Pile-O-Starks Posted June 27, 2016 Share Posted June 27, 2016 So, we now know (at least on the show) that there were at least two other survivors from ToJ - the maids tending to Lyanna. There was one lingering shot of one of them. She looked Dornish. Will be interesting to see if this matters. Do you guys think it will? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krakenface Posted June 27, 2016 Share Posted June 27, 2016 Also noticed a couple of shots that were over-the-shoulder, with ned and lyanna focussed and one of the maids in the foreground - that usually represents some form of importance of perspective etc. Interesting! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tugela Posted June 27, 2016 Share Posted June 27, 2016 Those were small folk, they don't count. And in any case, after Ned ran them through with his sword, the only survivors were him and Howland. Can't have any inconvenient witnesses who might talk, now can we! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arya_Stormborn Posted June 27, 2016 Share Posted June 27, 2016 One of them was probably Wylla, the woman who ended up being Jon's wet nurse and who Ned says is Jon's mother. (That's the answer he gives Robert Baratheon way back in Season 1, anyway.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeorgeIAF Posted June 27, 2016 Share Posted June 27, 2016 2 minutes ago, Krakenface said: Also noticed a couple of shots that were over-the-shoulder, with ned and lyanna focussed and one of the maids in the foreground - that usually represents some form of importance of perspective etc. Interesting! Maybe they were focusing on Howland. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrod Posted June 27, 2016 Share Posted June 27, 2016 2 hours ago, Arya_Stormborn said: One of them was probably Wylla, the woman who ended up being Jon's wet nurse and who Ned says is Jon's mother. (That's the answer he gives Robert Baratheon way back in Season 1, anyway.) That was my thought too. To take a baby that far would obviously have to have a wet nurse. Will be interesting to see if one of the spymasters (LF or Varys) uses one of those mid-wives or whatever they were to try and corroborate Jon being Lyanna and Rhaegar's son. I would think for people (especially those in the south) to buy it, it would almost have to come from Varys. If LF tried to prove it for some reason, now being tied so closely to the Starks and the North, people may just pass it off since no one really trusts LF anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marco van Panter Posted June 27, 2016 Share Posted June 27, 2016 Ashara Dayne maybe? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
House Do'urdan Posted June 27, 2016 Share Posted June 27, 2016 I wonder if he is going to return Ser Auther Dayne's body and sword. There was one last shot of dawn as Ned went to his sister. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Matthis Light Posted June 27, 2016 Share Posted June 27, 2016 Either those maids are dead, or with Howland how by the way we still don't know if hes alive or dead in the show. 29 minutes ago, Marco van Panter said: Ashara Dayne maybe? Lmao Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marco van Panter Posted June 27, 2016 Share Posted June 27, 2016 11 minutes ago, Sir Matthis Light said: Lmao Do that. Always great to see people interested in constructor discussions ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rumy Stark Posted June 27, 2016 Share Posted June 27, 2016 42 minutes ago, Marco van Panter said: Ashara Dayne maybe? Maybe! I am hoping we are not done with these flashbacks and that we will go to Starfall next season though. They certainly made it obvious there was another person there, and I think that's going to end up mattering. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Matthis Light Posted June 27, 2016 Share Posted June 27, 2016 7 minutes ago, Marco van Panter said: Do that. Always great to see people interested in constructor discussions ... You were serious? I honestly assumed you were making a quick joke about the Ashara theory. Sorry if your feeling got hurt, sincerely. I don't believe her to be Ashara as she really just looks like some peasant girl, and I doubt Ahsara even exist in the show. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ginny11 Posted June 27, 2016 Share Posted June 27, 2016 I was about to make a post about this, but thought to look if anyone else had yet, and here it is. I know the show probably won't address these details, but I also wonder how these handmaidens/wet nurses were made to be kept quiet about the truth. Money? Loyalty to Targaryens (protecting the true heir to the throne from being murdered by Robert)? I certainly do not believe the Ned we all know and love would have killed those women to keep silence them. No way. We already know that is not Ned's style. But I am curious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mista C Posted June 27, 2016 Share Posted June 27, 2016 There would 100% had to have been a wet nurse with them from the TOJ to Winterfell. No formula, no milk, just Ned and Howland Reed with an infant? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon's Queen Consort Posted June 27, 2016 Share Posted June 27, 2016 There were always more that Ned, Howland and Jon surving ToJ. They found Ned holding Lyanna. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbob Posted June 27, 2016 Share Posted June 27, 2016 Howland Reed will appear next season, I'm calling it. Bran will tell Meera and either she or both will fetch Howland. That will be their main story for that season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YOVMO Posted June 27, 2016 Share Posted June 27, 2016 18 minutes ago, jbob said: Howland Reed will appear next season, I'm calling it. Bran will tell Meera and either she or both will fetch Howland. That will be their main story for that season. oh? next season they are going to introduce the idea of "story" cool Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woman of War Posted June 27, 2016 Share Posted June 27, 2016 A woman who is a wet nurse must have had a baby herself most recently, otherwise she would not have any milk. So there would have to be a second small child somewhere around. Nobility often allowed the biological child of the wet nurse to starve and suffer in favor of the "valuable" child though let's assume Ned is the good guy and would not do that. So if one of the women is going to be Jon's wet nurse - where is the second infant and what is his or her name? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bini Bini Posted June 27, 2016 Share Posted June 27, 2016 2 minutes ago, Woman of War said: A woman who is a wet nurse must have had a baby herself most recently, otherwise she would not have any milk. So there would have to be a second small child somewhere around. Nobility often allowed the biological child of the wet nurse to starve and suffer in favor of the "valuable" child though let's assume Ned is the good guy and would not do that. So if one of the women is going to be Jon's wet nurse - where is the second infant and what is his or her name? He is Edric Dayne, (also known as Ned) of House Dayne. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pile-O-Starks Posted June 27, 2016 Author Share Posted June 27, 2016 1 hour ago, Jon's Queen Consort said: There were always more that Ned, Howland and Jon surving ToJ. They found Ned holding Lyanna. Yup. But we never knew who they were. And I guess we still don't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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