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On 6/27/2016 at 6:04 AM, LastManStanding said:

So with the North rallying behind him, Sassy Lady of Bear Island basically calling him a Stark, and the whole R+L thing, do you think Jon will ever be known or recognised as a Stark or Targaryen in the next couple of seasons? Or will he forever be Jon Snow? 

Aejon Targaryen.

It is known.

HAR!

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On 6/27/2016 at 2:39 PM, Corvinus said:

All I hope is not to have Jon competing in titles with Daenerys

Jon of House Stark and Targaryen, Conqueror of Death, The White Wolf, King in the North, Lord of Winterfell, Protector of the Realm, The Flame in the Darkness, Consort of Queen Daenerys titles titles titles

In the end, his titles might be something like that.

 

Jon of House Stark, The White Wolf, King of the North. (maybe) Lord of Winterfell.

Aegon of House Targaryen, Conqueror of Death, Over-King of the Seven Kingdoms, Protector of the Realm, Flame in Darkness. Lord of The Realm.

Co-Ruler with Danerys of House Targaryen, the Unburnt, Over-Queen of the Seven Kingdoms, Mother of Dragons, Breaker of Chains. Lady of The Realm

If the same political stuff was kept, Aegon would be about 8th of his name, Danerys might be First of Her Name.

re. Lord of Winterfell ... Sansa could very well remain as Lady of Winterfell or Bran could become Lord of Winterfell.  One of the Starks would end up with this title; not necessarily Jon.

 

Jon could maybe also have :Jon Snow, Lord Commander of the Night's Watch, Conqueror of Death, Friend of the Free-Folk

Not sure how former Lord Commander of the Night's Watch would be called out in his titles.  Some honorific?  'Former Lord Commander' ?

 

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Even tho' as King in the North, Jon now has the power to legitimize himself and become Jon Stark, I doubt he will. It would seem out of character, he's too humble and unassuming. He may well take another name if it's put upon him as King Stannis wanted to do, but he won't do it himself.

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19 minutes ago, Rory Snow said:

Even tho' as King in the North, Jon now has the power to legitimize himself and become Jon Stark, I doubt he will. It would seem out of character, he's too humble and unassuming. He may well take another name if it's put upon him as King Stannis wanted to do, but he won't do it himself.

Agree.  Jon won't care if his surname is Stark, Snow, or Targaryen.  He may be convinced or pressured into changing it by others, but not on his own.

 

Re. 'legitimize'... that is actually moot,now.  the Northern Lords have already 'legitimized' him, accepting him as part of House Stark and declaring him their King, bastard or no.

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49 minutes ago, Thror Baratheon said:

Re. 'legitimize'... that is actually moot,now.  the Northern Lords have already 'legitimized' him, accepting him as part of House Stark and declaring him their King, bastard or no.

Agreed, I hate that term. It's not like Robb, Sansa, et al were full blood Starks, they were half Stark, half Tully. So if Jon is half Stark, half Targaryen or even half Stark, half anonymous barmaid, he still has just as much Stark blood as the rest, so where's the problem?

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2 hours ago, Rory Snow said:

Agreed, I hate that term. It's not like Robb, Sansa, et al were full blood Starks, they were half Stark, half Tully. So if Jon is half Stark, half Targaryen or even half Stark, half anonymous barmaid, he still has just as much Stark blood as the rest, so where's the problem?

 

The thing that set him back is that they think Jon's mother is some tavern girl. Had they known he's of royal blood they would have much less despite towards him.

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If he takes Iron Throne. His real name if there is some might be needed because rulling as Stark on iron throne doesn't sound like the plan and George's ending. It seems everything is building up to Targaryen restoration. So either Jon Snow or Aemon Targaryen or some other name. White Wolf sound badass. Jon Stark is what many fans what but I don't think Jon will legtitimized himself but rather keep his Snow surname.

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6 hours ago, Rory Snow said:

Agreed, I hate that term. It's not like Robb, Sansa, et al were full blood Starks, they were half Stark, half Tully. So if Jon is half Stark, half Targaryen or even half Stark, half anonymous barmaid, he still has just as much Stark blood as the rest, so where's the problem?

The problem is he is a bastard, the product of Ned and anonymous barmaid. If Robert wasn't going around killing all Targaryens maybe he would have been raised as their cousin not their bastard half brother. Maybe there would have be less animosity toward him. 

I think he should take the Stark name over the Targaryen name. He is Ned's son even if its not genetically. 

