Misnthropia Posted May 17, 2016 Share Posted May 17, 2016 3 hours ago, The Golden Wolf said: Just thought of something, Carol says the Tyrells have the second largest army in Westeros...who the hell has the largest? Why did it take Mace and Olenna having to be told by carol of all fucking people to bring heir army into Kingslanding to get the Queen and the Heir of Highgarden (because we can't have full families around here) away from religious fanatics? That stood out to me as well. Unless she still holds onto some notion that the Lannister army is the largest or trying to portay that its the largest to not give the Tyrells all the cards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forlong the Fat Posted May 17, 2016 Share Posted May 17, 2016 3 hours ago, The Golden Wolf said: Just thought of something, Carol says the Tyrells have the second largest army in Westeros...who the hell has the largest? Why did it take Mace and Olenna having to be told by carol of all fucking people to bring heir army into Kingslanding to get the Queen and the Heir of Highgarden (because we can't have full families around here) away from religious fanatics? The main reason would be because the Tyrells bringing their army into King's Landing without permission would be an act of war. This does raise the question whether the Lannisters will live to regret the decision to let a large army they don't control inside the capital. Last time that happened it didn't work out very well (for the Targs anyway). But that would be par for the course with Cersei's decision-making. Right up there with re-arming the Faith Militant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WSmith84 Posted May 17, 2016 Share Posted May 17, 2016 12 minutes ago, Forlong the Fat said: I would probably keep it a secret, especially from people like Tormund and Mance. Well, at the point of asking, they would be either prisoners or Jon's allies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ser Desmond Wine's Bane Posted May 17, 2016 Share Posted May 17, 2016 49 minutes ago, The Golden Wolf said: But this is the show...you don't think they would actually have Faullaria and the Sand Worms attacking Kingslanding at the head of a 50K Dornish army would they? Fair point. They wouldn't even need 20 good men. One bad poosey would do the job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Golden Wolf Posted May 17, 2016 Share Posted May 17, 2016 1 minute ago, Ser Desmond Wine's Bane said: Fair point. They wouldn't even need 20 good men. One bad poosey would do the job. 20 good men vs the Bad Poosey, winner takes the Seven Kingdoms Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Locksley Posted May 17, 2016 Share Posted May 17, 2016 Why is Kevan Lannister such a bitch in the show? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Golden Wolf Posted May 17, 2016 Share Posted May 17, 2016 Every strong male had the steel taken out of their spines and given to the women as knives and swords Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rubicante Posted May 17, 2016 Share Posted May 17, 2016 1 hour ago, Locksley said: Why is Kevan Lannister such a bitch in the show? He's not part of the main cast, therefore it is forbidden to have any scenes with him as the primary focus. This would take away from the screen time for other cast members, where we would miss scenes with Peter Dinklage making cock jokes and small talk with other intriguing cast members. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie Lannister Posted May 17, 2016 Share Posted May 17, 2016 Does it bother anyone else at how much of a toady Jaime has become? When, and more importantly why, did his story take this turn? They were on the right track until S5 -- driving the wedges between him and his family members, playing up his desire to do the right thing by the Stark girls even to House Lannister's detriment -- but this was all abruptly dropped and now he's just his sister's yes-man again. He's absolutely nowhere near the turning point in his story arc, the string of experiences that lead him to strive for a bit of personal redemption and eventually break away from Cersei. I know they haven't been kind to his character in the show (rape and kinslaying weren't additional sins he needed to bear), and his mangled corpse was one of many victims recovered from the Dorne train wreck, but until now it hasn't felt like they just don't have a plan for him at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LulaMae Barnes Posted May 17, 2016 Author Share Posted May 17, 2016 19 hours ago, Mindwalker said: The rest:The Wall: Oh dear God, they WILL be slashing Jon and Sansa. Look at all the hand touching! Btw., Sansa feels like yet another personality now. How many does she still have in her? Ha! Multiple personalities! That's it. In the show none of the Stark children have any special skills/abilities except for Bran, who can "warg" into living beings. They leave out Arya's and Jon's "warging skills" completely - but now they finally show that there are other Starks with awesome prowess: Sansa has multiple personalities and can change her character ever so often! Great. And also: empowering! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ser Desmond Wine's Bane Posted May 17, 2016 Share Posted May 17, 2016 9 minutes ago, Jamie Lannister said: Why, did his story take this turn? "creatively it makes sense because we wanted it to happen." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rubicante Posted May 17, 2016 Share Posted May 17, 2016 13 hours ago, Trinket2 said: They should just have Ramsay kill everybody. Ramsay goes on a one-man killing spree, from Winterfell to the south, sweeping across Westeros, down and up until he reaches and claims the Iron Throne. The series ends with him feeding Dany's dragons to his dogs, drowning Tyrion in a barrel of wine and killing all the White Walkers in single combat, bare chested. The end scene is Ramsay sitting on his throne in the Red Keep, smiling, the banner with the Flayed man flying in the wind, and snow falling over King's Landing. The end. Come now. I don't think there is any way Ramsay could do this on his own. However, with the assistance of 20 good men he not only conquer all of Westeros, but Essos as well. PS. I don't think I will ever get tired of any joke involving Ramsay and his 20 good men. I know I should stop, but I can't help myself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LulaMae