DJE Posted June 8, 2016 Share Posted June 8, 2016 On 6/7/2016 at 5:44 AM, Robb_ said: I've got a real bad feeling about how this will play out. I just don't see the Tully's joining with Jon now that they already have a Vale army joining them. I can see Jaime maybe accepting an offer from the Blackfish, let them leave peacefully to march North and he can have Riverrun, but I really can't trust the Frey's to honour that deal. So: Brienne meets the Blackfish, gives him Sansa's letter. He thinks on it a while, decides helping them get revenge is more important than holding Riverrun. Makes a deal with Jaime, gives him Riverrun in exchange for allowing himself and his men to march North, Jaime accepts because he doesn't care, he just wants the Riverrun so he can go back to King's Landing. Frey's act on their own accord and kill Blackfish and his army as they march through the camp. Brienne and Pod escape later that night via sail boat. Maybe I'm just being pessimistic because Blackfish is my favourite character remaining and everyone else I like gets killed constantly, but I just don't see a happy conclusion here. I think the Freys are too cowardly to defy Jaime or the Lannisters, if he tells them this is how it will be, they will listen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bfin Posted June 8, 2016 Share Posted June 8, 2016 31 minutes ago, DJE said: I think the Freys are too cowardly to defy Jaime or the Lannisters, if he tells them this is how it will be, they will listen. I think that they will betray Jaime because he punked them so hard last episode especially the one brother. I thought that was the reason for that scene. No other reason for Jaime to belittle those brothers that much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJE Posted June 8, 2016 Share Posted June 8, 2016 3 hours ago, bfin said: I think that they will betray Jaime because he punked them so hard last episode especially the one brother. I thought that was the reason for that scene. No other reason for Jaime to belittle those brothers that much. I think they are way to scared to mess with House Lannister, plus, Jaime was speaking for the crown. Jaime punks them in the book as well, I think they will just take it because they are Freys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bfin Posted June 8, 2016 Share Posted June 8, 2016 3 minutes ago, DJE said: I think they are way to scared to mess with House Lannister, plus, Jaime was speaking for the crown. Jaime punks them in the book as well, I think they will just take it because they are Freys. They purposely showed the one brother not caring what Jaime was saying while the idiot was steady apologizing. Haven't read the books but I wouldn't see a reason for the show showing the conflict between the Frey brothers of its not important Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJE Posted June 8, 2016 Share Posted June 8, 2016 6 minutes ago, bfin said: They purposely showed the one brother not caring what Jaime was saying while the idiot was steady apologizing. Haven't read the books but I wouldn't see a reason for the show showing the conflict between the Frey brothers of its not important He may try to do something, then Jaime would have Bronn kill him, trust me, the Frey's won't go against the Lannisters, no one in the seven kingdoms would back them because of the Red Wedding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bfin Posted June 8, 2016 Share Posted June 8, 2016 2 minutes ago, DJE said: He may try to do something, then Jaime would have Bronn kill him, trust me, the Frey's won't go against the Lannisters, no one in the seven kingdoms would back them because of the Red Wedding. Thats all I was getting at. I imagine all the major Frey's get killed since they killed the hero family of the show Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biffins Posted June 8, 2016 Share Posted June 8, 2016 On 6/7/2016 at 8:56 AM, Lupus Major said: That is, atm, just a theory. Catelyn describes the hips of Robb's wife as "good for child bearing", while Jaime describes those of the girl who gets presented as Robb's widow as "narrow" (or was it slender?), which indicates they are two separate persons. GRRM has said that was just an error on his part. Make of that what you will. Maybe GRRM thinks narrow hips are good for child bearing. Conflict resolved! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minuteman Posted June 8, 2016 Share Posted June 8, 2016 My bet to how it goes down (on the show ): Brienne delivers Sansa's letter to BF and BF agrees to quit Riverrun in exchange for unmolested passage north. He doesn't trust Jaime so Jaime offers to accompany them as Brienne's hostage again. Once clear BF will exchange Jaime for Edmure. The Frey's betray and BF and/or Edmure are killed. Brienne meets up with Sandor either on her way to or from Riverrun. When the Tully army reaches Moat Caillin LF refuses to let them pass when he notices Sandor among them (remember Sandor was in the throne room when LF betrayed Ned and that would be the final dagger in his relationship with Sansa). In Ep9 'Battle of the Bastards' the Tully army is brought north bypassing Moat Caillin by being guided by the only faction that knows their way through the bogs: Howland Reed and the Crannogmen. The Tully army arrive just in time to turn the tide. LF stays out of it and realizes that the Sansa will ever after be a blood enemy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ludvig Carlson Posted June 9, 2016 Author Share Posted June 9, 2016 Minutemen// Like that theory a LOT and it does make sense sinne the show has introduced both the hound and Howland Reed this season. This would mean the season ending with Stark getting the north back, John getting to know his true linage, Sanaa and John getting to know LF betrayal... Which is a pretty good season finale which lays the ground work for next season... Which we are gonna have to wait a year for but this is just the first half of the winds of winter so us readers are gonna pass the show again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Perkis Posted June 9, 2016 Share Posted June 9, 2016 18 hours ago, bfin said: They purposely showed the one brother not caring what Jaime was saying while the idiot was steady apologizing. Haven't read the books but I wouldn't see a reason for the show showing the conflict between the Frey brothers of its not important Well in the books, the Jamie confrontation with the Freys at the beginning leads to that Frey leaving camp with his posse and then mysteriously disappearing (aka a noose around the neck). I was hoping that last episode sets the stage for a similar sequence of events but I doubt it at this point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ludvig Carlson Posted June 9, 2016 Author Share Posted June 9, 2016 6 hours ago, Soccer69 said: Well in the books, the Jamie confrontation with the Freys at the beginning leads to that Frey leaving camp with his posse and then mysteriously disappearing Well, several brotherhood characters are credited to be in the next couple of episodes so it makes sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmasca7 Posted June 10, 2016 Share Posted June 10, 2016 Blackfish will surrender the castle, and escape Batman style, not before escorting Brienne and Pod to one of the secret exits. Brienne and Pod go for a boat ride and get captured by the BwB. Riverrun is claimed by the Freys and they celebrate with the Lannister army. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
throney Posted June 10, 2016 Share Posted June 10, 2016 36 minutes ago, jmasca7 said: Blackfish will surrender the castle, and escape Batman style, not before escorting Brienne and Pod to one of the secret exits. Brienne and Pod go for a boat ride and get captured by the BwB. Riverrun is claimed by the Freys and they celebrate with the Lannister army. I'm thinking along the same lines, that the Blackfish will help Brienne and Pod escape. Maybe Riverrun will be taken by some Bronn magic, he did say to Tyrion that he could take the Eyrie with 10 good men and a few grappling hooks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aryagonnakill#2 Posted June 10, 2016 Share Posted June 10, 2016 On 6/8/2016 at 11:46 AM, mattnj81 said: I originally thought they were Freys, but watching it again I think those may be Tully banners. It only looks like a single tower on the flag, not two. The Tully banner is a fish... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattnj81 Posted June 10, 2016 Share Posted June 10, 2016 46 minutes ago, aryagonnakill#2 said: The Tully banner is a fish... I know that's what it is supposed to be, but someone posted a picture of their banner with a fish and a tower on it, I thought perhaps the show had simply changed it. That being said , it probably is just the Frey banners and we just can't see both towers in the shot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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