A bowl of brown Posted June 7, 2016 Share Posted June 7, 2016 So first we get magic loyalty inducing candy and now magic psychology healing beer. Brilliant. And why are the freys dressed like extrasfrom monty python and the holy grail? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yakisikli123 Posted June 7, 2016 Share Posted June 7, 2016 8 minutes ago, Cas Stark said: Plus, um they both, Jon and Sansa, know that Bran is also alive, and have not spoken about it, or done jack shit about it. And Sansa knows her sister is/was alive also, and not done jack about it. The more I think about it, neither of them do deserve anyone in the North to follow them, they're both dimwitted and now disloyal. Although, I can't say that watching the two dopes fail and fail in getting the North to rally for them is very dramatically satisfying. It will rob their eventual victory of any sense of victory, it won't be the North rallying for the Starks, it will be the two nitwits getting WF back in spite of the North, that's awful storytelling to gut such a huge huge milestone likethat. What should they tell them. Bran a cripple, Rickon child.... they are with wildlings (hated from other part), for Jon it doesnst matter, he is like on drugs, doesnt know why he is there with them. I dont think he wants his home back, and you want him fight for his nonbrothers nonsisters. And if Bran wants to be king then he should come and fight. They want support the powerful ones not Starks. This episode shows us that the name Stark is dead, born of the name Targ, Jon SupBadTarg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dolorous Gabe Posted June 7, 2016 Share Posted June 7, 2016 Very little stands up to scrutiny. It's all indicative that the show runners simply cannot handle juggling so many storylines and character motivations. Something important is nearly always forgotten or ignored in scene. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daenerys_Is_Coming Posted June 7, 2016 Share Posted June 7, 2016 I have many very very unsullied friends who are casual show watchers. This week I've received at least 4 texts asking "Who is Blackfish"? I feel like the writers really botched this one for the Unsullied. The last time we saw Blackfish was so long ago that any casual viewer would be completely confused. I feel like they've done a terrible disservice to viewers by backburning the Riverlands story arc for so long, that no one remembers and no one cares. I'm curious as to why they waited so long to circle back around to AFFC territory? Was it budget constraints? Actor constraints? Lazy writing? Confused writing? It took me about 10 minutes to explain to someone that he was Catelyn's uncle to which she then said "Who's Catelyn"? That's the problem. It's been too long since casual viewers were connected to the Tully storyline and no one remembers or has cares about this awesome storyline because ... "OOOOH look Dragons!" What a shame. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yakisikli123 Posted June 7, 2016 Share Posted June 7, 2016 3 minutes ago, Daenerys_Is_Coming said: I have many very very unsullied friends who are casual show watchers. This week I've received at least 4 texts asking "Who is Blackfish"? I feel like the writers really botched this one for the Unsullied. The last time we saw Blackfish was so long ago that any casual viewer would be completely confused. I feel like they've done a terrible disservice to viewers by backburning the Riverlands story arc for so long, that no one remembers and no one cares. I'm curious as to why they waited so long to circle back around to AFFC territory? Was it budget constraints? Actor constraints? Lazy writing? Confused writing? It took me about 10 minutes to explain to someone that he was Catelyn's uncle to which she then said "Who's Catelyn"? That's the problem. It's been too long since casual viewers were connected to the Tully storyline and no one remembers or has cares about this awesome storyline because ... "OOOOH look Dragons!" What a shame. Did you say Catelyn Stark or only Catelyn, then its normal that they ask such a question. They cannot show all characters, the series here are each episode 2h long and hundreds of episodes, only then you can cover all things in books written. I complain about porn scenes or nude people, you complain about another........