AncalagonTheBlack Posted August 7, 2016 Share Posted August 7, 2016 Previous topic archived Season 2 teaser trailer is out.Premiere in September. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Veltigar Posted August 7, 2016 Share Posted August 7, 2016 Glad to see it return. It's been more than a year no? 18 minutes ago, AncalagonTheBlack said: Previous topic archived It was too young to go Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HexMachina Posted August 7, 2016 Share Posted August 7, 2016 Apparently a rather dark part of the books has been cut/changed for this season Where Ross rapes Elizabeth. They are apparently making it more consensual on the show. This also tells us at least two books are covered by this season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zorral Posted August 8, 2016 Share Posted August 8, 2016 Having been exactly within the right state for the first Poldark (even though we saw it some years after first broadcast), with a splendid friend to watch with, who was exactly the in the right state too, this one isn't doing it for me at all. Time . . . time . . . time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AncalagonTheBlack Posted August 22, 2016 Author Share Posted August 22, 2016 Series 2 Launch Trailer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zorral Posted August 22, 2016 Share Posted August 22, 2016 They seem to have changed up the sound track from last to this season? Or am I mis-remembering all the way? (Admitting to not have paid much attention to anything about new Poldark other than the scenery.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Veltigar Posted September 4, 2016 Share Posted September 4, 2016 You know, I hadn't given Poldark much thought the past year or so. I kind of forgot a lot about it, but damn it if this episode wasn't lovely to look at! It's even prettier than before, if that was possible. Aidan Turner's abs are still in tip top shape and in general I really like how this cast interacts with each other. They play of each other very well, plenty of chemistry going around there. I also really liked the new additions to the cast. I'm sure Gabrielle Wild's character will be a highlight in episodes to be, her snappy comments at the expense of George and her buyer were great. And John Nettles in that burgundy outfit, perfection! Just looking at him, I understand why Midsomer Murders is so boring nowadays. That man is so charming. Generally liked the brooding and the scheming from everyone. Francis wasn't a petty bitch for once, which I like. George was a snake, as ever. The women are the only ones with brains and Ross the only one with any real integrity. It's odd, when Spoiler George went to gloat over him in gaol, he said he didn't understand why people were so keen on saving Ross' hiney. Personally, I do think the series does a good job at selling us some of Ross' magnetism. Anyway, really good opening episode. Hate that I have to wait another week for the next episodes. This is really a series I would like to be able to binge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zorral Posted September 5, 2016 Share Posted September 5, 2016 What I loved so much about the book series and the first television series based on the books was the anti-capitalist, anti-elite politics of both. Somewhere in catching up with all the television I didn't watch, meaning I didn't watch any television at all from the mid-1970's until dvds became available to play on one's computer, I noticed how the anti-elite Brit tv changed attitude somewhere in the Thatcher years. That's when Brit period series began to be o so sympathetic to the impoverished fallen from ruling the world class of families and characters. Then sometime in the 21st century, the inherent class / money inequality antagonism again began to be evident. So I wondered if this would show up in the New! Improved! Poldark. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theda Baratheon Posted September 6, 2016 Share Posted September 6, 2016 On 04/09/2016 at 10:30 PM, Veltigar said: You know, I hadn't given Poldark much thought the past year or so. I kind of forgot a lot about it, but damn it if this episode wasn't lovely to look at! It's even prettier than before, if that was possible. Aidan Turner's abs are still in tip top shape and in general I really like how this cast interacts with each other. They play of each other very well, plenty of chemistry going around there. I also really liked the new additions to the cast. I'm sure Gabrielle Wild's character will be a highlight in episodes to be, her snappy comments at the expense of George and her buyer were great. And John Nettles in that burgundy outfit, perfection! Just looking at him, I understand why Midsomer Murders is so boring nowadays. That man is so charming. Generally liked the brooding and the scheming from everyone. Francis wasn't a petty bitch for once, which I like. George was a snake, as ever. The women are the only ones with brains and Ross the only one with any real integrity. It's odd, when Reveal hidden contents George went to gloat over him in gaol, he said he didn't understand why people were so keen on saving Ross' hiney. Personally, I do think the series does a good job at selling us some of Ross' magnetism. Anyway, really good opening episode. Hate that I have to wait another week for the next episodes. This is really a series I would like to be able to binge he's from the same hometown as me in cornwall, he must quite like acting in a broad cornish accent Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zorral Posted September 7, 2016 Share Posted September 7, 2016 Envious, as I must wait until end of the month to start seeing season 2 over