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On 21/10/2016 at 6:27 PM, DireWolfSpirit said:

What creeps me right the F out is people eating in bed. Nothing more grotesque than rolling in some crumbs.

ive been guilty of this once or twice but it IS horrible and i don't do it anymore, crumbs in bed is just *shiver* the WORST 

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On 10/21/2016 at 7:24 PM, TheMightyKC said:

So, I've been involved the last six months or so with a local alternative medicine group.  My family and I had all got these terrible bug bites awhile back, and nothing the doctors prescribed worked.  We went to allergy specialists and it just got worse and worse.  Finally, one of the other families from our church turned us on to this group.  They aren't a bunch of dopey hippies or anything but some of them are into crystals and stuff which kind of scared us.  It seemed... Satanic.

 

Well long story short, the one thing that seemed to help with the itching was sugary foods.  The girls were going into 711 and just downing big Gulps before sed left the parking lot, and we were buying the industrial sized bags of Swedish fish and pixie sticks.  I found myself besotted with Ovaltine and whoppers.

 

Well, one of the women in the alt health group gave us some local honey and it worked wonders.  I started sneaking it into the girls instant breakfasts and my wife and I had a spoonful each in our decaf tea in the morning and at bed.

 

Within about 72 hours, the welts had subsided and the itching was barely palpable.  We keep some in the glove box now.

 

Anyway, while the honey was a smashing success, I'm starting to worry were the victims of a scam.  We pay a decent weekly fee for a supplement basket, and while it isn't outright suspicious or anything, there have been some homeopathic stuff, and home made yogurts that are supposed to have special 'probies'.  

This one guy (who I know has a marijuana prescription) has been trying to sell us some "manatee cheese".  This isn't in the groups weekly basket, it's a side deal.  He does have a house down in the keys and is a big time fisherman (is also the guy that makes the yogurt and has chickens), but this seems a little far-fetched.  It's supposed to have all these great properties, but it sounds legally questionable (do manatees even have milk?!?!) And could it even be safe?  And what do the manatee kits eat if there isn't enough milk?

 

A few other members have been buying it and are loving it.  I want to ask some church friends but am worried about getting the family that introduced us to the alt med group in trouble (most of the alt med group are vocal nonbelievers).  

 

On the other hand, the honey was a legitimate miracle and everyone else is raving about the manatee cheese.

 

Anyone have any first hand or even second hand experience with this?

 

God bless, thanks!

 

I would steer clear of anyone who is trying to sell me anything even remotely resembling Hoemeopathic medicine.  Pure snake oil.

What magical properties is this manatee cheese supposed to posses?  Or is it just supposed to be delicious

 

 

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On 22/10/2016 at 3:24 AM, TheMightyKC said:

So, I've been involved the last six months or so with a local alternative medicine group.  My family and I had all got these terrible bug bites awhile back, and nothing the doctors prescribed worked.  We went to allergy specialists and it just got worse and worse.  Finally, one of the other families from our church turned us on to this group.  They aren't a bunch of dopey hippies or anything but some of them are into crystals and stuff which kind of scared us.  It seemed... Satanic.

 

Well long story short, the one thing that seemed to help with the itching was sugary foods.  The girls were going into 711 and just downing big Gulps before sed left the parking lot, and we were buying the industrial sized bags of Swedish fish and pixie sticks.  I found myself besotted with Ovaltine and whoppers.

 

Well, one of the women in the alt health group gave us some local honey and it worked wonders.  I started sneaking it into the girls instant breakfasts and my wife and I had a spoonful each in our decaf tea in the morning and at bed.

 

Within about 72 hours, the welts had subsided and the itching was barely palpable.  We keep some in the glove box now.

 

Anyway, while the honey was a smashing success, I'm starting to worry were the victims of a scam.  We pay a decent weekly fee for a supplement basket, and while it isn't outright suspicious or anything, there have been some homeopathic stuff, and home made yogurts that are supposed to have special 'probies'.  

