princess_snow Posted June 27, 2016 Share Posted June 27, 2016 12 minutes ago, Dorian Martell said: That would make Aegon with a hard "G." "Egg-on" if you will. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnStormWeaver Posted June 27, 2016 Share Posted June 27, 2016 wouldn't something like Visenyar make more sense given the motif of Rhaegar naming his kids after the 3 dragonriders that conquered Westeros, Aegon, Rhaenys, and Visenya ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WinterPool Stark Posted June 27, 2016 Share Posted June 27, 2016 1 hour ago, Lord Lannister said: Aejon would be tacky as all hell. Hahahaa! Aejon is brilliant Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iron Mother Posted June 27, 2016 Share Posted June 27, 2016 44 minutes ago, Dorian Martell said: She whispered: "Eh-Jon" this is good too... closer to what i meant perhaps Eh-Zhn, frack i don't speak FRENCH that is the sound I want to make.... or Mandarin also Eh-Shin but pronounced as Jacque Cousteau, Zsa Zsa Gábor or Ay-Zsan i won't sleep tonight now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iron Mother Posted June 27, 2016 Share Posted June 27, 2016 1 hour ago, jandslegate said: Exactly. I don't see Martin going to all this trouble about Jon's parentage just to put him right back in the bastard seats at court. I feel confident we'll find out they were married and I think that is probably the 'proof' waiting to be found in the crypt. I think Westeros has gone beyond formalities like this. "The mob" (regular people) proclaimed a bastard a King of the North.... and what happens when 2 high houses cohort and produce offspring? It isn't the same as banging the tavern wench. A Targaryen + Stark offfspring............... especially when NEITHER house is believed to legitimately exist anymore? It's pretty powerful Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Smuggler Posted June 27, 2016 Share Posted June 27, 2016 Aejon Starkaryen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jandslegate Posted June 27, 2016 Share Posted June 27, 2016 20 minutes ago, Iron Mother said: I think Westeros has gone beyond formalities like this. "The mob" (regular people) proclaimed a bastard a King of the North.... and what happens when 2 high houses cohort and produce offspring? It isn't the same as banging the tavern wench. A Targaryen + Stark offfspring............... especially when NEITHER house is believed to legitimately exist anymore? It's pretty powerful I get that. I just think, narratively, if they're going to do anything with Jon being the Son(g) of Ice and Fire, be it a claim to the throne, the 'chosen one' etc, then they're going to go all out and make it bulletproof - and will have to have some sort of proof. It's one thing for the reader/viewer to get the proof but there has to be something to prove it to the other characters. Otherwise, why should Dany accept the information, for example? I mean, yes, the North is beyond the formalities now, clearly but the other Westerosi houses are pretty big sticklers for these formalities. However, what's really crucial, is Team Dany, her allies included. They've all thrown in with Fire and Blood. Jon and the new North poses a reasonable conundrum. Without some sort of tangible proof the possibility of the two sides clashing, arguably, makes sense. However, we have Theon who helped Sansa and Tyrion who had a few 'bro' moments with Jon early on in the story. Both possibly serve as bridges for the Starks and Dany. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iron Mother Posted June 27, 2016 Share Posted June 27, 2016 6 minutes ago, jandslegate said: I get that. I just think, narratively, if they're going to do anything with Jon being the Son(g) of Ice and Fire, be it a claim to the throne, the 'chosen one' etc, then they're going to go all out and make it bulletproof - and will have to have some sort of proof. It's one thing for the reader/viewer to get the proof but there has to be something to prove it to the other characters. Otherwise, why should Dany accept the information, for example. I mean, yes, the North is beyond the formalities now, clearly but the other Westerosi houses are pretty big sticklers for these formalities. However, what's really crucial is Team Dany, her allies included. They've all thrown in with Fire and Blood. Jon and the new North poses a reasonable conundrum. Without some sort of tangible proof the possibility of the two sides clashing, arguably, makes sense. However, we have Theon who helped Sansa and Tyrion who had a few 'bro' moments with Jon early on in the story. Both possibly serve as bridges for the Starks and Dany. I can see what you mean........... the revelation that Jon is Dany's nephew will have strong dynamic. I would be shocked if VARYS doesn't already know this! I can see where it becomes know to Dany and Varys is like "my queen, it is true. I could not expect you to believe me until you knew for yourself". I think LF knows it also but HE doesn't WANT it come out! Things have changed for me now that it's revealed what LF wants. To let slip Jon is maybe the most powerful "name" in Westeros PLUS now a chosen Lord Commander of the people, he will never get near the throne in that situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jandslegate Posted June 27, 2016 Share Posted June 27, 2016 Just now, Iron Mother said: I can see what you mean........... the revelation that Jon is Dany's nephew will have strong dynamic. I would be shocked if VARYS doesn't already know this! I can see where it becomes know to Dany and Varys is like "my queen, it is true. I could not expect you to believe me until you knew for yourself". I think LF knows it also but HE doesn't WANT it come out! Things have changed for me now that it's revealed what LF wants. To let slip Jon is maybe the most powerful "name" in Westeros PLUS now a chosen Lord Commander of the people, he will never get near the throne in that situation. Yeah and to be honest, I personally would prefer there isn't a drawn out conflict between Jon and Dany. I just want them to get to fighting Ice monsters. Littlefinger has me leery too. I'm just tired of his 'long-game' schemes. I get that there needs to be some drama but I just don't want it taking up a ton of the precious few episodes left. It would be my ideal conclusion for LF to see him executed in the Godswood for his part in Ned's betrayal. I'm hoping the Hound makes it to them and just straight up narcs him out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laughing Storm Reborn Posted June 27, 2016 Share Posted June 27, 2016 His name is "Aeson of idiot 1&2" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TyMo Posted June 27, 2016 Share Posted June 27, 2016 I think she said Aerys. Rhaegar names his son Aerys to remove the blight put on the name by his father. