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14 hours ago, FoyeTwenty Boston said:

For such a pointless filler scene

It wasn't a pointless filler, poorly handled perhaps. Tyrion is an exiled, friendless, alcoholic (but functional) westerosi who, deep down, longs for home. Like Arya, Dany and Jorah.

The rest of the sequence was a set up for Grey Worm and Missandei to rule Meereen once Dany finally gtfo. Also it established that Tyrion's policies doesn't work in slaver's bay and that Dany's place definitively isn't there, regardless if she wasn't a great ruler to begin with.

 

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The role they gave to Tyrion this season makes me wonder if he will be around for long.

Looks like they do all they can to make the character look useless, his scenes boring and his political skills farcical, so they may get rid without changing anything to Dany's storyline (Tyrion is no dragon specialist, no political expert, no revenge against his own family obsessed Lannister with strong claim, just some drunkyard loving to make dick jokes, why would she need him ?). They even debunked Tyrion is Targ theories making him meet the dragons with no particular reaction from them (ok they could have given him full Quentyn's role when they were at it).

I suspect Dinklage now being a superstar he has lots of movies proposals so I wouldn't be surprised if his only role left is to remember the viewers everyone can die, and he ends the big unexpected death of the beginning of next season..

 

 

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12 hours ago, Tagganaro said:

I mean, in my opinion Dinklage is making nothing out of nothing this season.  His scenes are consistently low points of the episodes he appears in as he has nothing to really do but make jokes to Grey Worm and Missandei and Varys.  I don't think it's Dinklage's fault at all, there's just no reason for his character to even be appearing outside of it being Dinklage and Tyrion being such a hit character early on.  

I agree.

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8 hours ago, Lord_Ravenstone said:

Sorry, man, but nothing Tyrion does here is remotely as interesting as his interactions with Aegon's crew 

But (thankfully) there's no Aegon on the show, so the only person he could join was Daenerys. Why he isn't interacting with the dragons instead of telling bad jokes is another question nobody knows the answer to. 

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13 hours ago, ummester said:

Dinklage is a very overrated actor, IMO and, alongside other lesser actors, such as those playing Greyworm and Missendai, his lack of talent becomes glaringly obvious. I'm pretty sure the OP is being sarcastic with this thread - because I don't think it is possible to call Dinklage a good actor with a straight face.

How is Dinklage a limited actor? Check his scene with Oberyn and see how he emotes sadness, anger, despair and hope with just his eyes and face. No other actor can even come close to it. He has the most range of any actor on the show. People talk about Dillane and Dance but they constantly play the same stoic character. Dinklage has shown happiness, misery, lust, anger, despair, sorrow, being in charge and then being nothing,  and much more,  amazingly well throughout the series. His range is incredible. 

Yeah one of the most celebrated actors in the world is over-rated now

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3 hours ago, Les Météores D said:

It wasn't a pointless filler, poorly handled perhaps. Tyrion is an exiled, friendless, alcoholic (but functional) westerosi who, deep down, longs for home. Like Arya, Dany and Jorah.

 

 

But they have already done a very similar scene(s) this season. Just repetition is pointless

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15 minutes ago, Banjo said:

But they have already done a very similar scene(s) this season. Just repetition is pointless

Well I never said the scene was great or anything, but I think they tried to show that Tyrion was almost successful in breaking the ice with bland&blander, finally after the first and failed attempt! but alas they're no Bronn&Pod. 

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1 hour ago, Banjo said:

How is Dinklage a limited actor? Check his scene with Oberyn and see how he emotes sadness, anger, despair and hope with just his eyes and face. No other actor can even come close to it. He has the most range of any actor on the show. People talk about Dillane and Dance but they constantly play the same stoic character. Dinklage has shown happiness, misery, lust, anger, despair, sorrow, being in charge and then being nothing,  and much more,  amazingly well throughout the series. His range is incredible. 