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cas Stark Posted June 7, 2016 Share Posted June 7, 2016 15 minutes ago, Daenerys_Is_Coming said: I have many very very unsullied friends who are casual show watchers. This week I've received at least 4 texts asking "Who is Blackfish"? I feel like the writers really botched this one for the Unsullied. The last time we saw Blackfish was so long ago that any casual viewer would be completely confused. I feel like they've done a terrible disservice to viewers by backburning the Riverlands story arc for so long, that no one remembers and no one cares. I'm curious as to why they waited so long to circle back around to AFFC territory? Was it budget constraints? Actor constraints? Lazy writing? Confused writing? It took me about 10 minutes to explain to someone that he was Catelyn's uncle to which she then said "Who's Catelyn"? That's the problem. It's been too long since casual viewers were connected to the Tully storyline and no one remembers or has cares about this awesome storyline because ... "OOOOH look Dragons!" What a shame. They're hacks. They lavish time on pointless filler that adds nothing, and they are incapable of keeping the thread of any story or character who isn't front and center all the time. It would have been EASY to include a few minutes of the Riverlands in seasons 4 & 5 if they intended to revist the BF, or at the very least, keep name checking him like they did with Walder Frey and the Manderlys instead of literally, not been mentioned since the last ep of season 3. But, based on the show's typical MO, it won't matter, because he'll probably die in one of the next 3 eps. I have no idea why they bothered to bring back Natalia Tena to kill her off w/1 scene. Again, she could have been used to give some context to the Northern situation and at least we could have been manipulated to love her again before they killed her. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Centrist Simon Steele Posted June 7, 2016 Share Posted June 7, 2016 Maybe it was posted here and I missed it, but did you guys know one of the Riverlands massacre guys was Lem Lemoncloak? Like seriously, he is going around murdering people now? If it hasn't been mentioned or discussed here is a link: http://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/tv/news/game-of-thrones-season-6-lady-stoneheart-lemoncloak-brotherhood-without-banners-speculation-theory-a7068771.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SweetPea Posted June 7, 2016 Share Posted June 7, 2016 11 minutes ago, Daenerys_Is_Coming said: I'm curious as to why they waited so long to circle back around to AFFC territory? Was it budget constraints? Actor constraints? Lazy writing? Confused writing? I don't know, it feels like they wanted to skip a lot of AFFC stuff at first, but then realized they would have to go into TWoW territory this season, with very little book material to work from. So they decided to go back to AFFC instead. But why? They don't seem to give a shit about the books, they're doing all they can to be different. I have no idea. D&D's brains work in mysterious ways. Honestly, they should have just gone straight into TWoW. Jon should have retaken Winterfell by now, and the second half of the season could have been about the Others. I'd rather they just skip stuff, that way they can't ruin it. I was angry at first that they weren't going to include Arianne; now I'm glad they didn't, I fear to imagine what they would have done with her. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gargarax Posted June 7, 2016 Share Posted June 7, 2016 10 minutes ago, SweetPea said: I was angry at first that they weren't going to include Arianne; now I'm glad they didn't, I fear to imagine what they would have done with her. That reminds me of Sarella in Oldtown ... could Sam run into the Sandsnakes for some reason? Will they eat Gilly's baby during a sex orgy? Or will they tease Sam to death with one of their striptease poisons? All perfectly possible, you have to admit! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nami Posted June 7, 2016 Share Posted June 7, 2016 1 hour ago, Daenerys_Is_Coming said: I have many very very unsullied friends who are casual show watchers. This week I've received at least 4 texts asking "Who is Blackfish"? I feel like the writers really botched this one for the Unsullied. The last time we saw Blackfish was so long ago that any casual viewer would be completely confused. I feel like they've done a terrible disservice to viewers by backburning the Riverlands story arc for so long, that no one remembers and no one cares. I'm curious as to why they waited so long to circle back around to AFFC territory? Was it budget constraints? Actor constraints? Lazy writing? Confused writing? It took me about 10 minutes to explain to someone that he was Catelyn's uncle to which she then said "Who's Catelyn"? That's the problem. It's been too long since casual viewers were connected to the Tully storyline and no one remembers or has cares about this awesome storyline because ... "OOOOH look Dragons!" What a shame. Dragons, rapes and tits, omg this show is so edgy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SerMixalot Posted June 7, 2016 Share Posted June 7, 2016 