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Asvpxkvng Posted June 27, 2016 Share Posted June 27, 2016 2 hours ago, Lord Lannister said: Aejon would be tacky as all hell. 2 hours ago, Sir Matthis Light said: Please don't make this into a thing. Aejon just sounds horrible. Thank god it's not just me. The ugliest damn name. Wait wait wait wait wait oh my god oh my god oh my god guys I just figured out what she said with that A sound. "His name is....Azor Ahai" Lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Matthis Light Posted June 27, 2016 Share Posted June 27, 2016 6 minutes ago, Asvpxkvng said: Thank god it's not just me. The ugliest damn name. Preach!!! lmao. But seriously I'm starting to think she named him Azor. The way she moves her lips definitely a "A" in there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Asvpxkvng Posted June 27, 2016 Share Posted June 27, 2016 Just now, Sir Matthis Light said: Preach!!! lmao. But seriously I'm starting to think she named him Azor. The way she moves her lips definitely a "A" in there Omg I just made the edit and read your post. Oh god I'm dying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winter's Breath Posted June 27, 2016 Share Posted June 27, 2016 It would be cool if Jon was named after Jaehaerys the conciliator, the masterful ruler which this essay details. (basically, Jaehaerys disarmed the faith, built the roads like the kingsroad, legitimized the night's watch, and brought 40 years of peace and unification to Westeros after inheriting at the age of 15 a realm falling apart by the mismanagement of Maegor the Cruel) https://warsandpoliticsoficeandfire.wordpress.com/2014/06/25/the-genius-of-the-old-king-an-examination-of-jaehaerys-i/ Jon's song is the union, the conciliation, of ice and fire. While I don't think this is truly his name, it would be cool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iron Mother Posted June 27, 2016 Share Posted June 27, 2016 59 minutes ago, Asvpxkvng said: Thank god it's not just me. The ugliest damn name. come on now.... we went through phonetic pronunciations of many variations............................ there are some good possibilities. Aszahn, it's a bit exotic. I'm getting angry they left THAT in a secret for next season...... it's not even that important. I have to think what would cause Ned to shorten it to plain "Jon". (phonetic) "Aszahn" = A-Jon. Say the first one with a French accent and the second one in English. Like how they pronounce Jean of Arc. I can't communicate the sound of that..... English would say "Jeen" of Arc. https://translate.google.com/?hl=en&q=ple#es/fr/y jean click the LISTEN button to hear it spoken aloud Aszahn Targaryen. For sure I think it means they were married. From every clue of Lyanna, she would have named him after a Stark kin if it was just an affair. Sansa married Tyrion in light of the 7.... and Ramsey under the Godswood. This would have been the same thing. Lyanna is of the North, they would have been married at a Godswood. Even if Rhaegar was married to Elia Martell in the 7. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grillmeister Posted June 27, 2016 Share Posted June 27, 2016 Azor. From Rhaegar's scrolls. Azor Ahai. The prince that was promised. Jon is just Ned's cover name for him, named after his own and Robert's second father. Robert would suspect nothing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Asvpxkvng Posted June 27, 2016 Share Posted June 27, 2016 18 minutes ago, Iron Mother said: come on now.... we went through phonetic pronunciations of many variations............................ there are some good possibilities. Aszahn, it's a bit exotic. I'm getting angry they left THAT in a secret for next season...... it's not even that important. I have to think what would cause Ned to shorten it to plain "Jon". (phonetic) "Aszahn" = A-Jon. Say the first one with a French accent and the second one in English. Like how they pronounce Jean of Arc. I can't communicate the sound of that..... English would say "Jeen" of Arc. https://translate.google.com/?hl=en&q=ple#es/fr/y jean click the LISTEN button to hear it spoken aloud Aszahn Targaryen. For sure I think it means they were married. From every clue of Lyanna, she would have named him after a Stark kin if it was just an affair. Sansa married Tyrion in light of the 7.... and Ramsey under the Godswood. This would have been the same thing. Lyanna is of the North, they would have been married at a Godswood. Even if Rhaegar was married to Elia Martell in the 7. Ok ok that's all fine and kinda sounds nice but we're talking about Aejon pronounced how it looks. You gotta admit that just ain't right. Imagine the coronation ceremony....ugh oh god I can't even. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iron Mother Posted June 27, 2016 Share Posted June 27, 2016 Just now, Asvpxkvng said: Ok ok that's all fine and kinda sounds nice but we're talking about Aejon pronounced how it looks. You gotta admit that just ain't right. Imagine the coronation ceremony....ugh oh god I can't even. this is all becoming so stupid...... as if at any point Jon will transform into some traditional house Targaryen name and go swaggering about as someone he never was before. I keep seeing him in some red cloth cloak and sitting on a gold throne and commanding his bodyservants. It won't happen. He won't I think ever abandon Jon Snow as his identity. Not even for STARK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Asvpxkvng Posted June 27, 2016 Share Posted June 27, 2016 47 minutes ago, Iron Mother said: this is all becoming so stupid...... as if at any point Jon will transform into some traditional house Targaryen name and go swaggering about as someone he never was before. I keep seeing him in some red cloth cloak and sitting on a gold throne and commanding his bodyservants. It won't happen. He won't I think ever abandon Jon Snow as his identity. Not even for STARK No one's saying that. Where did you get to that conclusion? I just don't like the sound of Aejon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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