Ice Spider Posted October 30, 2016 Share Posted October 30, 2016 The sailor Quithe is painting is not traveling through the smoking sea, do you ever pay attention? He is only traveling close to valyria's shoreline.-- UMM evidence?? Again, no evidence from you. I admit, this particular scene is only sugestive and cannot be used as definitive evidence. But I wont make your mistake of just assuming something that then stating it as fact as you have just done here. We don't know if he is going through the smoking sea or not. Also Quithe is not a sailor, LOL. Do you even pay attention to the show or the books. Look her up. Can you even read?? The Sailor Quiathe is painting is what I said. Try harder, please? Quote If the time in the 18th century was shorter as you propose, that wouldn't have used the word still in the sentence. And they wouldn't have had the examples of the 15th-16th century I showed previously in that link. You can't just say then, you assume it means something else. Thats utterly stupid Again, you choose to use the time it took one ship to travel under perfect conditions and then extrapolate that to think that an armada of 300+ ships all could keep that pace? Incredible. Lmao....more fail. . Quote 1. You said no one survived sailing the smoking sea, - you were not right because tyrion and Jorah sailed it and survived. In the books Euron also sailed the smoking sea and survived. So this statement is technically not true. Euron claims to have sailed the smoking sea, It is a point that is disputed even in the book itself. Again-try harder! While Tyrion and Jorah did cross the smoking sea, they are the first that are know to have done such, and it almost cost Jorah his life. Piloting a small shipping vessel through the smoking sea does not equate to it being safe to lead an armada on the same path. It's painfully obvious that you have absolutely no clue on sea travel, rather you spend hours googling for a few exceptions to the rule to try to prove your point. It would be suicidal and just plain stupid for Dany to suggest going through a dangerous shortcut with 350 ships, when they have no idea how deep the area is. sunken landmasses of a previously mountainous area are going to be fraught with dangerous hidden obstacles that could do serious damage to any number of the ships in the armada, and then who knows when the lethal gasses might pose a problem. You also have the fact that you would need 300+ captains willing to make that shortcut (again, not going to happen). And last but not least, I am quite sure Tyrion would strongly advise against it, having witnessed what happened to Jorah when they did make that trip. Again-try harder. 4. You said Westeros must be at least 2 months away from Mereen by sail. Then provided on evidence to support this. I provided a map showing it to be 2400-2600 miles if you go threw the smoking sea which translates to optimally 12-16 days sail. If you want to go around Valyria, its probably another few days but I have to check. Nowhere near the 2 months you propose. But you ignore this point. It's 3600 miles sail from Meereen to Sunspear, proven by a map you provided. End of story. There is no shortcut through the smoking sea, this is stupidity (which is why you keep arguing for it). It's a 300+ ship Armada, not a lightly loaded single super sail ship, sailing under ideal conditions. 5. You said that ships in Danys fleet carry 400-600 people tops. Well we looked at a scene which showed her fleet and those ships are WAAAY too small to even consider that many people. But again, it was ignored. More lies from you. I never said Dany's ships carried 400-600 people. What I did say is that there were slave ships that did carry that many people, brought up the fact the the bulk of Dany's fleet was made up of slave ships, and as such would not be surprising that Dany's ships could carry much more that the cargo you are using in your off the wall speculations. Show me were I said Dany's ships could carry 600 people? I did say if the journey was as short as you first claimed (which I have proven it isn't) then, and only then, could the ships capacity be increased two fold. Once again I will connect the dots for you, the journey is not a few days (your first post), not five days(your next off the wall post) and not a few weeks (again another post from you). It is over a month long at least, most likely two months, and for that reason, Dany's ships cannot be loaded over capacity. Are you really that thick? 6. You kept pointing out I said it was 5 days to travel. But failed to realise I said, across the narrow sea. Which is true, it is only a few days sail across the narrow sea since it is only a few hundred miles off the shores of westeros to say, Pentos on the other side of the sea. Yes, you did say across the narrow sea, I will give you that. Let me give you a lesson on context. You not only said it took five days to cross the narrow sea, you then extrapolated that into how long (using this same five days) it would take for Dany to move her forces to Westeros. Hey, guess what? Dany's forces are not on the East bank of the narrow sea, they are in Meereen. This was a known fact. Given the context of your post, either you were totally clueless as to where Dany forces set sail from, or, more likely, you didn't have a clue where on the map Meereen was when you first made your post. Good try though! Your really grasping at straws here, it's actually quite funny! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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