Pod & Sam

[chasing the dragons]

Why are they still in the story? Who lives the longest? Will they ever meet? Are they comic relief or do they play a role in The Wars to Come? Now that Sam has the Valerian Steel Sword, he should appear again.

[Wyman Manderly's Meat Pies]

Pod's basically a non-entity anyway. Just background decor for Brienne scenes. He only spoke so much last episode because of his history with Bronn. 

Sam, probably to either discover something integral in Oldtown, and to bring another Valyrian steel sword to the table. Also, maybe Randyll Tarly might play a role in King's Landing after Cersei goes Mad Queen. 

[SevasTra82]

3 hours ago, Wyman Manderly's Meat Pies said:

Pod's basically a non-entity anyway. Just background decor for Brienne scenes. He only spoke so much last episode because of his history with Bronn. 

Sam, probably to either discover something integral in Oldtown, and to bring another Valyrian steel sword to the table. Also, maybe Randyll Tarly might play a role in King's Landing after Cersei goes Mad Queen. 

I see no purpose in Pod either at the moment, other then what you said.  He's a background piece so Brienne isn't all by herself.

Well, we know Sam in the books is going to Oldtown and will most likely discover something there, but I don't think that's the direction the show is going (because I don't believe Sam stole Heartsbane in the books either).  Sam and that sword will somehow find it's way up North.  I'm just not 100% sure on how they'll do that yet.  We'll probably see a good amount of Sam next season.

[chasing the dragons]

If Sam has a role to play, (has the sword, has on-screen time, etc) then what happens with Gily? Maybe a job in Oldtown's version of Moletown? 

 

More importantly, does Gily's baby have Kingsblood? I know there was a switch in the books but I can't remember if it was in the TV series. If so, they may play a bigger role than expected.

[Meera of Tarth]

4 hours ago, SevasTra82 said:

I see no purpose in Pod either at the moment, other then what you said.  He's a background piece so Brienne isn't all by herself.

Well, we know Sam in the books is going to Oldtown and will most likely discover something there, but I don't think that's the direction the show is going (because I don't believe Sam stole Heartsbane in the books either).  Sam and that sword will somehow find it's way up North.  I'm just not 100% sure on how they'll do that yet.  We'll probably see a good amount of Sam next season.

Sam will go to OldTown in the show, because some "secret scenes" were shot in Girona, IIRC.

[SevasTra82]

2 minutes ago, Meera of Tarth said:

Sam will go to OldTown in the show, because some "secret scenes" were shot in Girona, IIRC.

I'll be curious what is actually there for Sam to do in the show.  Jaqan Hagar is not there.  I don't think they'll introduce Sarella Sand in Oldtown.  Then what will Sam do?  Just randomly uncover old texts about The Others?  What purpose will that serve, considering now Bran is on his way to the Wall and can easily reveal everything to Jon then?

Maybe I'm just missing something or we simply don't have enough information.  But Sam+Oldtown+Heartsbane = confusion to me.

[Meera of Tarth]

12 minutes ago, SevasTra82 said:

I'll be curious what is actually there for Sam to do in the show.  Jaqan Hagar is not there.  I don't think they'll introduce Sarella Sand in Oldtown.  Then what will Sam do?  Just randomly uncover old texts about The Others?  What purpose will that serve, considering now Bran is on his way to the Wall and can easily reveal everything to Jon then?

Maybe I'm just missing something or we simply don't have enough information.  But Sam+Oldtown+Heartsbane = confusion to me.

Yes, it's complicated.

Well, I wouldn't be so sure that there is not Sarella (Tyene) in Oldtown, but my take is that he will end up there to learn and share thoughts on Valyrian Steel or something bigger, for next season.

Bran can reveal things to Jon, but I don't think it's so easily done. Firstly, he has to learn to interpret the visions he has and, if such the cas, learn how to reveal them to who is necessary. And even if he is in contact with Jon, Jon is almost alone, and North. The Others are important for All Westeros, everyone should be prepared.

I'd love him to be in contact with not only Jon, but many other people, especially his siblings, but I think it won't be so easy for him. He has to learn to learn.

[SevasTra82]

9 minutes ago, Meera of Tarth said:

Yes, it's complicated.

Well, I wouldn't be so sure that there is not Sarella (Tyene) in Oldtown, but my take is that he will end up there to learn and share thoughts on Valyrian Steel or something bigger, for next season.

Bran can reveal things to Jon, but I don't think it's so easily done. Firstly, he has to learn to interpret the visions he has and, if such the cas, learn how to reveal them to who is necessary. And even if he is in contact with Jon, Jon is almost alone, and North. The Others are important for All Westeros, everyone should be prepared.

I'd love him to be in contact with not only Jon, but many other people, especially his siblings, but I think it won't be so easy for him. He has to learn to learn.

True about Bran, but at the same time, he already knows that The Children created the White Walkers, so that bit of information he can easily share with Jon.  Bran will most likely end up at the wall, with Jon/Sansa in Winterfell, so them meeting up next season is almost a sure-thing.  But who knows what information Bran will have deciphered at that point.  At the very least he knows the WW's origins, and possibly Jon's origins as well.