12 hours ago, Le Cygne said: I want a spinoff show with her. She could kick all of their asses. I did love her telling the Maester to "talk to the hand" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SerMixalot Posted June 7, 2016 Share Posted June 7, 2016 11 hours ago, Illiterati said: I respectfully argue that young Lady Mormont didn't have an anti-Stark attitude, but rather questioned whether she should consider the two that were facing her as Starks. And they told her Ramsey holds Rickon, who she would think is now the KotN Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ruhail Posted June 7, 2016 Share Posted June 7, 2016 @Gargarax Seeing your avatar reminds how royaly shit and how much disservice they've done to Varys as a character. Urggh what a waste of a fantastic actor who is only there to service St. Tyrion and Firestarter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SerMixalot Posted June 7, 2016 Share Posted June 7, 2016 WRT Lil Lady Mormont and the Sandra I think she is a Sansa-Jon shipper and was caught saying Sanjo(n) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SerMixalot Posted June 7, 2016 Share Posted June 7, 2016 BTW, I want to point out that Jon holds a letter from Ramsey stating 1. He holds Rickon 2.Proves that Sandra RAN from Ramsey-showing her marriage was a forced farce 3. Directly threatens Jon and Sandra Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SerMixalot Posted June 7, 2016 Share Posted June 7, 2016 I also want to point out the extreme obviousness that the writers could have EASILY had the Northern houses rallying to Jon and Sansa AND had Jon and Sansa fighting as underdogs for dramatic tension sake. Simply have Mormont and Glover pledge themselves to the Starks but say that the wars have cost them so many men they are left with few and those are beardless boys and old men. Sell it that some houses did go over to Bolton for their own reasons. But it could easily have been done without Jon and Sandra looking like idiots Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SerMixalot Posted June 7, 2016 Share Posted June 7, 2016 1 hour ago, Cas Stark said: They're hacks. They lavish time on pointless filler that adds nothing, and they are incapable of keeping the thread of any story or character who isn't front and center all the time. It would have been EASY to include a few minutes of the Riverlands in seasons 4 & 5 if they intended to revist the BF, or at the very least, keep name checking him like they did with Walder Frey and the Manderlys instead of literally, not been mentioned since the last ep of season 3. But, based on the show's typical MO, it won't matter, because he'll probably die in one of the next 3 eps. I have no idea why they bothered to bring back Natalia Tena to kill her off w/1 scene. Again, she could have been used to give some context to the Northern situation and at least we could have been manipulated to love her again before they killed her. the scene of Sansa and Jon and company eating at CB had 60 seconds of silence and looks, WASTED TIME Tyrion meeting with MissWorm had nearly 3 minutes of NOTHING Time is a commodity that they waste Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SweetPea Posted June 7, 2016 Share Posted June 7, 2016 8 minutes ago, Ruhail said: @Gargarax Seeing your avatar reminds how royaly shit and how much disservice they've done to Varys as a character. Urggh what a waste of a fantastic actor who is only there to service St. Tyrion and Firestarter. And that reminds me how much I want to see Conleth Hill in a Tuf Voyaging series. That guy was born to be Haviland Tuf. But only if D&D stay very far away of course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Armand Gargalen Posted June 7, 2016 Share Posted June 7, 2016 10 minutes ago, SerMixalot said: BTW, I want to point out that Jon holds a letter from Ramsey stating 1. He holds Rickon 2.Proves that Sandra RAN from Ramsey-showing her marriage was a forced farce 3. Directly threatens Jon and Sandra I was also reminded reading another thread that Jon holds Longclaw, the Mormonts' ancestral valyrian longsword. You would expect it at least being brought up as a proof of Jeor Mormont's trust on Jon durin the conversation with Lady Lyanna. But nope, not a single mention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ruhail Posted June 7, 2016 Share Posted June 7, 2016 5 minutes ago, Armand Gargalen said: I was also reminded reading another thread that Jon holds Longclaw, the Mormonts' ancestral valyrian longsword. You would expect it at least being brought up as a proof of Jeor Mormont's trust on Jon durin the conversation with Lady Lyanna. But nope, not a single mention Themes am I right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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