Nakraal Posted June 26, 2016 Author Share Posted June 26, 2016 Jon might become the heir to the IT, no problem there. But I quoted something in the lines "when he will be aware he is the heir". He isn't the heir and can't beand thats a fact. In the same manner that Danny also is not the heir. Maybe at some point the laws of inheritance will be reintroduced, or a far reached scenario will have Rhaegar actually marrying Lyanna before he was slain (the Targs allowed dual marriage I think) making him the next in the line but until that time he is not the heir. In any case imho I can't see Jon becoming the King. His story, when concluded, I believe will be that of the tragic hero more or less. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boodofmyblood Posted June 26, 2016 Share Posted June 26, 2016 8 minutes ago, Nakraal said: In any case imho I can't see Jon becoming the King. His story, when concluded, I believe will be that of the tragic hero more or less. I think the tragic hero of this tale is Jaime, not Jon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mourneblade Posted June 26, 2016 Share Posted June 26, 2016 9 minutes ago, Nakraal said: Jon might become the heir to the IT, no problem there. But I quoted something in the lines "when he will be aware he is the heir". He isn't the heir and can't beand thats a fact. In the same manner that Danny also is not the heir. Maybe at some point the laws of inheritance will be reintroduced, or a far reached scenario will have Rhaegar actually marrying Lyanna before he was slain (the Targs allowed dual marriage I think) making him the next in the line but until that time he is not the heir. In any case imho I can't see Jon becoming the King. His story, when concluded, I believe will be that of the tragic hero more or less. IF Lyanna and Rhaegar were legally married he is the Heir to the Iron Throne. King's Guard do not guard bastards with their life. Their duty was to Viserion, once the King was dead, IF John was illegitimate. People seem to always forget this or ignore this lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrypticWeirwood Posted June 26, 2016 Share Posted June 26, 2016 22 minutes ago, Nakraal said: In any case imho I can't see Jon becoming the King. His story, when concluded, I believe will be that of the tragic hero more or less. If you don’t want to see Jon become king, I suggest you not watch tonight’s episode. :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mourneblade Posted June 26, 2016 Share Posted June 26, 2016 17 minutes ago, CrypticWeirwood said: If you don’t want to see Jon become king, I suggest you not watch tonight’s episode. :-) The big thing though is that both can be right, Jon could become King and still be the tragic hero. Whats important is the Magic in Kings blood, and Targaryan Blood and Both Jon and Danny have that, and that will be whats needed to defeat the Night's King. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deadlines? What Deadlines? Posted June 27, 2016 Share Posted June 27, 2016 She sure did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chandl34 Posted June 27, 2016 Share Posted June 27, 2016 She didn't burn the whole city down though. That's what I was expecting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lockjaw of House Boltagon Posted June 27, 2016 Share Posted June 27, 2016 I would've cheered to the heavens if only Septon Bernie and Unella and Lancel and the other members of the Westboro Baptist church had burned, but my heart broke for Marg, Loras and Pure Cinnamon Roll Mace. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Ice Wolf of Loki Posted June 27, 2016 Share Posted June 27, 2016 15 minutes ago, chandl34 said: She didn't burn the whole city down though. That's what I was expecting. She still killed Tommen though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkerStar Posted June 27, 2016 Share Posted June 27, 2016 40 minutes ago, Lyin' Ned said: I would've cheered to the heavens if only Septon Bernie and Unella and Lancel and the other members of the Westboro Baptist church had burned, but my heart broke for Marg, Loras and Pure Cinnamon Roll Mace. Damn and she got Uncle Kevan too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lockjaw of House Boltagon Posted June 27, 2016 Share Posted June 27, 2016 22 minutes ago, DarkerStar said: Damn and she got Uncle Kevan too. I forgot about Kevan. I don't care about that flop tho. Poor Marg! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam141414 Posted June 27, 2016 Share Posted June 27, 2016 She was almost indifferent to Tommen, and didnt even flinch when seeing his body (which would have been messed up). Compare to her breakdown when Joffrey was killed, and sadness when Mycella was killed. I thought when Tommen pretty much isolated her she may start to resent him. Tommen's body wasnt even cold and she was crowning herself Queen and ruler. Maybe she might marry Jamie now. Everyone knows about their relationship, and 6 out of 7 kingdoms will oppose her anyway (the other being The Kingdom of the Rock of which Jamie is lord of). Jamie and Cersei should marry, and start their own 'pure blood' dynasty like the Targaryens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Masha Posted June 27, 2016 Share Posted June 27, 2016 Not the way Jaime looked at her. He stared daggers at her from the balcony. I actually thought he would stab her but I am thinking its more of Arya's thing now she still has to kill green eyes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkerStar Posted June 27, 2016 Share Posted June 27, 2016 2 minutes ago, Adam141414 said: She was almost indifferent to Tommen, and didnt even flinch when seeing his body (which would have been messed up). Compare to her breakdown when Joffrey was killed, and sadness when Mycella was killed. I thought when Tommen pretty much isolated her she may start to resent him. Tommen's body wasnt even cold and she was crowning herself Queen and ruler. Maybe she might marry Jamie now. Everyone knows about their relationship, and 6 out of 7 kingdoms will oppose her anyway (the other being The Kingdom of the Rock of which Jamie is lord of). Jamie and Cersei should marry, and start their own 'pure blood' dynasty like the Targaryens. That would be a good idea but I expect Jaime to do a little Queenslaying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Lannister Posted June 27, 2016 Share Posted June 27, 2016 2 minutes ago, DarkerStar said: That would be a good idea but I expect Jaime to do a little Queenslaying. Yeah there was no fondness, pride or desire in that look they exchanged at the end. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam141414 Posted June 27, 2016 Share Posted June 27, 2016 8 minutes ago, Masha said: Not the way Jaime looked at her. He stared daggers at her from the balcony. I actually thought he would stab her but I am thinking its more of Arya's thing now she still has to kill green eyes. He must know Cersei pretty much turned the Tyrell's from fractured ally of convenience, to outright enemy. Poor Lannisters could now barely even count of House Frey for support. Cersei irrational and short sighted thinking will come back to haunt her. Dany her coming for her seat. The North remembers. And the Martell's & Tyrells are united seeking revenge against House Lannister. Cersei and Jamie are in the sh.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gman Posted June 27, 2016 Share Posted June 27, 2016 19 minutes ago, DarkerStar said: That would be a good idea but I expect Jaime to do a little Queenslaying. I see what you did there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nakraal Posted June 27, 2016 Author Share Posted June 27, 2016 7 hours ago, CrypticWeirwood said: If you don’t want to see Jon become king, I suggest you not watch tonight’s episode. :-) I think its established that by King we mean King of the Seven kingdoms, not of the North. And I never said he won't become King of the Seven Kingdoms, just that he has no claim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrypticWeirwood Posted June 27, 2016 Share Posted June 27, 2016 9 minutes ago, Nakraal said: I think its established that by King we mean King of the Seven kingdoms, not of the North. And I never said he won't become King of the Seven Kingdoms, just that he has no claim FJon has an excellent claim: he’s Rhaegar’s son. That’s as good as it gets, direct male line. They’ll see no reason to give the crown to a woman, let alone a barren one. They’ve never done that before. What would be the point? That would guarantee that the Targaryen line would end. They won’t do that. I just see no reason for FJon to pursue the crown that goes with the Iron Throne. He won’t give a damn, nor should he. It won’t matter. FJon has more important things to do, just as his cousin Bran does and his aunt Dany and uncle Tyrion do. His other cousins are less important, but they also have their rôles in the wars to come. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HellasLEAF Posted June 27, 2016 Share Posted June 27, 2016 I did not think this this character was capable of that. When she describes doing things because she likes it. Her ability to feel nothing. Cersei truly is pure evil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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