here. OTOH, I'm awfully busy through the end of October, which is going to cut deeply into my watching time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Pepper Posted September 7, 2016 Share Posted September 7, 2016 I watch this show for the scenery. Simply breathtaking. I can't really recall the specifics of much of the story from last season, so I felt a bit lost on some places. I didn't remember why Ross was being tried or why the drunk old caretakers were dismissed or why everyone loves Elizabeth. But whatever, the views of Cornwall are the best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Veltigar Posted September 7, 2016 Share Posted September 7, 2016 8 hours ago, Dr. Pepper said: I can't really recall the specifics of much of the story from last season, so I felt a bit lost on some places Me too, but it doesn't really matter. The scenery porn is still marvelous. Ross was being tried for plundering that ship wrecked before his piece of coastline, alongside all his starving workers. Elizabeth is liked because she nursed Francis' son back to health, at the cost of her own daughter with Ross. The drunk caregivers I don't really remember why they got sacked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kittykatknits Posted September 7, 2016 Share Posted September 7, 2016 12 hours ago, Dr. Pepper said: I watch this show for the scenery. Simply breathtaking. I can't really recall the specifics of much of the story from last season, so I felt a bit lost on some places. I didn't remember why Ross was being tried or why the drunk old caretakers were dismissed or why everyone loves Elizabeth. But whatever, the views of Cornwall are the best. Ross is being tried for three reasons: plundering the ship, inciting a riot, and murdering George's cousin. He's been framed for the last one and the first two are debatable. The riot started because neighboring miners came to also plunder. As the military officer also explained, plundering was technically legal but the bribe changed his mind. The drunk caretakers were fired by Ross. He had been ignoring Jud's drinking and their laziness mostly because he know Demelza and Prudie were close. Jud took it to far and Ross overheard him calling Demelza a hussy (I think it was?). So, Ross makes Prudie and Jud leave and explicitly tells Demelza his reasoning for doing it. They only move out to the barn which Ross pretends not to notice. I don't know if you are asking about Demelza or Elizabeth here. Don't know why everyone likes Elizabeth, never figured that one out. As to Demelza, she's loved by the miners and tenants because Ross loves her. She also helped out Jinny, helped Mark escape after he killed Karen, we repeatedly saw her cooking and providing food to the miner's children. She lacks self-confidence but has done really well with several members of the local gentry, she was making friends with the same people Ross should have been at the Warleggan ball. For comparison, I'd liken it to Tyrion's comment about Sansa having a knack for it during the purple wedding. ...I may have watched season one a couple times. Or five. Or six. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Pepper Posted September 7, 2016 Share Posted September 7, 2016 17 minutes ago, Kittykatknits said: I don't know if you are asking about Demelza or Elizabeth here. Don't know why everyone likes Elizabeth, never figured that one out. As to Demelza, she's loved by the miners and tenants because Ross loves her. She also helped out Jinny, helped Mark escape after he killed Karen, we repeatedly saw her cooking and providing food to the miner's children. She lacks self-confidence but has done really well with several members of the local gentry, she was making friends with the same people Ross should have been at the Warleggan ball. For comparison, I'd liken it to Tyrion's comment about Sansa having a knack for it during the purple wedding. Omg KittyKatknits!!!! How I've missed you!!!!! Thanks for the summary. On this part, I did mean Elizabeth. It seems she's just been thrust into the position of being much loved for the sake of the plot without them having done anything to show exactly what's so interesting about her. If I recall correctly, two main characters were in love with her at the start of the series so we just had to accept the set-up. Now there's another in love with her. I can't stand when people are in love with someone jsut for plot convenience. She rarely interacts with anyone except for those few moments where it's the other characters giving her their "i'm in love with you" eyes. They've done so well developing the other characters on the show, especially the women. When Demelza and Prudie and Verity and even the old Auntie came on the screen, I remembered them and who they were even if I'd forgotten a lot of things about the plot. Elizabeth is just this blank slate, existing only so the men around her can fall in love with her and then use that to drive their own plots. I don't like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kittykatknits Posted September 7, 2016 Share Posted September 7, 2016 8 minutes ago, Dr. Pepper said: Omg KittyKatknits!!!! How I've missed you!!!!! Thanks for the summary. On this part, I did mean Elizabeth. It seems she's just been thrust into the position of being much loved for the sake of the plot without them having done anything to show exactly what's so interesting about her. If I recall correctly, two main characters were in love with her at the start of the series so we just had to accept the set-up. Now there's another in love with her. I can't stand when people are in love with someone jsut for plot convenience. She rarely interacts with anyone except for those few moments where