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As others have pointed out, he is the king, so he can call himself whatever he wants now.  And it appears that it is headed toward a political marriage/ alliance between Dany and Jon, so a Targ-Stark joint ruling house.  Despite being a Targaryen by birth, Jon is the most Stark of all Ned's "children;" he is the only one who still has his magic direwolf.  Ned is his "father" even if it is not by blood.  Uncle Ned risked quite a bit to keep his nephew safe all out of love like a good father would.

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On 6/27/2016 at 1:44 PM, Aegonzo The Great said:

If Jon and Dany ever meet, the entire 60 minutes of the episode will be taken up by others introducing them while Jon and Dany just stare at each other awkwardly.

Dany can be a bit snobbish when it comes to her titles so it would be hilarious if Jon had a collection of titles to match hers.

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"This is Daenerys Stormborn of the House Targaryen, the Unburnt, the First of Her Name, Queen of Meereen, Queen of the Andals, the Rhoynar and the First Men, Lady Regnant of the Seven Kingdoms, Protector of the Realm, Khaleesi of the Great Grass Sea, Breaker of Chains and Mother of Dragons."

"This is Jon The White Wolf of House Stark, the Revenent, the Third(?) of His Name, King In The North, Lord of Winterfell, Leader of the Free Folk and Those Beyond-The-Wall The Sword in the Darkness, The Watcher on the Walls, The Fire that Burns Against the Cold, The Light that Brings the Dawn, The Horn that Wakes the Sleepers, The Shield that Guards the Realms of Men, The King of Winter, and Quite Possibly The Prince Who Was Promised and/or Azor Ahai Reborn, Depending on Which Crackpot Theory You Prescribe To."

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11 hours ago, Rory Snow said:

Agreed, I hate that term. It's not like Robb, Sansa, et al were full blood Starks, they were half Stark, half Tully. So if Jon is half Stark, half Targaryen or even half Stark, half anonymous barmaid, he still has just as much Stark blood as the rest, so where's the problem?

Marriage and stuff, yo.

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5 hours ago, King Jon Stark Targaryen said:

The problem is he is a bastard, the product of Ned and anonymous barmaid. If Robert wasn't going around killing all Targaryens maybe he would have been raised as their cousin not their bastard half brother. Maybe there would have be less animosity toward him. 

The problem is the term 'bastard'. If he actually were Ned's bastard, so what? It would be the Dad who cheated, Dad's mistake, yet Jon pays the price? That's absurd. The fact is, he has just as much Stark blood as Robb, Sansa and the rest. The idea of making the 'bastard' child pay the price is barbaric. If the nobles were truly worthy of that name they'd know better and act nobler.

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3 hours ago, Rory Snow said:

The problem is the term 'bastard'. If he actually were Ned's bastard, so what? It would be the Dad who cheated, Dad's mistake, yet Jon pays the price? That's absurd. The fact is, he has just as much Stark blood as Robb, Sansa and the rest. The idea of making the 'bastard' child pay the price is barbaric. If the nobles were truly worthy of that name they'd know better and act nobler.

I agree but that's the society. Ned didn't have to take him. He could have said he's my bastard. And put him some place else. Ned wanted him in Winderfell and Jon had to suffer but he was protected from the wrath of Robert. Cat hating him protected him. 

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There are only two Stark girls and one boy (Bran) left, and the boy can't have children. If Jon does not take the name Stark, the family name will die.

Also, the prophecy: water, lion, blood of love. First Snow (water... well, ok), Stark (the sigil is an animal), Targaryen (fire-love and blood).

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19 hours ago, Thror Baratheon said:

In the end, his titles might be something like that.

 

Jon of House Stark, The White Wolf, King of the North. (maybe) Lord of Winterfell.

Aegon of House Targaryen, Conqueror of Death, Over-King of the Seven Kingdoms, Protector of the Realm, Flame in Darkness. Lord of The Realm.

Behold:
the Prince Who Was Promised,
Scion of Kings,
Rhaegar’s Reward,
Only-Begotten Grandson of Aerys Targaryen and Rickard Stark,
the Wolves’ Dragon and the Dragons’ Wolf,

Prince Aemon the Dragonknight,
Triarch of the North,
Bridegroom of Ice and Fire,
the Unburnt Queen’s Last Love,
the Imp’s Nephew,
Othersbane,

Summer’s Last Sigh,
R’Hllor’s Revenant,
the Sword That Burns Away the Darkness,

Thousandth Lord Commander of the Watchers on the Wall,
the Breaker of Night
and
the Herald of Dawn!

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