Damon_Tor Posted June 28, 2016 Share Posted June 28, 2016 10 minutes ago, Future Null Infinity said: Baelish will stay with the north, he's is not interested in sliver hair, only in red hair You know, that's what he SAYS, but are we really taking Baelish at his word about that? "Everything I do gets me closer to the goal of sitting on the Iron Throne with you by my side." Since when? Where did selling her to the Boltons fit into that plan? And if in some convoluted way marrying her to someone else gets him Sansa SOMEHOW by the same logic Littlefinger can marry someone else and wind up with Sansa just as easily: Let Sansa Marry Ramsay Bolton ??? Marry Sansa and rule Westeros vs. Marry Daenerys Targaryen ??? Marry Sansa and rule Westeros I mean, at LEAST MasterPlan 2 gets him closer to ruling Westeros. MasterPlan 1 accomplished... what, exactly? It brought him no closer to ruling Westeros (arguably it pushed him further from that goal) AND it made it LESS likely he could marry Sansa. If he Married Daenerys at least later he could push her out a window, claim to be King of the World, and marry whoever he wanted. Makes at least a little more sense than selling his waifu to a guy who was at best a complete unknown and at worst a sadistic murdering psychopath. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Future Null Infinity Posted June 28, 2016 Share Posted June 28, 2016 7 minutes ago, Damon_Tor said: snip I agree but I think he can't approach the stormborn, because with Danny there is Tyrion are Varys (his enemy) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg B Posted June 28, 2016 Share Posted June 28, 2016 1 minute ago, Damon_Tor said: You know, that's what he SAYS, but are we really taking Baelish at his word about that? "Everything I do gets me closer to the goal of sitting on the Iron Throne with you by my side." Since when? Where did selling her to the Boltons fit into that plan? And if in some convoluted way marrying her to someone else gets him Sansa SOMEHOW by the same logic Littlefinger can marry someone else and wind up with Sansa just as easily: Let Sansa Marry Ramsay Bolton ??? Marry Sansa and rule Westeros 1. Let Sansa Marry Ramsay Bolton 2. Solidify Alliance That Controls Westeros from the Trident and Vale to the Wall 3. Make Sure Enough Tullys, Freys, Boltons and Arryns Die That You Control This Bloc (Must Include Roose and Ramsay Bolton) 4. Seize the Iron Throne by Force 5. Marry Sansa and Rule Westeros Granted, it's an ambitious plan, but this is a guy whose engineering of the civil war suggests an ability to read minds and foresee the future, so maybe he's just cocky. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panther2000 Posted June 28, 2016 Share Posted June 28, 2016 I just wonder how Dorne will react to Jon. Being that Rhaegar left his wife for Lyanna. Obryn wasn't too happy about it. I am sure that the others felt the same way. I don't see the it going too smooth at 1st for this new pairing. But, I think that is how it will end up before that is shot to hell. No happy endings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Future Null Infinity Posted June 28, 2016 Share Posted June 28, 2016 1 minute ago, Panther2000 said: I just wonder how Dorne will react to Jon. Being that Rhaegar left his wife for Lyanna. Obryn wasn't too happy about it. I am sure that the others felt the same way. I don't see the it going too smooth at 1st for this new pairing. But, I think that is how it will end up before that is shot to hell. No happy endings. Dorne will send the sand snakes to kill Jon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quyen Thuy Tran Posted June 28, 2016 Share Posted June 28, 2016 2 minutes ago, Panther2000 said: I just wonder how Dorne will react to Jon. Being that Rhaegar left his wife for Lyanna. Obryn wasn't too happy about it. I am sure that the others felt the same way. I don't see the it going too smooth at 1st for this new pairing. But, I think that is how it will end up before that is shot to hell. No happy endings. Dorne care nothing for Jon now that in the show the Martells are all dead. Lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zorral Posted June 28, 2016 Share Posted June 28, 2016 It's not in the least implausible from what we know about LF that he'd beeline to a very powerful claimant who has dragons to try his luck. It's so like him! Though Varys and Tyrion would likely put a kabosh on that before LF even began his maneuverings. Winter's coming. LF has reached the pinnacle of his success. From here on events that aren't even political will determine him as ever less important. Of course, it wouldn't be surprising if such thoughts are wrong, because such logical thoughts before have mostly been wrong! