Ser Scot A Ellison Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 On 12/10/2018 at 12:53 PM, Which Tyler said: The season felt like a return to old-Who. Villain of the week, with no particular overlying arc. The fate of the entire universe / mutiverse was never particularly threatened; and certainly didn't need one of the companions to the specialist of all snowflakes that was ever unicorned into existence; alternating educational history with adventures in space and time; The doctor as a hypocrit who's generally more interested in witnessing history than being it's fulcrum; and no sonic sucking sunglasses! I approve of all of those things. I like story arcs and hate “villain of the week”. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
polishgenius Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 13 hours ago, Jaxom 1974 said: For a while, i actually thought they were going to forgo the Dalek in its armor entirely, to give it enough of a distinction from past stories... That'd have been interesting, but I did enjoy the echo back to the first episode where the Doctor made her sonic screwdriver with the Dalek re-armouring scene. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maltaran Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 It was nice to see them having just a single Dalek as such a huge threat, reminds me of their boast to the Cybermen in the Canary Wharf battle. Huge armies of Daleks seem to suffer from what TVTropes calls the Conservation of Ninjutsu Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Horse Named Stranger Posted January 4, 2019 Share Posted January 4, 2019 Having now seen the entire sason (including the special), is it just me, or was that a solid season. There wasn't a standout episode, which will go down as a memorable classic, but there wasn't a real stinker either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
williamjm Posted January 4, 2019 Share Posted January 4, 2019 7 minutes ago, A Horse Named Stranger said: Having now seen the entire sason (including the special), is it just me, or was that a solid season. There wasn't a standout episode, which will go down as a memorable classic, but there wasn't a real stinker either. I agree. Most recent seasons have had at least a couple of episodes (and often more) where I wondered what the writers were thinking, but I didn't feel like that for any of them this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
red snow Posted January 4, 2019 Share Posted January 4, 2019 The special was decent although i don't approve of them ramming their environmental agenda down our throats with those windmills! The old Doctor who would never have done this and would have reserved windmills in their traditional form - ideally in an episode set in the Netherlands. Which is how i feel about the complaints about brexit jokes and alleged PC tskeover. It's nonsense. Some brexit supporters are iverly sensitive if they took the UNIT gag as a direct assault on British freedom. It was a good use of a dalek and i much prefer this type of humanoid form over the very silly eye-stalk out of human heads version. Only real complaint is that i'd have probably rather watched an hour of vikings fighting a dalek. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sifth Posted January 5, 2019 Share Posted January 5, 2019 2 hours ago, A Horse Named Stranger said: Having now seen the entire sason (including the special), is it just me, or was that a solid season. There wasn't a standout episode, which will go down as a memorable classic, but there wasn't a real stinker either. See I on the other hand thought every episode was pretty bad, with the exception of only 2 and the New Years special. I've also heard from my friend in UK that the ratting aren't doing very well over there, but have actually gone up in the U.S. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
williamjm Posted January 5, 2019 Share Posted January 5, 2019 21 minutes ago, sifth said: I've also heard from my friend in UK that the ratting aren't doing very well over there, but have actually gone up in the U.S. It does seem to be a common belief that the ratings are poor, despite the season having the second-highest average rating of any full season since the revival of the show. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Horse Named Stranger Posted January 5, 2019 Share Posted January 5, 2019 20 hours ago, sifth said: See I on the other hand thought every episode was pretty bad, with the exception of only 2 and the New Years special. Then our definitions of pretty bad episodes differ. Like I said, I don't think there was a really great nine out of ten or ten out of ten episode in it either, but it was really ok. Really bad episodes are: Love and Monsters (easily the worst episode for the relaunched series) from the Tennant's Doctor, or Curse of the Black Spot or the Beast below from the Smith's Doctor. Those were just plain bad. (I could add a few more) On the other hand, highlight episodes for the relaunched series, which will probably stand the test of time (at least imho) and become classics are episodes like: Father's day (Ecclestone), Silence in the Library and Forest of the Dead (Tennant; remember when Moffat could write multi-parters that were actually good), Blink (Tennant), The Doctor's wife (Smith). This series didn't really have any outliers. And overall I think it was a step up from Capaldi's time as Doctor. Well, mainly because Moffat stepped down as showrunner. I hope now, that the characters are more or less built up, the second season will also provide some highlight episodes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sifth Posted January 6, 2019 Share Posted January 6, 2019 4 hours ago, A Horse