Grizzly Mormont Posted June 20, 2016 Share Posted June 20, 2016 The guy even says in the after episode discussion that they wanted to make a real medieval battle... Then he says they took the inspiration from an ancient Roman battle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kuf Posted June 20, 2016 Share Posted June 20, 2016 6 seasons in,and Dany still switches between Mad King V2 to compassionate leader in the span of a single pep talk.But hey,she has learned to mount a creatine abusing Drogon,so it's fine. Yeah,fuck male oppression.Let's shake on it.Only if it's OK with the male dwarf standing behind me,of course.You know,the one who I should've catapulted out of Meeren by now for his incompetence. Spare us,commander of an army of lowborns,who is also lowborn himself!Kill that filthy lowborn instead! <-Great plead for mercy.Bravo. It was pretty comedic when Sans..eer Sandra delivered her cookie cutter threats to Ramsay and then rode off with no one following her.I almost expected Ramsay to whisper "what a bitch",and the Stark men to nod in silent agreement. Imagine if Rickon decided to make a mockery out of Ramsay's game-by running backwards,so that he can always see the arrows coming.Pretty disheartening to see your precious hostage escape-running BACKWARDS of all things. The shaky cam didn't allow you to see him,but Jon had Ghost beside him all along-he was the one holding an arrow-proof umbrella over Jon's head through the entire first half of the battle. There is NO defending of what Sans...eer Sandra did,and the magically appearing wall of dead Stark men would surely agree with me.Thanks for dying completely preventable deaths for my claim to the North,losers!The final scene should be interpreted as a clear parallel to Ramsay killing Roose:A piece of shit being killed by a worse piece of shit. Surely,the arrow that finished Wun Wun off could be put to better use-by piercing Jon's oblivious skull for example? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Scabbard Of the Morning Posted June 20, 2016 Share Posted June 20, 2016 1 minute ago, Grizzly Mormont said: The guy even says in the after episode discussion that they wanted to make a real medieval battle... Then he says they took the inspiration from an ancient Roman battle. Probably because they thought the Romans were medieval. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forlong the Fat Posted June 20, 2016 Share Posted June 20, 2016 4 minutes ago, Grizzly Mormont said: The guy even says in the after episode discussion that they wanted to make a real medieval battle... Then he says they took the inspiration from an ancient Roman battle. Google: schiltron Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grizzly Mormont Posted June 20, 2016 Share Posted June 20, 2016 2 minutes ago, The Scabbard Of the Morning said: Probably because they thought the Romans were medieval. those guys are well educated. they expect the audience to not know the difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Scabbard Of the Morning Posted June 20, 2016 Share Posted June 20, 2016 Honestly I still don't understand why Rickon didn't try to kill Ramsay after he cut him loose. He looked almost as tall as Ramsay and surely he'd rather go down fighting rather than be a shooting target. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Centrist Simon Steele Posted June 20, 2016 Share Posted June 20, 2016 I thought it was strange the Northern fighters were suddenly shield wall fighters too. I remember a book about King Arthur called the Winter King (Dark Ages battles for sure) where the rough clansmen fought in shield walls, but this was due to remnants of the Roman Empire having once held influence over England. I don't remember the North having a Rome like legionnaire military holding outposts and control over the North in the Martin's history, but maybe I missed it? I also thought it was odd that Dany was pissed at Tyrion at first, like when General Zod was going to kill Lex Luthor in Superman II, and Lex was all like, "don't kill me, I can give you Superman!" But Tyrion didn't do that. He was just stumbling all over himself, then the next time we see Dany and Tyrion they're all like smiling pals in front of the Iron Borne? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I am a Dragon Posted June 20, 2016 Share Posted June 20, 2016 Just now, Grizzly Mormont said: those guys are well educated. they expect the audience to not know the difference. BA in Creative Writing from Trinity College = well off, not well educated Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forlong the Fat Posted June 20, 2016 Share Posted June 20, 2016 1 minute ago, The Scabbard Of the Morning said: Honestly I still don't understand why Rickon didn't try to kill Ramsay after he cut him loose. He looked almost as tall as Ramsay and surely he'd rather go down fighting rather than be a shooting target. I agree with this. I was hoping Rickon would grab for his knife or sword and make a fight of it. Would have been a more satistsfying way for him to die. