Lord Xhyb Posted April 29, 2016 Share Posted April 29, 2016 So hey guys, I'm new here and I joined because of one doubt that just couldn't let me sleep: In the books (although I have only read through the first 3) and in GoT, it is specifically stated that Ghost is mute. So then, how come in The Red Woman we can HEAR him howling before Davos finds Jon dead, and then growling when Ser Allister comes knocking to the door? Am I missing something in the next books? Or is that a really big detail that they put there on purpose? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ran Posted April 29, 2016 Share Posted April 29, 2016 Ghost has been making sounds on the show since season 1. It's just what it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoWesteros Posted April 29, 2016 Share Posted April 29, 2016 Yeah, Ghost being mute is A book thing. I thought that in the episode myself and came to conclusion that even if he was mute on the show, Jon's death would have been a good enough reason for him to howl the place down for the first time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnston Posted April 29, 2016 Share Posted April 29, 2016 Could you imagine the impact if Ghost had been more prominent and they had slipped in a few comments about his muteness only to have him Howl as JS breathed his last. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neds Secret Posted April 29, 2016 Share Posted April 29, 2016 When he took the role it was on the condition that he gets some lines thrown in each season, so every season so far per contractual arrangements we get some sort of noise/dialogue from him. The show runners don't want to throw away good money without getting some sort of return from it I guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weirwood woman Posted April 29, 2016 Share Posted April 29, 2016 That sounds about right!, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Hustle Posted April 29, 2016 Share Posted April 29, 2016 i never noticed that in the books. And honestly ghost was pretty quite in the past seasons beside his usual wolf stuff like growling every now and then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Friendzone Posted April 29, 2016 Share Posted April 29, 2016 It would have been very weird for Ghost to be mute in the show. It works in the books but glad he's actually responding. Nice touch with them as Ghost started to howl after his death and it had that emotional punch to Jon's fate. If he howled during the stabbing, it would alert some of the loyalists. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxxine Posted April 29, 2016 Share Posted April 29, 2016 I think it's just a change the show made. However, it's not clear whether Ghost can't make noise or won't make noise in the book. There's a difference.I thought it was a great touch to have Ghost start howling when Jon died in the show and think it would be a nice touch in the book. Could signify Spoiler jon warging into Ghost Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Xhyb Posted April 29, 2016 Author Share Posted April 29, 2016 5 hours ago, Maxxine said: I think it's just a change the show made. However, it's not clear whether Ghost can't make noise or won't make noise in the book. There's a difference.I thought it was a great touch to have Ghost start howling when Jon died in the show and think it would be a nice touch in the book. Could signify Hide contents jon warging into Ghost I actually think that's what happened, or at least that is what my theory is, I really don't think he died that easy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
239JMFL34109 Posted April 29, 2016 Share Posted April 29, 2016 43 minutes ago, Lord Xhyb said: I actually think that's what happened, or at least that is what my theory is, I really don't think he died that easy I think that is what might mel get out of here funk. seeing jon in ghost. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elaena Targaryen Posted April 30, 2016 Share Posted April 30, 2016 11 hours ago, Maxxine said: I think it's just a change the show made. However, it's not clear whether Ghost can't make noise or won't make noise in the book. There's a difference.I thought it was a great touch to have Ghost start howling when Jon died in the show and think it would be a nice touch in the book. Could signify Reveal hidden contents jon warging into Ghost Ghost has been making sounds in the show since the beginning so I don't think so. But I couldn't help to wonder the same as you when Ghost howled because of Jon's wolf dream from Clash. There were five of them when there should have been six, and they were scattered, each apart from the others. He felt a deep ache of emptiness, a sense of incompleteness. The forest was vast and cold, and they were so small, so lost. His brothers were out there somewhere, and his sister, but he had lost their scent. He sat on his haunches and lifted his head to the darkening sky, and his cry echoed through the forest, a long lonely mournful sound. As it died away, he pricked up his ears, listening for an answer, but the only sound was the sigh of blowing snow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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