Named Stranger said: Then our definitions of pretty bad episodes differ. Like I said, I don't think there was a really great nine out of ten or ten out of ten episode in it either, but it was really ok. Really bad episodes are: Love and Monsters (easily the worst episode for the relaunched series) from the Tennant's Doctor, or Curse of the Black Spot or the Beast below from the Smith's Doctor. Those were just plain bad. (I could add a few more) On the other hand, highlight episodes for the relaunched series, which will probably stand the test of time (at least imho) and become classics are episodes like: Father's day (Ecclestone), Silence in the Library and Forest of the Dead (Tennant; remember when Moffat could write multi-parters that were actually good), Blink (Tennant), The Doctor's wife (Smith). This series didn't really have any outliers. And overall I think it was a step up from Capaldi's time as Doctor. Well, mainly because Moffat stepped down as showrunner. I hope now, that the characters are more or less built up, the second season will also provide some highlight episodes. I'm not holding my breath, unless the show runners suddenly understands that pointless PC episodes, don't belong in a fun sci-fi comedy series. I love Jodie, but the the writing has just been horrible this season. I want more fun episodes about exploration, mystery and maybe even a little horror and not lessons in PC culture. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mormont Posted January 6, 2019 Share Posted January 6, 2019 7 hours ago, sifth said: I'm not holding my breath, unless the show runners suddenly understands that pointless PC episodes, don't belong in a fun sci-fi comedy series. I love Jodie, but the the writing has just been horrible this season. I want more fun episodes about exploration, mystery and maybe even a little horror and not lessons in PC culture. Are you sure you're watching Doctor Who? Because it sounds as if you're watching another programme entirely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maltaran Posted January 6, 2019 Share Posted January 6, 2019 Since when is Doctor Who a comedy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sifth Posted January 6, 2019 Share Posted January 6, 2019 4 hours ago, mormont said: Are you sure you're watching Doctor Who? Because it sounds as if you're watching another programme entirely. So the Doctor never made you laugh and this current series wasn't filled with stupid PC lesson episodes? You're just fooling yourself if you think that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mormont Posted January 6, 2019 Share Posted January 6, 2019 11 minutes ago, sifth said: So the Doctor never made you laugh and this current series wasn't filled with stupid PC lesson episodes? You're just fooling yourself if you think that. Come on. If that's your attempt to get out of the hole, you're surely not even fooling yourself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sifth Posted January 6, 2019 Share Posted January 6, 2019 18 minutes ago, mormont said: Come on. If that's your attempt to get out of the hole, you're surely not even fooling yourself. Says the guy who thinks Doctor Who is some type serious drama. It's a children's show man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mormont Posted January 6, 2019 Share Posted January 6, 2019 9 minutes ago, sifth said: Says the guy who thinks Doctor Who is some type serious drama. Who are you talking about? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sifth Posted January 6, 2019 Share Posted January 6, 2019 5 minutes ago, mormont said: Who are you talking about? Now you lost me. I'm just saying Doctor Who is just viewed as a silly kids show in the UK, which is what my 3 friends over there tell me all the time. You seem to be defending it as if it's some type of hardcore sci-fi drama. Again just assumptions, because your replies to me have been very vague at best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
polishgenius Posted January 6, 2019 Share Posted January 6, 2019 23 minutes ago, sifth said: which is what my 3 friends over there tell me all the time. Three whole friends!?!?!?!?!? Well you cannot be wrong. Nobody thinks Doctor Who is a hardcore sci-fi drama, but it's not seen as just some 'silly kids show' and it's always been used to make moral points. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Horse Named Stranger Posted January 6, 2019 Share Posted January 6, 2019 13 hours ago, sifth said: I want more fun episodes about exploration, mystery and maybe even a little horror and not lessons in PC culture. Ah, you are one of those... Not sure where you feel PC culture was forced upon you? Rosa? Racism is bad. I honestly did not consider that to be controversial. Demons of Punjab (easily the best episode of the season for me)? The British Empire has left a mess behind in India, and also racism is bad. Also nothing particularly controversial. The Doctor himself, or rather herself now, has always been PC creature. He/she does not carry a gun, never has. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heartofice Posted January 6, 2019 Share Posted January 6, 2019 The India and Rosa parks episodes did seem to have an obvious agenda behind their presence, I think the show has made more effort to be a bit more political this season at times. Depends how you feel on how appropriate that is for Doctor Who to be the place pushing a message on these issues. The shows has dealt with stuff like this before however They were some of the better episodes of the season imo mainly as I wasn’t a fan of a lot of the Monster of the week stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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