This one guy (who I know has a marijuana prescription) has been trying to sell us some "manatee cheese".  This isn't in the groups weekly basket, it's a side deal.  He does have a house down in the keys and is a big time fisherman (is also the guy that makes the yogurt and has chickens), but this seems a little far-fetched.  It's supposed to have all these great properties, but it sounds legally questionable (do manatees even have milk?!?!) And could it even be safe?  And what do the manatee kits eat if there isn't enough milk?

 

A few other members have been buying it and are loving it.  I want to ask some church friends but am worried about getting the family that introduced us to the alt med group in trouble (most of the alt med group are vocal nonbelievers).  

 

On the other hand, the honey was a legitimate miracle and everyone else is raving about the manatee cheese.

 

Anyone have any first hand or even second hand experience with this?

 

God bless, thanks!

Honestly mate it just sounds like the honey thing was a regression to the mean.

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Raw honey is great, but you don't have to join a homeopathic group to get it. Given the possibility of clostridium botulinum contamination, you may even want to go with a more reputable supplier. FWIW, Burt's Bees has a line of skin products with topical probiotic supplements that might promote better overall skin health (read: increased resistance to itchiness) as well.

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Homeopathic medicine has no side-effects and tricks the body into healing itself via the placebo effect. You might get similar results via the magic water.

Probiotics are no joke, though. More and more disorders are being linked to unhealthy gut bacteria composition, and it should help to give the good strains a boost. Still, our knowledge of this important symbiosis is still in its infancy and I have no idea if this particular special hippy yogurt will help you. 

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Is this even for real? Or legal?  I had to google this.

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Once at the milking grounds, our milkmaid Mary ventures forth into the depths to gather the milk. Wearing wetsuit and diving gear, along with thick rubber gloves "to get a better grip,"

Mary soon has her pails full of what we are sure is nutritious manatee milk. Mary's past experience greased pig wrestling in her native Estonia has well-prepared her for the daily rigors of milking a manatee.

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5 minutes ago, Ded As Ned said:

Is this even for real? Or legal?  I had to google this.

 

 

You didn't highlight the "experienced in greasednpig wrestling part"?!?! What is this world coming to?  But yeah I imagine it's tough to fill a pail with milk underwater.... Unless the milk doesn't mix with seawater?  

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I had meant to bold the whole thing at the end, but missed.  

In other news, I did learn today why AM radio reception is so much poorer at night compared to daytime, a thing I've wondered about for a long time. (I listen to sports radio on AM here, but my reception is always fine during the day and basically nothing after dark). It's because the FCC makes them turn down the wattage on the transmitter at night to avoid interference with surrounding stations; as apparently the signal travels farther at night due to complicated atmospheric stuff. 

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1 hour ago, Weeping Sore said:

Homeopathic medicine has no side-effects and tricks the body into healing itself via the placebo effect. You might get similar results via the magic water.

No.  It doesn't.  it does basically nothing, and it CAN have side effects.  There is no logical reason to ever take homeopathic medicine.

 

http://acsh.org/news/2016/10/17/homeopathy-lost-one-science-10311

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7 minutes ago, Swordfish said:

No.  It doesn't.  it does basically nothing, and it CAN have side effects.  There is no logical reason to ever take homeopathic medicine.

 

http://acsh.org/news/2016/10/17/homeopathy-lost-one-science-10311

Dude. Read my post again. I said any positive results are from the placebo effect. I guess it's possible there might be something harmful in what homeopaths consider "lower" doses (lower doses are diluted less, so could actually contain molecules of the things they say they have in them) the "higher" doses are diluted more and are therefore (don't ask why) supposed to be stronger, but you know, science shows that when you dilute something that much there's very little chance of anything being there other than the tiny sugar ball. So it's a placebo. People who take it and claim positive results have benefitted from the placebo effect.

