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Similarities between Jaime Lannister and Daemon Targaryen


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1. Early life

2. Appearance and character

3. Early life

4. Marriages and Romantic relationships

- Daemon had three Wifes, nr 1 was Rhea Royce who despised each other, nr 2 Laenor Velaryon who he married after killing three of her suitors with her he had 2 daughters and a stillborn son, nr 3 was Rhaneyra Targaryen his niece with whom he had to sons both of whom became king's and a stillborn daughter.

- Jaime was first betrothed nr 1 Lysa Tully but then he joined the kingsguard and broke the betrothal, nr 2 He had a affair with Cersei with whom he had two sons and one daughter. Both sons became king.

Question:

1. What do you think they have in common?

2. Is there anybody but me who belives that Jaime will be the new Daemon?

Sources:

http://awoiaf.westeros.org/index.php/Jaime_Lannister

http://awoiaf.westeros.org/index.php/Daemon_Targaryen

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Even if I like Jaime he isn't nowhere near the man that Daemon was. Also btw Jaime was never betrothed to Lysa, their fathers thought about it but it never happened. 

On 10/4/2016 at 0:44 AM, norwaywolf123 said:

1. What do you think they have in common?

Nothing really. Maybe except the fact that they both tried to kill a child with Daemon succeeding at it. Jaime was a good man who turned grey. Something that couldn't be told about Daemon.

On 10/4/2016 at 0:44 AM, norwaywolf123 said:

2. Is there anybody but me who belives that Jaime will be the new Daemon?

My opinion is no.

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I think if Jaime will have a comparison from the Dance it will be with Cristen Cole.  Both Lord Commanders of the Kingsguard.  Cole loved/ wanted Rhaenyra and she spurned him and so he became a giant deuch and crowned Aegon.  Jaime loved Cersei, she went crazy and Jaime may well try and support Rhaegars son, whether that is Aegon or Jon.

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When it comes to the Dance of Dragon 2.0 these characters i think paralell with the first Dance

Past - Present

Rhaneyra Targaryen - Daenerys "Stormborn" Targaryen

Daemon Targaryen "the Rogue Prince" - Jaime Lannister "the Kingslayer"

Corlys Velaryon - "the Imp" Tyrion Lannister

Aegon "the Elder" Targaryen - fAegon Targaryen or Blackfyre

Otto Hightower - Mace Tyrell

Criston Cole "the Kingmaker" - Barristan "the Bold" Selmy

Borros Baratheon - Jon Connington

Nettles - Brienne Tarth

Larys Strong - Petyr Baelish

Cregan Stark - Jon Snow

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3 minutes ago, norwaywolf123 said:

Corlys Velaryon - "the Imp" Tyrion Lannister

What Tyrion has to do with the sea?

4 minutes ago, norwaywolf123 said:

Criston Cole "the Kingmaker" - Barristan "the Bold" Selmy

So Barri is going to be Dany's enemy?

4 minutes ago, norwaywolf123 said:

Borros Baratheon - Jon Connington

How JonCon who is already FAegon's supporter is even a Baratheon and FAegon has to won his support?

5 minutes ago, norwaywolf123 said:

Cregan Stark - Jon Snow

So Jon for some strange reason will forget LN2.0 in order to give a second damn about who of the two will be take the Throne?

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4 minutes ago, Jon's Queen Consort said:

What Tyrion has to do with the sea?

I only think that he will be Daenerys, hand of the queen

4 minutes ago, Jon's Queen Consort said:

So Barri is going to be Dany's enemy?

Barristan is going to declare for fAegon. It must be him becouse he is the only KG that Dany has any kind of relationship with.

4 minutes ago, Jon's Queen Consort said:

How JonCon who is already FAegon's supporter is even a Baratheon and FAegon has to won his support?

I think fAegon will give JonCon the lord paramountcy of the Stormlands and JonCon will lead the Stormlander and be one of fAegons pricipal supporters like Borros Baratheon was to Aegon the second.

4 minutes ago, Jon's Queen Consort said:

So Jon for some strange reason will forget LN2.0 in order to give a second damn about who of the two will be take the Throne?

He will march south too rally the south to prepare for LN 2.0

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3 hours ago, norwaywolf123 said:

I only think that he will be Daenerys, hand of the queen

So he will not have any actual connection with Corlys. Make sence.

3 hours ago, norwaywolf123 said:

Barristan is going to declare for fAegon. It must be him becouse he is the only KG that Dany has any kind of relationship with.

