Lord Friendzone Posted October 26, 2016 Share Posted October 26, 2016 Spoiler Leaker was right about Jon, Jorah, Gendry and Davos and their mission Beyond the Wall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laughing Storm Reborn Posted October 26, 2016 Share Posted October 26, 2016 Really?? marriage?? Aegon?? Man, this is disapointment to the 10th degree... i expected it from disney Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashes Of Westeros Posted October 26, 2016 Share Posted October 26, 2016 22 minutes ago, Laughing Storm Reborn said: Really?? marriage?? Aegon?? Man, this is disapointment to the 10th degree... i expected it from disney Where did you find about Aegon??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrl6199 Posted October 26, 2016 Share Posted October 26, 2016 2 minutes ago, Ashes Of Westeros said: Where did you find about Aegon??? Yeah really. What does Aegon have to do with season 7. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Princess of Ghosts Posted October 26, 2016 Share Posted October 26, 2016 58 minutes ago, lojzelote said: Doesn't matter. The Northern lords in the show chose Snow over Stark, as illogical as it may appear under the circumstances. It does Bran little good he is the oldest male Stark, Jon has been acclaimed their leader, Snow or not, and it would make the whole thing even dumber if they changed their decision a few weeks later. Why even bother with it then? Anyway, assuming that Book Jon was legitimized by Robb's will, in the past GRRM let himself be heard on the matter of legitimized male bastards vs their trueborn sisters and trueborn younger brothers, and he basically stated that the Westerosi laws and customs are unclear in regards as to who is the "rightful" heir is in such a case. Both Bran and Jon would have a good claim. (Edit: That's why Book Catelyn was so set against Robb naming Jon. She knew he might be kinda opening Pandora's box here.) I still think Jon's kingship has something to do with being male and fighting brave (by no mean bad things, I'm not saying he's not worthy of kingship) and Sansa's marriages than Stark/Snow issues. But if Bran's reappearance doesn't change things they're really bringing his character down to, as someone before me said, 'an exposition machine'. I know the situation with legitimized bastards and trueborn younger sons, however, we should keep in mind that it suggest some kind of animosity, rivalry between siblings, which is not present here. It would be arrogant of Jon if he at least does not consider passing his title to Bran. Jon can always be appointed as a regent/commander (but we all know it won't come to this). I'm just trying to squeeze some law logic into this fine mess of a show. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Friendzone Posted October 26, 2016 Share Posted October 26, 2016 1 minute ago, Ashes Of Westeros said: Where did you find about Aegon??? Leaks. Jon's name is Aegon and Rhaegar annulled his first marriage with Elia further butchering Dorne. THey laready mnetiopned Prince Aegon on the show but fuck continuity. Rhaegar and Lyanna were married and Jon is rightful heir to Iron Throne. Sam and Gily will find out in Citadel, mainly Gilly who mentioned Ragar or something in old papers. Sam will not pay attention until later on on figured it out. Sam and Bran wil piece together Jon's parentage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashes Of Westeros Posted October 26, 2016 Share Posted October 26, 2016 3 minutes ago, Lord Friendzone said: Leaks. Hide contents Jon's name is Aegon and Rhaegar annulled his first marriage with Elia further butchering Dorne. THey laready mnetiopned Prince Aegon on the show but fuck continuity. Rhaegar and Lyanna were married and Jon is rightful heir to Iron Throne. Sam and Gily will find out in Citadel, mainly Gilly who mentioned Ragar or something in old papers. Sam will not pay attention until later on on figured it out. Sam and Bran wil piece together Jon's parentage. My eyeeeees! Why did I read this???? Seems that Oberyn didn't know about Elia's marriage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrl6199 Posted October 26, 2016 Share Posted October 26, 2016 1 minute ago, Ashes Of Westeros said: My eyeeeees! Why did I read this???? Seems that Oberyn didn't know about Elia's marriage. yeah me to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Princess of Ghosts Posted October 26, 2016 Share Posted October 26, 2016 2 minutes ago, Lord Friendzone said: Leaks. Reveal hidden contents Jon's name is Aegon and Rhaegar annulled his first marriage with Elia further butchering Dorne. THey laready mnetiopned Prince Aegon on the show but fuck continuity. Rhaegar and Lyanna were married and Jon is rightful heir to Iron Throne. Sam and Gily will find out in Citadel, mainly Gilly who mentioned Ragar or something in old papers. Sam will not pay attention until later on on figured it out. Sam and Bran wil piece together Jon's parentage. Everyone's secret name is Spoiler Aegon they just don't know it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashes Of Westeros Posted October 26, 2016 Share Posted October 26, 2016 2 minutes ago, The Princess of Ghosts said: Everyone's secret name is Hide contents Aegon they just don't know it. Even Dany's. She just doesn't know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Friendzone Posted October 26, 2016 Share Posted October 26, 2016 Why would Jon, Dany and Tyrion agree to work with Cersei? Very simple nobody wants to die, he'll show them what is coming. Likely dragonpit. Which is why Jon is heading North with his band. