The Marquis de Leech Posted July 20, 2018 Author Share Posted July 20, 2018 2 hours ago, AlpenglowMemories said: The Fall of Gondolin hardback looks gorgeous: https://imgur.com/a/OA9NTe4 Oooh. I hadn't seen the back cover. Alan Lee's Sea is awesome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HexMachina Posted July 20, 2018 Share Posted July 20, 2018 12 hours ago, AlpenglowMemories said: The Fall of Gondolin hardback looks gorgeous: https://imgur.com/a/OA9NTe4 I promised myself I wouldn’t buy it but damn if that isn’t gorgeous. Alan Lee is always quality but phew! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlpenglowMemories Posted July 20, 2018 Share Posted July 20, 2018 I feel like this is the best depiction of Ulmo we've gotten yet. Granted, my mind immediately goes to the Nasmith rendition of this scene - the one that has a very pulp 70s/80s feel to it.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Marquis de Leech Posted July 21, 2018 Author Share Posted July 21, 2018 3 hours ago, AlpenglowMemories said: I feel like this is the best depiction of Ulmo we've gotten yet. Granted, my mind immediately goes to the Nasmith rendition of this scene - the one that has a very pulp 70s/80s feel to it.... Searching around online, I found this one, which I quite like: https://img00.deviantart.net/c092/i/2015/105/b/5/ulmo_appears_before_tuor_by_leone_art-d7yzkj1.jpg A shame that Tuor's standing so awkwardly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Werthead Posted July 21, 2018 Share Posted July 21, 2018 John Howe's rendition from Unfinished Tales has always been my favourite. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlpenglowMemories Posted July 21, 2018 Share Posted July 21, 2018 I like both of those, though I think Lee's recent version reigns supreme. Generally speaking, Tolkien art tends to have spectacular architecture and natural worlds, but is often inconsistent on the people depictions. Nasmith is the worst offender of that. There's some bizarre looking images of the Fellowship out there from him. It's a shame because of how wonderfully he captures the environments. Also, any update on what this book contains? I'm trying not get too excited about new material. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calibandar Posted July 22, 2018 Share Posted July 22, 2018 19 hours ago, AlpenglowMemories said: I like both of those, though I think Lee's recent version reigns supreme. Generally speaking, Tolkien art tends to have spectacular architecture and natural worlds, but is often inconsistent on the people depictions. Nasmith is the worst offender of that. There's some bizarre looking images of the Fellowship out there from him. It's a shame because of how wonderfully he captures the environments. Also, any update on what this book contains? I'm trying not get too excited about new material. There is still no further insight into what's in it, outside of what we discussed back in May. On the topic of that Ulmo rendition, it is indeed gorgeous. For me it rivals and probably surpasses the Nasmith one, which I would still put second. http://www.tednasmith.com/tolkien/ulmo-appears-before-tuor/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Werthead Posted July 23, 2018 Share Posted July 23, 2018 I think there's a good reason why Nasmith's ASoIaF artwork doesn't have any characters in it. It's not his forte, although I have some fondness for his Tom Bombadil that strongly resembles Patrick Rothfuss. That does remind me that of the Big Three Tolkien artists, two of them have done ASoIaF as well (Howe did the limited edition of Clash of Kings). I'd be interested to see Lee take a crack at it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calibandar Posted July 24, 2018 Share Posted July 24, 2018 Nasmith, Howe and Lee are all so very good at what they do, Tolkien fandom is blessed to have such great work being produced by them. Nasmith and Howe are my favourites on the whole. That said Lee's more recent work appeals to me much more than his earlier work, so all the illustrations he's done for Beren and Luthien and Children of Hurin, quite excellent, as well as all his stuff that is in The Hobbit Chronicles artbooks by WETA. Highly recommended those books btw, great work by some of the WETA artists that are lesser known to us. BTW for those interested, pretty cool new book released on Tolkien, aims to be very inclusive, lots of new stuff in it apparently, titled Maker of Middle Earth. https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/1851244859/ref=ox_sc_act_title_5?smid=A3P5ROKL5A1OLE&psc=1 As for artists, Donato Giancola has a book out with his Middle Earth paintings. I have it. Some of it is very good but on some others the faces are really off. His face of Gandalf is different for each painting for instance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Werthead Posted July 29, 2018 Share Posted July 29, 2018 Today is the 64th anniversary of the publication