it's the other characters giving her their "i'm in love with you" eyes. They've done so well developing the other characters on the show, especially the women. When Demelza and Prudie and Verity and even the old Auntie came on the screen, I remembered them and who they were even if I'd forgotten a lot of things about the plot. Elizabeth is just this blank slate, existing only so the men around her can fall in love with her and then use that to drive their own plots. I don't like. Hi, You're one of the ones I've missed too. Not much new content so don't drop in much. But, if this thread is active when season two finally gets to the US then I'll be around for it. Yeah, I have pretty much the same opinion of Elizabeth. She just sorta exists for the plot with no real arc of her own which stands out to every other female character. Prudie grows more than she does. She provides love triangles and man angst because she exists and that's it. The other women are pretty well done in comparison, even Karen who is rather unlikeable is more developed and given an actual story of her own. I love Verity, she's the smartest one around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theda Baratheon Posted September 7, 2016 Share Posted September 7, 2016 I actually like Karen and feel so sorry for her and I cried in the book when she dies. I mean...I honestly think her husband that KILLS HER (I don't care if it was an accident ? wtf? he ENDED HER LIFE) is so MUCH WORSE than her, her for being a dreamer, smarter than was good for her, and attracted to dwight. I liked her and dwight. It's horrible how women are and have been treated. Elizabeth I totally agree with, she's just so...bland. She's really just...boring. I mean, yes she's very pretty, but other than that we really haven't seen very much from her personality wise other than being kinda nice I guess? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theda Baratheon Posted September 7, 2016 Share Posted September 7, 2016 also @Kittykatknits - I wanted to say hi too I always enjoy reading your posts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Pepper Posted September 7, 2016 Share Posted September 7, 2016 I don't normally do this, but any chance we can get book spoilers tagged please? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kittykatknits Posted September 7, 2016 Share Posted September 7, 2016 1 hour ago, Theda Baratheon said: I actually like Karen and feel so sorry for her and I cried in the book when she dies. I mean...I honestly think her husband that KILLS HER (I don't care if it was an accident ? wtf? he ENDED HER LIFE) is so MUCH WORSE than her, her for being a dreamer, smarter than was good for her, and attracted to dwight. I liked her and dwight. It's horrible how women are and have been treated. Elizabeth I totally agree with, she's just so...bland. She's really just...boring. I mean, yes she's very pretty, but other than that we really haven't seen very much from her personality wise other than being kinda nice I guess? I never warmed up to Karen, dunno. I was pretty horrified when her husband killed her though. I think her murder was meant to be used for a bit of class commentary. Blamey killed his wife in an "accident", served a few years, still in touch with his kids, and went on to live with no real negative career impact. Mark, who did something similar, was facing an almost certain death sentence. Demelza, another woman, is the only other person who made any attempt to reach out to her. After my earlier post, I started thinking about Elizabeth again. The best I can come up with is that she serves as a foil to Demelza and is a representative of the gentry class. Elizabeth is exactly what she is supposed to be and not much else. She plays the harp and does embroidery, provides a male heir, and wrings her hands over the family fortune. And that's about it. Man, I'm spouting some serious weak-sauce here. I keep wanting to compare her to Sansa which doesn't much improve my opinion of Elizabeth either. And thanks for the welcome back. I'll be around for season two for sure. Sadly, couldn't find any legal methods to start watching it earlier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zorral Posted September 7, 2016 Share Posted September 7, 2016 Elizabeth is a total creation of the author to give Ross lots of motivation for all sorts of bad behaviors, and to keep him divided from his own class, since his bestie cousin married her, and George Warlaggen, who is attempting to rise in class, is besotted with her. It also provides some tension for Demelza as the class outsider. So having Demelza save Elizabeth and her child from the whatever it was (I don't remember) is all more dramatic, then followed by the death of hers and Ross's child. All that said, she's a lot more sympathetic in this version of Poldark (at least in season 1 which is the only one I've seen) than she was in either the first BBC version or the books. More attractive too. The actress who played Elizabeth in the first Poldark was presented like -- a rabbit, dressed in late 18th century gowns and wigs. And whine! O lordessa, did she whine. Was so glad when she died, despite Ross going off the rails then -- passing away of his past or something I suppose. As writing it is quite clever. As writing that reflects how women these days are so awayre of female characters used as plot points though, for the sake of the masculine primaries's actions and motivations -- not so admirable. We've all grown since those days -- one hopes. But this makes it difficult for the actress unless the character is substantially rewritten. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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