Barnes Posted May 17, 2016 Author Share Posted May 17, 2016 2 minutes ago, Jamie Lannister said: Does it bother anyone else at how much of a toady Jaime has become? When, and more importantly why, did his story take this turn? They were on the right track until S5 -- driving the wedges between him and his family members, playing up his desire to do the right thing by the Stark girls even to House Lannister's detriment -- but this was all abruptly dropped and now he's just his sister's yes-man again. He's absolutely nowhere near the turning point in his story arc, the string of experiences that lead him to strive for a bit of personal redemption and eventually break away from Cersei. It bothers ME immensely - he is now downright insufferable and hateful. I think the Dornish air didn't become him (or wearing Oberyns old clothes somehow ruined him) - but he is god awful - and I feel sorry for NCW who has to act out the nonsense D&D write for his character. I think it all started going downhill at the end of season 4, when he forgot to mention the truth about Tysha while freeing his brother, who then in return should have told him the truth about Cersei (I sooooooo wanted to see that scene!!!). Or maybe it was when Cersei shamelessly seduced him again in the White Sword Tower after telling Tywin about all the incest. Nope, it might already have been in that episode with the ridiculous "kung kung kung beetle smash" dialogue (which of course was stunning and briiiiiiiiiiilliantly written). Anyhow, it makes me sad - and angry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nami Posted May 17, 2016 Share Posted May 17, 2016 33 minutes ago, Jamie Lannister said: Does it bother anyone else at how much of a toady Jaime has become? When, and more importantly why, did his story take this turn? They were on the right track until S5 -- driving the wedges between him and his family members, playing up his desire to do the right thing by the Stark girls even to House Lannister's detriment -- but this was all abruptly dropped and now he's just his sister's yes-man again. He's absolutely nowhere near the turning point in his story arc, the string of experiences that lead him to strive for a bit of personal redemption and eventually break away from Cersei. I know they haven't been kind to his character in the show (rape and kinslaying weren't additional sins he needed to bear), and his mangled corpse was one of many victims recovered from the Dorne train wreck, but until now it hasn't felt like they just don't have a plan for him at all. Yes they had his character taking several steps forward and then decided to go back all those steps and he's the Jaime from season 1 again. I gave up completely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nami Posted May 17, 2016 Share Posted May 17, 2016 16 minutes ago, LulaMae Barnes said: I think it all started going downhill at the end of season 4, when he forgot to mention the truth about Tysha while freeing his brother, who then in return should have told him the truth about Cersei (I sooooooo wanted to see that scene!!!). Or maybe it was when Cersei shamelessly seduced him again in the White Sword Tower after telling Tywin about all the incest. Why oh why they didn't include that? It contributes to Tyrion's breakdown and shows Jaime's regrets over the awful things he's done and his path for atonement! His charater is completely useless and empty now. I feel like they have no idea what to do with him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LulaMae Barnes Posted May 17, 2016 Author Share Posted May 17, 2016 Mercy killing? Maybe... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bear Posted May 17, 2016 Share Posted May 17, 2016 47 minutes ago, Jamie Lannister said: Does it bother anyone else at how much of a toady Jaime has become? When, and more importantly why, did his story take this turn? They were on the right track until S5 -- driving the wedges between him and his family members, playing up his desire to do the right thing by the Stark girls even to House Lannister's detriment -- but this was all abruptly dropped and now he's just his sister's yes-man again. He's absolutely nowhere near the turning point in his story arc, the string of experiences that lead him to strive for a bit of personal redemption and eventually break away from Cersei. I know they haven't been kind to his character in the show (rape and kinslaying weren't additional sins he needed to bear), and his mangled corpse was one of many victims recovered from the Dorne train wreck, but until now it hasn't felt like they just don't have a plan for him at all. I totally agree with this. They've 100% derailed Jaime and I don't see how he can get back on track. He's Cersei's lapdog, just as he was in season one. I think I need to just make peace with show Dany being a magical fireproof unicorn. After this episode it's going to become canon to show people and no amount of 'but George says she isn't fireproof...' will help. I have to just let it go or it will drive me to distraction. I loved Tormund eyeing Brienne. He seems like he would go for Brienne. I miss vulnerable Brienne. The scene with Brienne, Davos and Mel irked me. He's only NOW asking about Stannis and Shireen? He absolutely dotes on Shireen, I can't believe he would just let it go after what Mel said (which was extremely vague). I know not much time has passed between their arrival, Jon dying, everything that happened in the aftermath and now, but Davos' reactions just seemed off. I would have thought he'd be pretty devastated. The scene with Dany made me roll my eyes (not including the fireproof issue) because I feel like we've seen this scene a thousand times already Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoamingRonin Posted May 17, 2016 Share Posted May 17, 2016 "Shall we throw him threw the moon door?" U wot m8? You want to hike back up that mountain just to throw someone off? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
williamwire Posted May 17, 2016 Share Posted May 17, 2016 GOT Season 6: Men so weak, women so strong, revenge is awesome ...to emphasize one of the themes of this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
williamwire Posted May 17, 2016 Share Posted May 17, 2016 also is this the reveal of the "war of the three queens?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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