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrl6199 Posted October 26, 2016 Share Posted October 26, 2016 Just now, Ashes Of Westeros said: Even Dany's. She just doesn't know. yep. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leticia Stark Posted October 26, 2016 Share Posted October 26, 2016 17 minutes ago, Lord Friendzone said: Leaks. Reveal hidden contents Jon's name is Aegon and Rhaegar annulled his first marriage with Elia further butchering Dorne. THey laready mnetiopned Prince Aegon on the show but fuck continuity. Rhaegar and Lyanna were married and Jon is rightful heir to Iron Throne. Sam and Gily will find out in Citadel, mainly Gilly who mentioned Ragar or something in old papers. Sam will not pay attention until later on on figured it out. Sam and Bran wil piece together Jon's parentage. I'm blind. Spoiler Not Aegon. This will be a mess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordImp Posted October 26, 2016 Share Posted October 26, 2016 Why did they choose Aegon ? Aemon would have been much better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordImp Posted October 26, 2016 Share Posted October 26, 2016 When are Jon and co leaving for the Wall? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lojzelote Posted October 26, 2016 Share Posted October 26, 2016 39 minutes ago, The Princess of Ghosts said: I still think Jon's kingship has something to do with being male and fighting brave (by no mean bad things, I'm not saying he's not worthy of kingship) and Sansa's marriages than Stark/Snow issues. But if Bran's reappearance doesn't change things they're really bringing his character down to, as someone before me said, 'an exposition machine'. I know the situation with legitimized bastards and trueborn younger sons, however, we should keep in mind that it suggest some kind of animosity, rivalry between siblings, which is not present here. It would be arrogant of Jon if he at least does not consider passing his title to Bran. Jon can always be appointed as a regent/commander (but we all know it won't come to this). I'm just trying to squeeze some law logic into this fine mess of a show. Well, it seems that Jon will leave Winterfell before Bran even appears on the horizon, and later on he will step down to Dany and recognize her as his Queen? (Unless I'm mixing different persons' leaks or 'leaks' together.) The North changing its mind would take Jon's authority to make such a vital political decision away, and it would complicate things needlessly. Anyhow, if this happens, Jon has nothing to give to Bran. Lady of Winterfell is already Sansa, so it's her who should step down, theoretically. As for other functions, if Dany is Queen, then it's up to her who she chooses for her Warden of the North. In which case I'd say that Jon as an able-bodied, adult man with leadership experience whom she already knows make more sense then a disabled teenager she does not know. We've actually seen in AGoT that the Warden of a certain region doesn't always equal the reigning lord in the same region. After Jon Arryn's death, Robert Baratheon wanted to give the title to Jaime Lannister (of all people!) instead of Sweetrobin, since Robin was only a little sickly child, and the Warden of the East is a military title of great importance. So, Sansa or Bran may get Winterfell, but Jon could still be the de facto ruler/Dany's top manager/administrator/general in the North/ whatever you want to call it. After all, apparently he's her partner in the negotiations. At least I think it would logical development, going from here. Dunno. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laughing Storm Reborn Posted October 26, 2016 Share Posted October 26, 2016 38 minutes ago, Lord Friendzone said: Leaks. Hide contents Jon's name is Aegon and Rhaegar annulled his first marriage with Elia further butchering Dorne. THey laready mnetiopned Prince Aegon on the show but fuck continuity. Rhaegar and Lyanna were married and Jon is rightful heir to Iron Throne. Sam and Gily will find out in Citadel, mainly Gilly who mentioned Ragar or something in old papers. Sam will not pay attention until later on on figured it out. Sam and Bran wil piece together Jon's parentage. Yep, quality right there... I truly hope the books are a VERY different animal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philokles Posted October 26, 2016 Share Posted October 26, 2016 So after years of contrived shocks, they've gone full-on wish fulfilment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashes Of Westeros Posted October 26, 2016 Share Posted October 26, 2016 9 minutes ago, Laughing Storm Reborn said: Yep, quality right there... I truly hope the books are a VERY different animal Spoiler This is apparently what we got from fAegon's storyline. it will be partly miixed with Jon's. OMFG. I really really hope at least 50% of these leaks are bs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laughing Storm Reborn Posted October 26, 2016 Share Posted October 26, 2016 13 minutes ago, Ashes Of Westeros said: Reveal hidden contents This is apparently what we got from fAegon's storyline. it will be partly miixed with Jon's. OMFG. I really really hope at least 50% of these leaks are bs. I hope it's 99,9% but some of it is reenforced by filming pics leaked as of late... this really screams "let's give the masses what they want, tired iout cliches, with some aunt-nephew lovin" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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