any of the Republican candidates." It's almost unimaginable to me that someone can read this as refusing to support the Democratic nominee, unless they're bound and determined to force his words into a preconceived narrative. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tywin et al. Posted April 5, 2016 Share Posted April 5, 2016 On 4/1/2016 at 4:42 PM, Shryke said: If Sanders supporters aren't happy with her, Sanders needs to help deal with that when he concedes if he loses the primary. Cause he's been the one reinforcing their views that they shouldn't like her. She's just responding to him doing so. This is only half true. It is incumbent on Sanders to do all he can to get his supporters to back Clinton when he loses the primary, but it's ultimately on Clinton to win those supporters over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martell Spy Posted April 5, 2016 Share Posted April 5, 2016 http://www.salon.com/2016/04/05/the_secret_history_of_donald_trumps_goon_squad_how_a_wannabe_demagogue_hijacked_the_gop_primary/ The secret history of Donald Trump’s goon squad: How a wannabe demagogue hijacked the GOP primary What do the inner workings of Trump's campaign look like? Thanks to a report from New York magazine, now we know Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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