Mladen Posted June 6, 2016 Share Posted June 6, 2016 So, the Northern campaign was rather underwhelming. Jon and Sansa obviously weren't successful although the question remains regarding the letter Sansa wrote (most likely to Baelish). What can we expect from this dynamic duo? And how will the campaign resolve? We can mourn the lack of "North remembers" speech but perhaps the next time Regarding Sansa, the episode brought Sandor back, so there is that aspect to think about too... As always, welcome and try to enjoy discussing Sansa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anjulibai Posted June 6, 2016 Share Posted June 6, 2016 I expected her to speak more on their behalf. She was leaving so much of it to Jon, and to a lesser degree Davos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Florina Laufeyson Posted June 6, 2016 Share Posted June 6, 2016 Im really salty about the fact she didnt speak up until the Glovers. And im even more salty about how OOC the Glovers are. W h a t. And where my Manderlys at? Holy shit, and 62 Mormont men? Cogman, imma cut a bitch! Sansa had no choice but to send a raven to LF for Vale guys. Im just gonna hope she takes Bronze Yohn's side when he tells her whats up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ValrianSunni Posted June 6, 2016 Share Posted June 6, 2016 I thought maybe the raven was to Brienne... or to the Blackfish himself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lakin1013 Posted June 6, 2016 Share Posted June 6, 2016 I am confused about the letter to Littlefinger, making the assumption that he was the intended recipient. She already knew about the soldiers he offered her. Why didn't she take him up on it then? Then she lied to Jon. Now, she is sending a raven, presumably asking for the soldiers. WHAT is she doing? It doesn't make sense to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mbuehner Posted June 6, 2016 Share Posted June 6, 2016 21 minutes ago, Florina Laufeyson said: Im really salty about the fact she didnt speak up until the Glovers. And im even more salty about how OOC the Glovers are. W h a t. And where my Manderlys at? Holy shit, and 62 Mormont men? Cogman, imma cut a bitch! Sansa had no choice but to send a raven to LF for Vale guys. Im just gonna hope she takes Bronze Yohn's side when he tells her whats up. Stand down, its early. Was that letter really to LF? Or to Manderly? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ross2013 Posted June 6, 2016 Share Posted June 6, 2016 1 minute ago, lakin1013 said: I am confused about the letter to Littlefinger, making the assumption that he was the intended recipient. She already knew about the soldiers he offered her. Why didn't she take him up on it then? Then she lied to Jon. Now, she is sending a raven, presumably asking for the soldiers. WHAT is she doing? It doesn't make sense to me. I think she clearly hoped that would she would not need LF's help. Now, desperate times... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Florina Laufeyson Posted June 6, 2016 Share Posted June 6, 2016 1 minute ago, mbuehner said: Stand down, its early. Was that letter really to LF? Or to Manderly? If its to Manderly or Blackfish or anyone else, why was the music so goddamn foreboding? come on, dude, it was to LF. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mbuehner Posted June 6, 2016 Share Posted June 6, 2016 Just now, Florina Laufeyson said: If its to Manderly or Blackfish or anyone else, why was the music so goddamn foreboding? come on, dude, it was to LF. For exactly this reason, LF is obvious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
throney Posted June 6, 2016 Share Posted June 6, 2016 2 minutes ago, Ross2013 said: I think she clearly hoped that would she would not need LF's help. Now, desperate times... This was my take on it as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ingelheim Posted June 6, 2016 Share Posted June 6, 2016 She didn't want the Vale armies because she thought Jon and her could take the North on their own. She didn't want anything to do with LF. One she realizes they can't, she sends the letter to LF. It's quite simple, actually. