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On June 24, 2016 at 4:50 AM, permaximum said:

I said it before early in the season and I say it again, Jon is a capable fighter, a bad commander and even worse leader. He lost every battle but one. He never won a war. Because of his lack of vision, imagination, politics, human motives and leadership skills along with his slow mind he even got himself killed. He never saw it coming.

Jon is brave, determined, honorable and he's the most good hearted main character but those don't make him a great leader, a commander or a fighter. He can be classified as a skilled fighter but that's all. A drunk Karl Tanner toyed with him while blubbering throughout the whole fight.

I really like Jon, but he would make a very bad ruler. His story should be about defending the lines against White Walkers in the North. He will not and should not become a King. Robb was more of a charismatic smart leader with a good thinking mind but even that was not enough for him to survive. In the case of Jon, odds are even worse.

Back to the topic, Littlefinger may use Jon as a puppet exactly because of the things I mentioned and reveal his parentage but Jon will have too much effect on the common people because of him being Rheagar's son and his supernatural resurrection. It would be risky even for Littlefinger to follow that road and overcome Jon's starting legend.

 

 

So, you're saying Jon would be sorted into Gryffindor?

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On 6/24/2016 at 3:57 AM, permaximum said:

As for Littlefinger, it's really hard to predict what he'll do after what he did in season 5. He'll want to marry Sansa and she will accept the proposal, they will travel south to gather the remaining Tully and Riverlands forces to add into the mix of the Vale and the North armies.

I cannot see Sansa leaving Winterfell AT ALL for the time being.  This woman has been to hell and back. She is back at home, and she is safe there.  Her brother will protect her.  Sansa is not stupid, however, so if LF wants her, the smart answer is -- I need some time.  You take your troops and go on home and let me think about it. By the way, thank you.  

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Littlefinger looked grim when Jon was declared KitN. He looks all out of options and for the first time appears futile to manipulate things to his advantage

His one saving grace might be now Cersei sits on the Iron Throne, as he did after all revel the Bolton's 'treachery' when the Boltons married Ramsey to Sansa, then having promised to Cersei to route the Boltons with the Knights of the Vale. Although if he aligns himself alongside Cersei, he could never cross back again. LF has after all switched allegiance between the North and South multiple times. 

He could complicate things however, by revealing Jon parentage (which he knows given by the look he gave Sansa in the cript when Sansa told the story of her aunt raped by Rheagar). 

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4 minutes ago, Adam141414 said:

Littlefinger looked grim when Jon was declared KitN. He looks all out of options and for the first time appears futile to manipulate things to his advantage

His one saving grace might be now Cersei sits on the Iron Throne, as he did after all revel the Bolton's 'treachery' when the Boltons married Ramsey to Sansa, then having promised to Cersei to route the Boltons with the Knights of the Vale. Although if he aligns himself alongside Cersei, he could never cross back again. LF has after all switched allegiance between the North and South multiple times. 

He could complicate things however, by revealing Jon parentage (which he knows given by the look he gave Sansa in the cript when Sansa told the story of her aunt raped by Rheagar). 

Was that LF looking grim, or LF looking at Sansa saying " I told you so"

 

With how much sansa has flip flopped around this season i would not be surprised if she turns on Jon next season,

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2 minutes ago, Xarkar said:

Was that LF looking grim, or LF looking at Sansa saying " I told you so"

 

With how much sansa has flip flopped around this season i would not be surprised if she turns on Jon next season,

But they had a private conversation in the woods. And she rebuffed him. Deals in secrecy are made off screen. 

Littlefinger has been hung out to dry. 

Sansa may even threaten to out him as Lysa's killer. 

I think he ride sense his power slipping and ride South and seek solace alongside Cersei. 

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