robasp2 Posted May 6, 2016 Share Posted May 6, 2016 House Umber and Krastarks command the largest armies and back an already large army of Boltons.. A few untrained wildlings (remember them losing to stannis) and possibly house Mormont stand with Jon... Who else will back Jon? How will they even win? (I saw bolton banners burning. I saw him walk tthrough winterfell) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sj4iy Posted May 6, 2016 Share Posted May 6, 2016 We'll see if the Manderlys actually will support the Boltons, or if they will back Jon because they want the Starks back in power. They are the wild card in this scenario, I believe, and the show mentioned them just last week, so I think they will be a factor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyrek Lannister Posted May 6, 2016 Share Posted May 6, 2016 - Mormonts - possibly Hornwoods and Manderlys - Glovers? (Deepwood Motte was retaken from the ironborn) - Wildlings - Stark remnants Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyrek Lannister Posted May 6, 2016 Share Posted May 6, 2016 http://winteriscoming.net/wp-content/uploads/2015/09/Northern-Host.jpg I've found this old photo from the set, white-blue-yellow banners are of House Flint maybe? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sj4iy Posted May 6, 2016 Share Posted May 6, 2016 2 hours ago, Gendry Rowers said: http://winteriscoming.net/wp-content/uploads/2015/09/Northern-Host.jpg I've found this old photo from the set, white-blue-yellow banners are of House Flint maybe? Definitely looks like we get the Hornwoods there. Can't tell what the blue and yellow banners are, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
watcher of the night Posted May 6, 2016 Share Posted May 6, 2016 Openly? I think he (Sansa) gets the support of the "smaller" houses: Mormont, Hornwood, Cerwyns, Glover and the wildlings. Ramsay will have his "dreamteam" (remember his "we don't need every house in the north" speech): Bolton, Karstark, Umbers, Manderly. The odds will be in his favour. It is almost 100% sure tough that Manderly will switch side. The Umber's motivation and loyalty is unclear, perhaps the Freys still have the GreatJon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robasp2 Posted May 6, 2016 Author Share Posted May 6, 2016 Hmm.. But aren't the Manderlys less force than Umbers and Krastarks together? If they betray the Boltons, they will be the only "comparable" army out of them all. I believe Jon is still outnumbered. The trailer shows Ramsey smirking.. I believe the biggest twist will be the entry of knights of the Vale. That is the only way I see the massive Boltons will ever be defeated... And I think, "Jon has changed by death" will be shown when he doesnt give a fuck when they blackmail him with Rickon... He might show no intrest in family and totally ignore his honor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2 Stags Short of a Dragon Posted May 6, 2016 Share Posted May 6, 2016 Where are the sellsword deserters from Stannis's host? Didn't Ser Davos hire those people with the Iron Bank's money? Somehow, the Iron Bank had to have some hand in the sellswords abandoning Stannis and, presumably, there's still a standing army somewhere in the North that is awaiting orders from Bravos. Or maybe the show Iron Bank isn't nearly as merciless as the book Iron Bank and the sellswords went on over to the Boltons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
watcher of the night Posted May 6, 2016 Share Posted May 6, 2016 37 minutes ago, robasp2 said: Hmm.. But aren't the Manderlys less force than Umbers and Krastarks together? If they betray the Boltons, they will be the only "comparable" army out of them all. I believe Jon is still outnumbered. The trailer shows Ramsey smirking.. I believe the biggest twist will be the entry of knights of the Vale. That is the only way I see the massive Boltons will ever be defeated... And I think, "Jon has changed by death" will be shown when he doesnt give a fuck when they blackmail him with Rickon... He might show no intrest in family and totally ignore his honor. Well, Ramsay is smirking because he has twenty good men nah he is smirking becuase I am sure he set up some trap. In the red band trailer Tormund looks a bit confused, they stop as if surrounded on all sides. I guess the Manderlys switching will even out the odds and yes, the knights of the Vale could deliver the killing blow. I disagree about Jon, that is why IMO despite winning the battle they will have to negotiate with Ramsay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Onion Knight Posted May 6, 2016 Share Posted May 6, 2016 I believe the Karstarks and Umbers are the only ones that will be backing the Boltons. The Manderlys will either back Jon straight up or backstab the Boltons. The Mormonts are 100% backing Jon and of course, so are the Wildlings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
watcher of the night Posted May 6, 2016 Share Posted May 6, 2016 Watch this trailer 1.41: First you see a host loyal to the Starks, you can see a Hornwood and Mormont banner, probably more. What is interesting that there are some short of barricades at the back and men figthing on it. Burning crosses behind the barricades. It seems to me that this host is sorrounded. Then you see a bolton shieldwall rounding the wildling front. Then you see Tormund clearly hesitant, as if the shiled wall stopped the wildlings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sj4iy Posted May 6, 2016 Share Posted May 6, 2016 1 hour ago, watcher of the night said: Watch this trailer 1.41: First you see a host loyal to the Starks, you can see a Hornwood and Mormont banner, probably more. What is interesting that there are some short of barricades at the back and men figthing on it. Burning crosses behind the barricades. It seems to me that this host is sorrounded. Then you see a bolton shieldwall rounding the wildling front. Then you see Tormund clearly hesitant, as if the shiled wall stopped the wildlings. Brienne seems to be at Riverrun, so will be be seeing some Tully action, as well? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ruhail Posted May 6, 2016 Share Posted May 6, 2016 Whomevers needed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoamingRonin Posted May 6, 2016 Share Posted May 6, 2016 18 hours ago, robasp2 said: Who else will back Jon? The North. He is half a Stark. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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