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7 minutes ago, Weeping Sore said:

Dude. Read my post again. I said any positive results are from the placebo effect. I guess it's possible there might be something harmful in what homeopaths consider "lower" doses (lower doses are diluted less, so could actually contain molecules of the things they say they have in them) the "higher" doses are diluted more and are therefore (don't ask why) supposed to be stronger, but you know, science shows that when you dilute something that much there's very little chance of anything being there other than the tiny sugar ball. So it's a placebo. People who take it and claim positive results have benefitted from the placebo effect.

'It might be as good as a placebo' is not a logical reason to take this shit, for reasons that should be obvious, since the risk is not zero as you claimed.

No one should purchase or take homeopathic medicine.  Period.

 

 

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24 minutes ago, Swordfish said:

No.  It doesn't.  it does basically nothing, and it CAN have side effects.  There is no logical reason to ever take homeopathic medicine.

There is an unfortunate gray area where your regular GP might not know about remedies not being shilled by their pharma rep (and even tell you not to use them), but a specialist costing 3x as much who won't see you without a referral might tell you the same thing is a good idea. Seeing a DO instead of an MD with questions about non-standard remedies can cover some of that gray area, but sometimes you gotta do your own research. Which sucks until you hit on the right key words. 

On "naturopathic" remedies for problems that may be linked to microbiome stuff (which is probably nearly all of them), adding "human microbiome project" to a search cuts out most of the garbage results, FYI.

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37 minutes ago, Swordfish said:

'It might be as good as a placebo' is not a logical reason to take this shit, for reasons that should be obvious, since the risk is not zero as you claimed.

No one should purchase or take homeopathic medicine.  Period.

 

 

It can't both "do nothing" and "have side-effects" can it? If you're allowing for the possibility of a side-effect, you're allowing for the possibility of an effect aren't you? Nevertheless, it's good advice not to waste your money on a placebo that could potentially be adulterated with something harmful. I mean probably not as harmful as the yellow lake #40 in your penny candy, but still.

I still think you mistook my initial facetious endorsement of homeopathic medicine at face value. My point is quackery sometimes makes people feel better. Faith healing, psychic surgery, homeopathy, all bullshit, but some people claim to feel better afterward. Who are we to harsh on their mellow?

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20 hours ago, Liffguard said:

Honestly mate it just sounds like the honey thing was a regression to the mean.

Local honey is a thing with fighting hayfever.  Something about controlled exposure or what have you.  I eat it because it's delicious.

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1 hour ago, Weeping Sore said:

It can't both "do nothing" and "have side-effects" can it? If you're allowing for the possibility of a side-effect, you're allowing for the possibility of an effect aren't you? Nevertheless, it's good advice not to waste your money on a placebo that could potentially be adulterated with something harmful. I mean probably not as harmful as the yellow lake #40 in your penny candy, but still.

I still think you mistook my initial facetious endorsement of homeopathic medicine at face value. My point is quackery sometimes makes people feel better. Faith healing, psychic surgery, homeopathy, all bullshit, but some people claim to feel better afterward. Who are we to harsh on their mellow?

Oops...  Yes, I did.  Sorry!

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Not really worthy of a thread of it's own.  Just wondering if anyone has Google Fiber.  It was just installed in my neighborhood and I'm thinking of getting it, but not sure if it's worth it.  I have ATT, which isn't great, but it's decent enough.  I just have internet, no cable.  I don't do a lot of downloading or gaming, but I watch all my tv streaming and sometimes the speed sucks.  The idea of super fast internet is enticing, but I'm not sure if someone like me really needs the type of speed google fiber offers.  I've read mixed reviews about the service.  Any comments?

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16 hours ago, Lily Valley said:

Local honey is a thing with fighting hayfever.  Something about controlled exposure or what have you.  I eat it because it's delicious.

That's fair, and I suppose it's not totally implausible it might have some beneficial effect on bug bites. But in general, whenever I hear any variation on the theme of "I had a minor ailment, then I took some [insert non-standard remedy here], then a few days later it got better," I assume that it's regression to the mean.

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