Slaysman Posted September 14, 2016 Share Posted September 14, 2016 On 6/24/2016 at 8:36 PM, Smoke317 said: So because Sansa knew Ramsey for a few weeks, she's smart enough to spot deception and play the game??? I think not. She's never been smart or outmaneuvered anyone but Jon I guess... Maybe given more time this could happen but Sansa has been a pawn to everyone she's encountered. At least Jon was able to infiltrate the wildlings. Come up with the raid on Crasters to search for Bran. Lead the defense of the wall. Seek and bring into the realm the wildlings from Hardhome. Execute Slynt to solidify his command. Despite all of this the show runners have chosen to dumb Jon down since all of that. They made it Sam's idea to go become a Maester when it was Jon who came up with the idea to save Sam, Aemon, & Mance's baby from being burned in the books. They made him passionless when rallying the North and the wildlings. Yet his speech in the books was legendary. Then made him reckless in the battle and Ramsey and Sansa the smart ones. Now everyone on here and other sites are saying how dumb Jon is/was and how smart Sansa is... It just makes no sense if these are the same characters we've been following for the last 6 years. I truly hope they are going somewhere with this plot, as in Sansa becoming power hungry and next season we have Sansa as LSH or her scheming for power. It'll be nice to have some of the political intrigue from KL in the North before the walkers come. If this plot was all just a bone thrown to Sansa fans for her rape last year and it's gonna be brushed under the rug next week, I think it was all bullshit. If so, they could have had her tell Jon of the Vale army and had Jon knowingly push the battle to get Ramsey to commit his cavalry & infantry like he did, then have Sansa swoop in for the finish. This way they both look smart and United. That would have been a great opportunity to get more fans to like Sansa but the way they've played it, she's still got her core fans but the majority are still turned off by her character. I completely agree with you on this. Of course Sansa should have told Jon about the Knights of the Vale from the get go. Going to the other Houses and able to claim that kind of support was already with you would have made those meetings with the northern lords more productive. As for his speeches, I think the one he gave in Hardhome to the wildlings was the most epic in the series. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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