Barri will for some reason will leave Dany and he will become one of her worst enemies? Seems legit.

3 hours ago, norwaywolf123 said:

I think fAegon will give JonCon the lord paramountcy of the Stormlands and JonCon will lead the Stormlander and be one of fAegons pricipal supporters like Borros Baratheon was to Aegon the second.

Borros had something to won because his loyalty was in question on the other hand JonCon's loyalty was never questionable and JonCon is a dead man walking which by definition means that he has nothing to gain.

3 hours ago, norwaywolf123 said:

He will march south too rally the south to prepare for LN 2.0

Why? BTW, Cregan went to the South only after the end. So Jon for strange reason will sent his army to fight for a Targ when an army of ice zombies are ready to attack the North.

 

It seems to me that you just pull some *connections* out of thin air just to make your *theory* to work ignoring all those facts that prove you wrong. I think that my opinion is self explanatory since you haven't provided some text quotes to support your fan fiction.

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Barristan-Criston Paralells and similarities

1. Both are from the Stormlands, and from the Dornish Marches region

2. Both Joined the KG when they were 23

3. Their relationships with Rhaneyra and Daenerys differ thou. But they both had the trust of princess/queen. 

4. Both were famous knight of the Kings guard and were condsidered the best in the realm

Daenerys-Rhaneyra parralells and similarities

1. Both were the chosen heir of a king named Viserys (Viserys the first and Rhaneyra, Viserys the third and Daenerys)

2. Both were married to men they did not want to marry (Rhaneyra and Laenor, Dany and Hizdahr), and both had lovers (Rhaneyra and Harwin, Dany and Daario)

3. Both fought a war for the crown against a male heir or supposed male heir in the case of fAegon (Aegon the second for Rhaneyra, fAegon for Daenerys)

4. Rhaneyra was very popular when she was young but grew more unpopular later being dubbed Maegor wit teats, Some think including me that dany will go in a darker direction foreward

Sources

- Kingmaker

http://awoiaf.westeros.org/index.php/Criston_Cole

http://awoiaf.westeros.org/index.php/Barristan_Selmy

- Rogue Prince

http://awoiaf.westeros.org/index.php/Daemon_Targaryen

- Princess and Queen

http://awoiaf.westeros.org/index.php/Rhaenyra_Targaryen

http://awoiaf.westeros.org/index.php/Daenerys_Targaryen

Question

1. Who do you think Dany will marry?

2. Will dany marry a Daemon Targaryen ish character?

3. How will Dany die? Eaten by a dragon, or death in childbirth?

4. Will Daenerys have children? How many? Boy or Girl?

5. Will she be married to the father of her potential child?

Some i think Dany may marry

- Jaime Lannister

- Daven Lannister

- Aurane Waters

- Garlan Tyrell (Maybe his wife has a accident?)

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What those questions have to do with the op? Why you always post the awoiaf's links?

14 hours ago, norwaywolf123 said:

1. Who do you think Dany will marry?

One of the Greyjoys or Tyrion.

14 hours ago, norwaywolf123 said:

2. Will dany marry a Daemon Targaryen ish character?

No.

14 hours ago, norwaywolf123 said:

3. How will Dany die? Eaten by a dragon, or death in childbirth?

Either in childbirth or she will be killed because she will have turned mad.

14 hours ago, norwaywolf123 said:

4. Will Daenerys have children? How many? Boy or Girl?

 

14 hours ago, norwaywolf123 said:

5. Will she be married to the father of her potential child?

I don't think that she will have any living children. However I liked FE's theory about her having a daughter with Tyrion. 

14 hours ago, norwaywolf123 said:

Some i think Dany may marry

Do you have any actual text proof for yout so called theory?

They both are really hot. I would totally.

Agree. 

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53 minutes ago, Jon's Queen Consort said:

What those questions have to do with the op? Why you always post the awoiaf's links?

So people can read themselves

53 minutes ago, Jon's Queen Consort said:

Do you have any actual text proof for yout so called theory?

I just think their personalitys match

 

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4 hours ago, norwaywolf123 said:

So people can read themselves

Because the people here haven't  already read the books or couldn't do it on their own?

4 hours ago, norwaywolf123 said:

I just think their personalitys match

So you basically say that since it's not based on a text is a fan fiction. And that is the problem with your *theory*, you don't base it on the text but on what you would like to see, which is why is a fan fiction and not a theory.

 

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Some i think Dany may marry

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BTW haven't you already had a thread about this^?

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