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quyen Thuy Tran Posted June 28, 2016 Share Posted June 28, 2016 Dany has Tyrion on her side, even Varys. They're not stupid to advise her to marry LF. If anything, LF night offer Dany to marry Robin which is clearly a joke lol. But it is possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Future Null Infinity Posted June 28, 2016 Share Posted June 28, 2016 13 minutes ago, Zorral said: It's not in the least implausible from what we know about LF that he'd beeline to a very powerful claimant who has dragons to try his luck. It's so like him! Though Varys and Tyrion would likely put a kabosh on that before LF even began his maneuverings. Winter's coming. LF has reached the pinnacle of his success. From here on events that aren't even political will determine him as ever less important. Of course, it wouldn't be surprising if such thoughts are wrong, because such logical thoughts before have mostly been wrong! LF is already dead when he unfolded his plans in godswood, it's a game of silence and planning, I never seen LF acting like a teenager like that, he lost his mind for the redhead stark women Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quyen Thuy Tran Posted June 28, 2016 Share Posted June 28, 2016 19 minutes ago, Future Null Infinity said: LF is already dead when he unfolded his plans in godswood, it's a game of silence and planning, I never seen LF acting like a teenager like that, he lost his mind for the redhead stark women Bran can jump out of nowhere and warn his siblings of how horrible LF is. Or Sandor might appear and tell Sansa the truth. LF will be dead by Sansa's hands. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Argonath Diver Posted June 28, 2016 Share Posted June 28, 2016 2 hours ago, Quyen Thuy Tran said: Dany isn't that desperate to marry the guy who killed her own father even though her father was mad. She already has Tyrion on her side. So no need to marry a Lannister. I certainly wasn't serious. That said, those kids would have impeccable looks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Masha Posted June 28, 2016 Share Posted June 28, 2016 3 hours ago, PirateVergo said: They won't end up together and shouldn't end up together. Jon would hate Daenery for the arrogant, self-centered, narcissistic person she is on top of being a queenslayer while Daenerys would find Jon boring as he's no fire like Daryo and would hate him for the fact that he's Ned Stark's bastard and unlike Tyrion there's no way Jon ever allow a snobbish to talk shit about the man who raised him. Oh and did I mention how them ending up together would be the most cliché ending you could probably think of? Cliche if they meet and fall in love with each other, I predict that they would not be in love, its going to be a pure political marriage and as you say they will most likely be barely able to stand each. I can see them meeting a month out of year especially once they have children and Jon spending most of his time in the North with Starks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damon_Tor Posted June 28, 2016 Share Posted June 28, 2016 4 hours ago, Greg B said: 1. Let Sansa Marry Ramsay Bolton 2. Solidify Alliance That Controls Westeros from the Trident and Vale to the Wall 3. Make Sure Enough Tullys, Freys, Boltons and Arryns Die That You Control This Bloc (Must Include Roose and Ramsay Bolton) 4. Seize the Iron Throne by Force 5. Marry Sansa and Rule Westeros Granted, it's an ambitious plan, but this is a guy whose engineering of the civil war suggests an ability to read minds and foresee the future, so maybe he's just cocky. Like I said, I'm not saying there wasn't some situation where marrying Sansa to Ramsay could lead to his stated goal I'm just saying it's silly to think that he WOULDN'T marry Daenerys because Sansa is his one true love or whatever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quyen Thuy Tran Posted June 28, 2016 Share Posted June 28, 2016 2 minutes ago, Damon_Tor said: Like I said, I'm not saying there wasn't some situation where marrying Sansa to Ramsay could lead to his stated goal I'm just saying it's silly to think that he WOULDN'T marry Daenerys because Sansa is his one true love or whatever. LF will have to go through both Varys and Tyrion to get to Dany. And these 2 are not stupid. Not to mention on Dany's side she has the Queen of Thorn who clearly knows what LF did. I don't think with all these people around, LF can get a hand on Dany. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damon_Tor Posted June 28, 2016 Share Posted June 28, 2016 48 minutes ago, Quyen Thuy Tran said: LF will have to go through both Varys and Tyrion to get to Dany. And these 2 are not stupid. Not to mention on Dany's side she has the Queen of Thorn who clearly knows what LF did. I don't think with all these people around, LF can get a hand on Dany. Well sure, it's pretty obvious it isn't going to actually HAPPEN, I just think it's important to note that Jon is not alone as a single male of sufficient status to marry a Queen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jarl Halstein Posted June 28, 2016 Share Posted June 28, 2016 22 hours ago, Daemon The Black Dragon said: Dany has slim pickings at this point. Jaime is out. She'll be at war with Euron. Robyn is too young. Littlefinger holds no real power now. Jon is King of the North. So it's looking like Jon right now. Why are you all forgetting Hot Pie? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Being Daenerys Targaryen Posted July 6, 2016 Share Posted July 6, 2016 On 27/06/2016 at 4:07 PM, jrod said: if you talking about claim then it goes Aerys ->Viserys->Daenerys , are you sure it goes that way? Aerys ->Viserys->Daenerys United Kingdom goes like William -> George (if he dies then his younger brother can be the heir) if they all die, then Harry can be the heir... So I guess it also goes like Aerys II -> Rhaegar -> his children (if they die, then ) -> Viserys and then -> Daenerys... I guess Rhaegar's children come first. Like Joffrey... He should have been the king... unfortunately he wasn't Robert's son... That's the reason why Ned wanted Stannis to become king. If Rhaegar and Lyanna got married, and if they can prove that he's Rhaegar's son, he's the heir... The rightful king of the Andals... Please, this is an opinion and please let me know if I'm wrong... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Being Daenerys Targaryen Posted July 6, 2016 Share Posted July 6, 2016 On 27/06/2016 at 5:40 PM, PirateVergo said: She is his aunt it's disgusting. Also we already know how Jon feel about kinslayer who watched their brother get burned without doing anything to help. He'll hate Dany as soon as he learn more about her. And Dany deserve a painful death in Westeros for her arrogance,cockyness and being the most boring character in both the show and books. Jamie and Cercei is disgusting... But Jon and Dany? No! Marriage of the year... But jamie and cercei's relationship is very disgusting... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Being Daenerys Targaryen Posted July 6, 2016 Share Posted July 6, 2016 On 28/06/2016 at 4:04 AM, D-Shiznit said: It's not complicated guys, it's actually hilariously telegraphed, even more so than R+L=J The name of the freaking series is "a song of ice & fire" ffs; Jon Snow and Daenerys the un-burnt. I mean hello? 'A song of ice and fire' can also be reffering to Jon himself. Son of Rhaegar Targaryen (fire) and Lyanna Stark (ice)... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Being Daenerys Targaryen Posted July 6, 2016 Share Posted July 6, 2016 On 28/06/2016 at 9:41 AM, Destroyer of Nations said: I honestly thought for a second they were going the Jon/Sansa way, which is also creepy, and the Tyrion/Dany way, wchich I'd actually be okay with If the show follows the book, then Tyrion is Daenery's half brother... Not confirmed but seems like there was an affair between Tywin's wife and King Aerys II Targaryen... That is the reason why Tywin didn't really like him and also just before dying Tywing shouted at Tyrion "YOU ARE NOT MY SON" ... I don't know... I really don't Know! Valar Morghulis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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