I have no doubt that Sam's stay in Oldtown will be very short, because Heartsbane *has* to make it up North fairly quickly, at least by Season 7's end (there would be no point in him stealing it if it didn't serve some sort of purpose in the final battle(s) after all).  With no Glass Candles, Bran's story Arc, Jaqan, etc, I just can't put my finger on what the purpose of Old Town is.  Unless it is, like you said, a fact-gathering mission on Valyrian Steele (or information on how to stop the WW's Necromancy).

But knowing HBO, they'll find a way to worm the Sandsnakes in there somehow 

[Meera of Tarth]

15 minutes ago, SevasTra82 said:

True about Bran, but at the same time, he already knows that The Children created the White Walkers, so that bit of information he can easily share with Jon.  Bran will most likely end up at the wall, with Jon/Sansa in Winterfell, so them meeting up next season is almost a sure-thing.  But who knows what information Bran will have deciphered at that point.  At the very least he knows the WW's origins, and possibly Jon's origins as well.

I have no doubt that Sam's stay in Oldtown will be very short, because Heartsbane *has* to make it up North fairly quickly, at least by Season 7's end (there would be no point in him stealing it if it didn't serve some sort of purpose in the final battle(s) after all).  With no Glass Candles, Bran's story Arc, Jaqan, etc, I just can't put my finger on what the purpose of Old Town is.  Unless it is, like you said, a fact-gathering mission on Valyrian Steele (or information on how to stop the WW's Necromancy).

But knowing HBO, they'll find a way to worm the Sandsnakes in there somehow 

Yes, I'm clueless too! I think he will have a scene with a maester (that's what I heard) but I'm not 100% sure.

[Meera of Tarth]

I've personally been waiting a lot to see Sam in Oldtown, as I love this particular trait of his personality: he being a scholar, so I am really looking forward to watching it. That was my favourite part from his POV, and the funny thing is that I always pictured Girona as the perfect location for OldTown; instead of Braavos or KG.

[Jedi Renee]

Sam is one of the only poeple who knows where bran went also. I wonder if he will ever talk about that

[bfin]

1 Pod is in the show as Brienne's companion. You wouldn't send her out all alone on her quest plus they needed dialogue while she was searching for the Stark girls. He's also comic relief. Why would they have killed him off up to this point? He might die soon but I doubt it. He's one of the few genuine characters so my guess is he'll be there at the end. 

2 I'm guessing Sam is gonna play one of the most important roles on the tv show. He will discover a way of forging more Valyrian steel swords/making dragonglass/finding a way to defeat the WW. They wouldn't have established this dude as the Hero's best friend from jump street and on top of that shove the fact that he's smart and loves to read books if he didn't have a major purpose. 

3 Is it Sunday yet??? Jesus

[aryagonnakill#2]

I wouldn't think Sam could just steal Heartsbane and not have his father hunt him down in Oldtown, but then again I wouldn't have thought Arya could survive her wounds.  I don't see how Sam could just ship the sword to the wall though, he could never trust it to get there.  The only realistic thing for him to do is head straight back and apologize for not becoming a maester and offering the sword as recompense.

[Always Winter]

I can't really see Sam just rummaging through scrolls for the little time he's allotted in the season finale as a wrap up to his arc. It's an odd place to stop and would kind of be a momentum killer. My guess is he'll cross paths with some other faction while being pursued by his father (Euron's new fleet, Sand Snakes)  

[Jaime4Brienne]

Poor Podrick is being unfairly maligned! In the books (and the show too if I remember correctly) he saves Tyrion's life during the battle of the blackwater. He's been training with Brienne since then. I think he could be really useful in a battle and isn't just there as her companion/decoration. 

[RhaenysBee]

Because they are simple, genuine, good hearted, honest and adorable people. Not everybody is a fierce fighter or a spineless schemer. There are good people in the world too. 

Other than that, Sam is a source. He found the dragonglass, he found out about a way to kill a walkers, he knows a lot about the Wall and the abandoned castles, he will probably get even more information when he is in Oldtown. He also fits into the terrible fathers and old order vs us and new order agenda. 

Pod is just a loyal companion, a necessary sidekick, comic relief. I hope he will reunite with Tyrion in the end. And he is new generation too. 

[TickTak7]

I always thought that the "this is how you beat the White Walkers!" reveal would come from Sam. 

He'd be the unsung hero, similar to how Samwise Gamgee was the unsung hero in Lord of the Rings. 

We know GRRM was influenced by Tolkien. 

Pod, who knows. They will keep him around until they get a powerful death moment with him. 

[UnViserion]

Sam will discover something pivotal and possibly gain the approval and appologies of his father. 

Pod will probably sacrifice himself in a moment of epic glory for the betterment of all the living 

[LyannaKuku]

Sam can disappear like gendry for all i care. Pod might become a great warrior if he keeps training with brienne and may have an important role in the future

[Jedi Renee]

On 21/06/2016 at 5:31 PM, LyannaKuku said:

Sam can disappear like gendry for all i care. Pod might become a great warrior if he keeps training with brienne and may have an important role in the future

Sam is going to play a part in figuring out how to end the coming war, learn at the citadel etc. He will be around for a while. He seems alot more important then pod. Pod is great tho :^)