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anjulibai Posted June 6, 2016 Share Posted June 6, 2016 5 minutes ago, Ross2013 said: I think she clearly hoped that would she would not need LF's help. Now, desperate times... That was my take, too. She lied to Jon because she wanted to go it alone with Jon - the two eldest living Stark siblings take back the North together is how she was envisioning it. But, obviously they are going to need more help, so she's doing what she has to do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King of Winter-ish Stuff Posted June 6, 2016 Share Posted June 6, 2016 I honestly think it's going to the Cerwyn's or Manderly's. She signed it "Sansa Stark". My money's on that letter going to the Cerwyn's or Manderly's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aryagonnakill#2 Posted June 6, 2016 Share Posted June 6, 2016 51 minutes ago, Risto said: So, the Northern campaign was rather underwhelming. Jon and Sansa obviously weren't successful although the question remains regarding the letter Sansa wrote (most likely to Baelish). What can we expect from this dynamic duo? And how will the campaign resolve? We can mourn the lack of "North remembers" speech but perhaps the next time Regarding Sansa, the episode brought Sandor back, so there is that aspect to think about too... As always, welcome and try to enjoy discussing Sansa Why is it most likely that the letter was to Baelish and not the Manderlys when they were promenently mentioned as 1 of the strongest houses earlier in the season? Bearing in mind I do not have any extra knowledge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mbuehner Posted June 6, 2016 Share Posted June 6, 2016 Look at this from Sansa's arc- if she writes to LF, its a complete fail for her as a character. If its to Manderly (shes already sent her most loyal subject to Riverrun), it advances her arc. Not saying its a lock, but its a pretty obvious redirect imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ross2013 Posted June 6, 2016 Share Posted June 6, 2016 1 minute ago, aryagonnakill#2 said: Why is it obvious that the letter was to Baelish and not the Manderlys when they were promenently mentioned as 1 of the strongest houses earlier in the season? Bearing in mind I do not have any extra knowledge. Given how things have gone, I doubt Sansa is betting her life on a raven to a House they didn't even visit. She knows LF will show up. And I'm sure she knows that she will likely pay a terrible price for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lakin1013 Posted June 6, 2016 Share Posted June 6, 2016 8 minutes ago, Ross2013 said: I think she clearly hoped that would she would not need LF's help. Now, desperate times... But if it is desperate times, wouldn't she be more engaged in the House wooing than she was? And what kind of strategy is pissing one of the lords off? How is that going to work for her (and in fact, it didn't)! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colonel Green Posted June 6, 2016 Share Posted June 6, 2016 Just now, lakin1013 said: But if it is desperate times, wouldn't she be more engaged in the House wooing than she was? And what kind of strategy is pissing one of the lords off? How is that going to work for her (and in fact, it didn't)! At that point they really didn't have any other cards to play, so she tried pulling rank. Obviously it didn't work. As far as the letter, clearly that was to Littlefinger. Her whole attitude around writing it makes no sense if it's to anybody else. Indeed, arguably the whole Northern plotline this season has been written around getting her to ask for his help, hence, e.g., the Glovers refusing to help them, the Mormonts having so few men, etc. They really don't have any other choice. We'll have to wait for next episode to see what happens next, but there's really no reason for her to keep the Valemen a secret past this point. If that happens, it's a pretty clear case of the writers trying to create artificial tension in a story that otherwise wouldn't have any. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Future Null Infinity Posted June 6, 2016 Share Posted June 6, 2016 It so simple to predict, jon, sansa and the wildlings will fight the boltons, they will be crushed by the boltons, proof http://www.trbimg.com/img-570c070b/turbine/os-game-of-thrones-season-6-trailer-2-hbo-20160411 and then when they are nearly defeated, LF and the knights of the vale will come and save the day, proof of baelish at winterfell http://screencrush.com/files/2016/04/got-break-littlefinger-pic.jpg I'm with sansa for calling LF, northerners are traitors for the starks and frack the glover for saying 'starks are dead' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christi84 Posted June 6, 2016 Share Posted June 6, 2016 13 minutes ago, Ross2013 said: I think she clearly hoped that would she would not need LF's help. Now, desperate times... I thought this as well. Though I was surprised she didnt try harder to speak up when it came to the Lords and Ladies. She of the 3 is the only legitimate Stark, so she shouldve talked more, but Lady Lyanna certainly let her know what the North itself must think of her Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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