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Centrist Simon Steele Posted June 20, 2016 Share Posted June 20, 2016 3 minutes ago, Forlong the Fat said: Google: schiltron Google: GTFO of here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Florina Laufeyson Posted June 20, 2016 Share Posted June 20, 2016 Quote 6 seasons in,and Dany still switches between Mad King V2 to compassionate leader in the span of a single pep talk.But hey,she has learned to mount a creatine abusing Drogon,so it's fine. 2 Yo, do i need to remind you that this is kinda how Dany is around the time ADWD ends? She waffles between "i need to do whats right" and sounding like Viserys a lot in the books. 24 minutes ago, LulaMae Barnes said: Oh....I have been ranting about the whole Sansa issue and the Meereen debacle for the last 4 hours - but I forgot to complain about the following: TYRION TELLING the CHILDLIKE EMPRESS (with the love for burning people) ABOUT WHY JAIME KILLED THE MAD KING - you know, the plan to burn down all of Kings Landing with wildfire.... How does he know? I have read (and listened to) the books several times now - and I always understood that Jaime has never told his story to anyone before confessing it all to Brienne in Harrenhal. Even in the show there was no mention of Tyrion or anyone else knowing the truth about his rather heroic (albeit impetuous) act. I know it is just a small thing - but it bothers and annoys me. I actually was like "yo" about that too. I dont remember him telling Tyrion this. I thought he might have but i may have misremembered. How did Tyrion know that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stannistician Posted June 20, 2016 Share Posted June 20, 2016 2 minutes ago, Simon Steele said: Google: GTFO of here. lmao Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forlong the Fat Posted June 20, 2016 Share Posted June 20, 2016 2 minutes ago, Simon Steele said: Google: GTFO of here. "and with their shields closely locked in front of them, they formed an impenetrable phalanx." Trokelowe, describing the battle of Bannockburn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grizzly Mormont Posted June 20, 2016 Share Posted June 20, 2016 3 minutes ago, I am a Dragon said: BA in Creative Writing from Trinity College = well off, not well educated Lol. Touche. But still, educated enough to know that pre-empire Rome was well before anything considered medieval. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grizzly Mormont Posted June 20, 2016 Share Posted June 20, 2016 11 minutes ago, Forlong the Fat said: Google: schiltron interesting, but he says they took the inspiration from the battle of Canae. Pike formations aren't unique to ancient warfare, but phalanx formation, tower shield-walls with super long spears are specifically Macedonian. Also, the Bolton helmets were 16th century spanish. Just a weird mash up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Scabbard Of the Morning Posted June 20, 2016 Share Posted June 20, 2016 5 minutes ago, Grizzly Mormont said: Lol. Touche. But still, educated enough to know that pre-empire Rome was well before anything considered medieval. Evidently not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nami Posted June 20, 2016 Share Posted June 20, 2016 18 minutes ago, Darkstream said: A mountain of dead bodies, WTF? Can you imagine if they did the Battle of the Trident? The mountain of bodies was too much Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ser Patrick Posted June 20, 2016 Share Posted June 20, 2016 I can't believe Stannis was only a mornings march away from Winterfell when he sacrificed Shireen. The North must be a small place in the show considering Stannis's map showed him on Long Lake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darkstream Posted June 20, 2016 Share Posted June 20, 2016 3 hours ago, Nami said: Can you imagine if they did the Battle of the Trident? The mountain of bodies was too much I imagine the Trident would have been completely dammed up. What's really fucked up is that this wasn't just an oversight, they actually had to go out of their way to do this. I'm wondering, with all the work it must have taken the crew to make this pile of bodies for the filming of the scene, shouldn't it have dawned on someone that this wouldn't happen naturally throughout the course of a battle. But of course, with d$d, logic and realism is abhorred if it interferes with the edgy and disturbing visuals that they want to manipulate their audience with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stannistician Posted June 20, 2016 Share Posted June 20, 2016 47 minutes ago, Forlong the Fat said: As Rodrik mentioned, one possibility is that they came by sea. They could land in White Harbor fand would not cross the land of anyone known to be loyal to Bolton. In fact, we have reason to believe Lord Too Fat to Sit a Horse may yet appear . . . Except that earlier this season LF told Sansa that the Vale army was at Moat Calin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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