of The Fellowship of the Ring. Time to raise a beer to Tolkien's memory, I think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlpenglowMemories Posted August 10, 2018 Share Posted August 10, 2018 https://www.newstatesman.com/culture/books/2018/08/master-his-universe-warnings-jrr-tolkien-s-novels Dismissed as reactionary fantasy and even labelled fascist, Tolkien’s novels told of the corrupting influence of power. He deserves to be taken seriously, now more than ever. Interesting read, especially in a time when the Stormfront types are crawling out of the woodwork. (I remember finding their "Saruman is the Jewish Elite" thread a long time ago, yeesh) and LOTR seems a work either unfortunately embraced by far-right or sometimes even given to them by the left. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calibandar Posted August 11, 2018 Share Posted August 11, 2018 Fall of Gondolin being kept very tightly under wraps, still no details on contents or table of contents, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlpenglowMemories Posted August 11, 2018 Share Posted August 11, 2018 GRRM discussing the shock Gandalf's death had on him: https://metro.co.uk/2018/08/11/can-blame-lord-rings-gandalf-deaths-ned-robb-stark-game-thrones-7827671/ Full video: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeanF Posted August 14, 2018 Share Posted August 14, 2018 On 8/10/2018 at 6:33 PM, AlpenglowMemories said: https://www.newstatesman.com/culture/books/2018/08/master-his-universe-warnings-jrr-tolkien-s-novels Dismissed as reactionary fantasy and even labelled fascist, Tolkien’s novels told of the corrupting influence of power. He deserves to be taken seriously, now more than ever. Interesting read, especially in a time when the Stormfront types are crawling out of the woodwork. (I remember finding their "Saruman is the Jewish Elite" thread a long time ago, yeesh) and LOTR seems a work either unfortunately embraced by far-right or sometimes even given to them by the left. As far as I can tell, people who enjoy LOTR come from all sort of different political persuasions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ran Posted August 14, 2018 Share Posted August 14, 2018 17 minutes ago, SeanF said: As far as I can tell, people who enjoy LOTR come from all sort of different political persuasions. I think when you look at the extreme ends, it's probably true that the far right has interpreted Tolkien as being much more in their favor than the far left has. Authors of the more outspokenly left variety, such as Michael Moorcock and China Meville, have both at various points espoused the view (with some considerable vigor, at times, and little nuance) that Tolkien's work is unabashedly politically regressive (Meville has since pulled back on his most intemperate remarks). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeanF Posted August 14, 2018 Share Posted August 14, 2018 1 hour ago, Ran said: I think when you look at the extreme ends, it's probably true that the far right has interpreted Tolkien as being much more in their favor than the far left has. Authors of the more outspokenly left variety, such as Michael Moorcock and China Meville, have both at various points espoused the view (with some considerable vigor, at times, and little nuance) that Tolkien's work is unabashedly politically regressive (Meville has since pulled back on his most intemperate remarks). When I read Michael Moorcock's essay about "Epic Pooh", I had the impression that he'd read a completely different version of the Lord of the Rings to mine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kleevedge Posted August 14, 2018 Share Posted August 14, 2018 I don't know if this has been mentioned here but Is GRRM throwing shade at Tolkein? Quote Most of the stories you hear about dragons are fodder for fools. Talking dragons, dragons hoarding gold and gems, dragons with four legs and bellies big as elephants, dragons riddling with sphinxes... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeanF Posted August 14, 2018 Share Posted August 14, 2018 On 7/20/2018 at 10:18 PM, HelenaExMachina said: I promised myself I wouldn’t buy it but damn if that isn’t gorgeous. Alan Lee is always quality but phew! I love both, especially the picture of Gondolin, which reminds me of the Alhambra. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ran Posted August 14, 2018 Share Posted August 14, 2018 2 hours ago, kleevedge said: I don't know if this has been mentioned here but Is GRRM throwing shade at Tolkein? Not at all. George loves Tolkien. It's just having fun with the tropes he chose not to use. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Marquis de Leech Posted August 24, 2018 Author Share Posted August 24, 2018 Tolkien and class: https://phuulishfellow.wordpress.com/2018/08/25/cracking-the-social-code-class-in-tolkiens-shire/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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