Lord Friendzone Posted June 28, 2016 Share Posted June 28, 2016 9 minutes ago, Future Null Infinity said: I think (it's just an opinion nothing more) that Robert will hunt anyone, it doesn't matter who this person is, for Robert a man kidnapped Lyanna and this man must die, and the baby also must die, for Robert the baby is a product of a rape, a disgrace for Starks and Baratheons, I know that R+L=J is very important to book readers but as a show viewer (it's just an opinion nothing more) Rhaegar or Arthur is no not a big deal for me, they are both dead and gone, sure if this is where the plot is heading, it's just that for me Jon is too honorable to accept his aunt as a wife It's such an important reveal that it need to be same for book and show. Rhaegar kidnapped her but you can say what if he did it on behalf of it but then Rhaegar died with name of his loved one on his lips and we know he didn'r care much for Elia. Rhaegar loved Lyanna as Barristan said. Also LF said it. It's a common knowledge. Jon will need her support and what if she demands to marry her. Also he does things out of duty. If realm needs him, he'll do it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Future Null Infinity Posted June 28, 2016 Share Posted June 28, 2016 16 minutes ago, Chib said: I doubt that Dany will know of Jon's heritage (and Jon himself too) until the very end of the show. Maybe even in season 8. Sorry, I just was speaking about the case when Jon and Danny know already about the heritage of Jon, and even that, if Jon doesn't know that Danny is his aunt and the he will know about it later, I don't think that Jon will make it like he didn't see or hear anything Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chib Posted June 28, 2016 Share Posted June 28, 2016 Just now, Future Null Infinity said: Sorry, I just was speaking about the case when Jon and Danny know already about the heritage of Jon, and even that, if Jon doesn't know that Danny is his aunt and the he will know about it later, I don't think that Jon will make it like he didn't see or hear anything Yes, it might be bittersweet in the sense that they get married not knowing Jon's heritage. And then Bran jumps out of nowhere or Reed and announce that: "You guys are aunt and nephew!" Dany might be delighted but Jon might be: "WHAT NO! Call off this marriage!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon's Queen Consort Posted June 28, 2016 Share Posted June 28, 2016 7 hours ago, Thror Baratheon said: What Danny (or Jon) personally wants ... does not matter. If they are King and Queen, they have their realms and subjects to think of and put first. We see the consequences of rulers doing what they want in this series. Think of Robb. That doesn't make sense. People here are talking about what Dany wants forgeting about Jon and for Jon's Kingdom Dany is useless since they are separated from the rest of Westeros. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Future Null Infinity Posted June 28, 2016 Share Posted June 28, 2016 8 minutes ago, Lord Friendzone said: Jon will need her support and what if she demands to marry her. Also he does things out of duty. If realm needs him, he'll do it. Fair enough, I will accept this idea as the solution to my dilemma thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winter's Cold Posted June 28, 2016 Share Posted June 28, 2016 Just now, Jon's Queen Consort said: That doesn't make sense. People here are talking about what Dany wants forgeting about Jon and for Jon's Kingdom Dany is useless since they are separated from the rest of Westeros. Jon's marriage to Dany can unite the forces of the North and the Vale with forces of the Reach and Dorne. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon's Queen Consort Posted June 28, 2016 Share Posted June 28, 2016 Just now, Winter's Cold said: Jon's marriage to Dany can unite the forces of the North and the Vale with forces of the Reach and Dorne. And? I can bet that after everything that they have suffered the Northmen will never be under IThone's thrall anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blckp Posted June 28, 2016 Share Posted June 28, 2016 16 hours ago, Winter's Cold said: Jon's marriage to Dany can unite the forces of the North and the Vale with forces of the Reach and Dorne. lol, what force Jon Snow have? she can obliterate his little force vale or whatever shit in less than few minute, and for that she doesn't even needs army, she can do it alone i think vale and lannisters will be destroyed and the north will bend season 7 she will take control over whole westeros and season 8 war of dawn with WW Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robasp2 Posted June 28, 2016 Share Posted June 28, 2016 20 hours ago, jrod said: North still has an army, not big, but still. All those lords who didn't fight still have men (Manderly, Glover, etc). Again, not nearly the force of Dany, but they still do have men. Just sayin. Plus as even Cersei admitted in season 1 I believe, the North is about impossible to conquer, and even harder to hold, for an outsider. "It is too big and too wild" I believe she said. Plus with winter there the Dothraki would be worthless in the North, and the Unsullied I believe would struggle too. So her only other option would be using her dragons to destroy ever castle/holdfast in the North. If I had to guess, the alliance will come about as an option to not roast the entire northern half of Dany's new kingdom and to give the North the ultimate weapon against the WW and their wights. Sadly people with good logic, like you are not writing the show. I guess in the show they decide to marry after the bump into each other...literally.. God :(( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steenkash Posted June 28, 2016 Share Posted June 28, 2016 I want Dany to marry Jon, not only will this be a powerful allegiance, but it also will piss off the 'This is not the GRRM way' fans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stark_Fan Posted June 28, 2016 Share Posted June 28, 2016 I watched the episode again. It really does look like they are setting up a marriage alliance between the two. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stark_Fan Posted June 28, 2016 Share Posted June 28, 2016 Just now, steenkash said: I want Dany to marry Jon, not only will this be a powerful allegiance, but it also will piss off the 'This is not the GRRM way' fans. They are very confidant its not gonna happen...we shall see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chib Posted June 28, 2016 Share Posted June 28, 2016 4 minutes ago, blckp said: lol, what force Jon Snow have? she can obliterate his little force vale or whatever shit in less than few minute, and for that she doesn't even needs army, she can do it alone i think vale and lannisters will be destroyed and the north will bend 6 1) There is no guarantee Dany's army will definitely reach Westeros unharmed. What if there's a storm and half of her army got lost in the sea? 2) Her army is mostly used to WARM weather. They might be strong but the crazy weather in the North is not for them. Even her dragon might have trouble in snow storm. 3) Maybe by the time she defeats the Lannister, Riverland and Vale are on the North's side totally because they dislike her, who knows. Let's not forget Sansa and Arya can get help from the Vale and Riverland. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blckp Posted June 28, 2016 Share Posted June 28, 2016 16 hours ago, steenkash said: I want Dany to marry Jon, not only will this be a powerful allegiance, but it also will piss off the 'This is not the GRRM way' fans. even if she somehow marries out of pity with weakling which she cant gain anything, whats the point? from plot point?, she is searching husband for the queen ,just someone to fill spot for open vacancy, i dont think jon snow fits this, he will be her vassal at some point but not her clown/mistress Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chib Posted June 28, 2016 Share Posted June 28, 2016 6 minutes ago, blckp said: even if she somehow marries out of pity with weakling which she cant gain anything, whats the point? from plot point?, she is searching husband for the queen ,just someone to fill spot for open vacancy, i dont think jon snow fits this, he will be her vassal at some point but not her clown/mistress If her army died in the North because they can't stand the weather... then she has some reasons. lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Future Null Infinity Posted June 28, 2016 Share Posted June 28, 2016 15 minutes ago, blckp said: even if she somehow marries out of pity with weakling which she cant gain anything, whats the point? from plot point?, she is searching husband for the queen ,just someone to fill spot for open vacancy, i dont think jon snow fits this, he will be her vassal at some point but not her clown I see your point but I think if you compare now the men in westeros who have power and armies, you will find that Jon is in the first position, sure you think that the king of the stormborn must be as powerful as Danny but in Westeros there is no one like this, no one in planetos now have the power of daenerys, in the scene, her fleet stretches to the horizon, I think that she needs to make some compromises Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solanna Posted June 28, 2016 Share Posted June 28, 2016 Since Targaryens are known to marry brother and sister I can't see why it would be a problem for Jon and Dany being so closely related as they are. I am not so sure that's how things will go though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blckp Posted June 28, 2016 Share Posted June 28, 2016 16 hours ago, Future Null Infinity said: I see you point but I think if you compare now the men in westeros who have power and armies, you will find that Jon is in the first position, sure you think that the king of the stormborn must be as powerful as Danny but in Westeros there is no one like this, no one in planetos now have the power of daenerys, in the scene, her fleet stretches to the horizon, I think that she needs to make some compromises i don't think she will marry due to many reasons ,main reason is she will die at end of GOT, her prophecy foreshadowing it , she is mythical messiah kinda of character ,she and her dragons needs to die along with WW at end of GOT to end magic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Future Null Infinity Posted June 28, 2016 Share Posted June 28, 2016 1 minute ago, blckp said: i don't think she will marry due many reason ,main reason is she will die at end of GOT, her prophecy foreshadowing it , she is mythical messiah kinda of character ,she and her dragons needs to die along with WW at end of GOT to end magical characters I know, me too I'm fairly sure that she will die beyond the wall fighting the WW and meet Khal drogo and her baby in the after life (the truth, I don't see anyone surviving the story) but in the show made it clear that she will search for a suitable husband, I'm just discussing this possibility Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chib Posted June 28, 2016 Share Posted June 28, 2016 5 minutes ago, Future Null Infinity said: I know, me too I'm fairly sure that she will die beyond the wall fighting the WW and meet Khal drogo and her baby in the after life (the truth, I don't see anyone surviving the story) but in the show made it clear that she will search for a suitable husband, I'm just discussing this possibility Why most people assume that Dany and all magical characters will die at the end of the series? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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