Yeah one of the most celebrated actors in the world is over-rated now

I said overrated, not limited. Regardless, that dude who played Obyren totally carried that scene you are talking about. Dinklage's 'range' is based on the tone set by the characters supporting him, the music and so on. There is absolutely no way he is in the same kind of league as Dance,

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1 hour ago, Banjo said:

But they have already done a very similar scene(s) this season. Just repetition is pointless

But if we were only shown the time when he tries and fail, it would make no sense when they suddenly like and respect him. If alcohol comes to play a part in Grey Worm and Missandei´s future, it would make no sense to either show them taking it the first time they interact with Tyrion or not showing when he manages to make them drink.

 

People arguing about fillers have no idea how a production this size works and have probably never tried creative work themselves; and the people arguing that the scene being made around the jokes is bad have no sensitivity to character development - it seems to me they just want to see the end of the story, "screw this particular part of the character´s life, we all know what matters is westeros, so anything he´s doing that´s not incredibly badass or that doesn´t advance with the plot that I want is useless".

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9 minutes ago, TheKitttenGuard said:

CGI Budget

Season 6 cost $100M. I will not pretend that I know anything about budget allocation in film making, but that's a lot of money and surely they didn't blow it all on the battle of bastards... 

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I don't know if Dinklage is good actor or a bad one, but I certainly wouldn't call this scene "something out of nothing" unless that "something" stands for "something bad, pointless and stupid that happened already few times in this very season". The scenes between Tyrion, GreyWorm and Missandei are coming at rapid pace to win the award for the worst scenes in GOT. Bad pussy seems almost like a masterpeice compared to this, especially because it was only one short line, not a several minutes long scene that happened for the obvious lack of inspiration for Meereen's plot without Daenerys.

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It is always fascinating to me to compare the comments here which are mostly from book readers to those from show only viewers where based on what I have read actually enjoyed this scene a lot.  I also wouldn't call this scene "filler" as it seemed to be a light hearted moment, a calm before the storm if you will, before the shit hits the fan (the masters besieging the city).

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28 minutes ago, RhaeBee said:

Season 6 cost $100M. I will not pretend that I know anything about budget allocation in film making, but that's a lot of money and surely they didn't blow it all on the battle of bastards... 

Well it is an answer though you may not agree with.

Mythical Creatures are expensive.

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On ‎6‎/‎13‎/‎2016 at 2:20 PM, FoyeTwenty Boston said:

For such a pointless filler scene, I was so charmed by the Tyrion/Grey Worm/Missandei drinking scene in this week

Maybe the scene wasn't so pointless. I mean, we learn in the episode before that drinking a single beer in a brothel will bring manhood back to a castrated theon. Imagine the effect of wine on a castrated Grey Worm. Or is it only ale that makes castrated men regain their manhood?

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8 hours ago, RhaeBee said:

But (thankfully) there's no Aegon on the show, so the only person he could join was Daenerys. Why he isn't interacting with the dragons instead of telling bad jokes is another question nobody knows the answer to. 

maybe there will be a plot move. Tyrion realizes that if a hot but frigid translator and a dickless guard who didn't see an oncoming armada can be coaxed with wine and jokes, so can dragons.

 

Fast forward to next week...Tyrion, rhaegal and visceryan sitting around. Tyrion begins: Three Valyrian Dragonlords walk into a bar......


Then the dragons start telling jokes. 2 dragons are camping in the remnants of the doom of valyria, A bunch of stone men come. One dragon says "can you cure greyskin?" the other dragon says "no, but I can gobble them all up nomnomnomnom"

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5 hours ago, El Guapo said:

It is always fascinating to me to compare the comments here which are mostly from book readers to those from show only viewers where based on what I have read actually enjoyed this scene a lot.  I also wouldn't call this scene "filler" as it seemed to be a light hearted moment, a calm before the storm if you will, before the shit hits the fan (the masters besieging the city).

I mean this episode is the second lowest rated GOT episode 

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